/fhg/ - For Honor General

>doesn't have any real confirms (I think his kick can land a light, maybe?)
>has no serious mix ups

You're right that Centurion is weak, but I feel like most characters are weak when played by a retard.

Did revenge get nerfed again? Seems like it's not working at all how it's supposed to for me.

Yeah sometimes. I play Dominion mostly, I do know I can't beat most Duelist since I don't have the mind for Mindgames. I'm a simple man.
Then every now and then I manage to hit parry on lights, though I can parry second lights at 80% rate. So Ad-Mortem Fucks them up.

Lawbros unite! Our time has come with this update!

I'm rep 3.
>heh, you probably don't even know what honor is
>le returd
Thanks Reddit Wardens. Now do you have any advice for how to play Cent? Everyone dodges the kick, parries or blocks the heavies, blocks the lights, and techs my gbs.
I got to rep 3 playing duels and now everyone isn't shit and there's nothing I can do with Cent.

>gee lawbringer why do you get 40 nipples?

>Join elimination
>All players parry all of my light attacks

Being Goki is suffering

that's why you feint into gb and make them afraid to parry. then ummm, you kill them by chip damage

It's Femwarden's fetish

>Enemy team has two cents that gank together
>My team keep bitching about it
>Tell them for the fifth fucking time to not attack them head on alone, keep with your own team
>Only for them to fuck off in their own direction and then bitch again

What am I to do

whiff one heavy, then trade on the second

Who would be Femkensei's boyfriend?

Drawfags are back?

>Who would be Femkensei's boyfriend?
Femshinobi?
I think Shugoki is a better fit for Nobushi and I don't see Femsei racemixing or having a twink boyfirend.

>I don't see Femsei racemixing or having a twink boyfirend
Femsei has no boyfriend. Her Love is pure to FemOrochi.

>Femsei
>Having a BF
>Implying she doesn't keep a harem

Kick is safe to use. Mix it in with dry dodges into GBs. This won't work against good players, but you can soft 50/50 people who dodge early. It's more effective the longer you wait to trigger the kick in the dodge. Practice triggering the kick at the last moment before it would register a GB instead.

If they ever block a heavy instead of parrying it, that lets you launch into your mix ups. Following a blocked heavy, you can 500ms Followup Heavy, Unblockable, Partially charged Heavy, Heavy GB Softfeint, Jab, Charged Jab, or hard cancel. Mix it up and try to be unpredictable. Everything you do can already be dry reacted to, so you don't want to add being predictable on to that.

Parry lights and get your free 60 damage. You can also get a free exhaust and 60 damage if you land a GB near a wall.

People don't know your range as well as you know your range. Whiffing a full charged heavy from a mile out is a safe move that lets you launch into a 500ms heavy. Mix it with partially charged heavies and GB softfeints to avoid getting parried. Cent has the interesting choice to partially charge any heavy he does to fuck with the parry timings. You should do that.

You pretty much never want to use the unblockable heavy. Using it is basically betting on your enemy panicking and trying to dodge out or something stupid.

I could probably think of more, but this is generally a good base. Centurion isn't good really at all outside of his confirms off parries and GBs, but you can make it work against most people.

>Law vs Law mirror

No thanks. Facing Lawbringer as Lawbringer is almost as bad as facing Conqueror as Lawbringer.

Take Lawbringers shove on block out of the game right now.

TAKE IT OUT

So is FiatLux worth using now? 25 Damage, no Stamina sounds like a good deal.
I'm having hard time deciding between it and Thick Blood, since latter pretty much fucks any dude with bleed. But it's only on PK and Nobu, but few others can gain it via feats.

>But it's only on PK and Nobu
And Valk
And Shinobi
And anyone with Sharpen Blades

Kinda.
Been dividing my time between exams and drawing
stuff on Veeky Forums and /mlp/.
Then someone started talking about Femsei's butt in the last thread.
Still got a bunch of unfinished stuff too; should probably finish it.
Lord knows I could use some anatomy practice.>Shugoki is a better fit for Nobushi
I like that one

Is guardspeed update live already?

I always used it over thick blood. The only time I ever get bled as warden was from poison blades during a gank while we were breaking so I just didn't see the point. While flux has alot of utility.
>can help you clear minions
>can help you isolate/escape ganks
>lets you nullify revenge
>can troll teammates with
>can kill people at regen health.
Maybe if you want to run negative debuff than I can see running thick blood as a pretty good option but I go balanced on my head

>Facing a Lawbringer who literally never parries and just does the block shove

Kill me.

I CANT I JUST CANT GET GOOD.
I play kensei all day trying to get good, I JUST DONT GET GOOD.
I try to feint they see right through it, i try to not feint i get parried, i get my lights parried, my gb counter gb'd, i parry and try to gb it whiffs.

What do i do man?

I hope you were playing an assassin and getting free deflects.

It's even more boring than conqueror

Play someone who's not Kensei.

Getting good with a shit class wont change the fact that the class is shit

I'm dreading the guard switch update, it's going to make him even worse of a turtle than Conq once people catch on.

yes

Hard feint heavy into light.
Helmsplitter into midair; if they fall for it, follow with an uninterruptable heavy.
Use your range.
If you get to knock someone into a wall, go for the unblockabele, otherwise you leave that shit alone.

I was a Raider. I won really hard since he was only Rep 2 and hardly knew what to do besides the block-shove mixup. He so rarely followed up with an actual light that I barely needed to worry about dodging.

Play Raider or something instead. Kensei isn't just bad, he's almost literally worthless.

Let's not go that far.

Played a few matches since the update and the two Lawbringers I fought were both enormous turtles who didn't even go for parries.

How do i know im at a level where im good enough tho? im only playing kensei to improve.

Can you consistently parry 500ms lights, dodge, and interrupt enemy attacks as needed? Then you're better than 90% of players.

Well shit, that's not good. Hopefully part of the turtle meta update is removing those "blocks give free GBs/bashes".

which attacks are 500ms again?

Stop playing kensei for one. Play a class that can atleast apply pressure like raider, lawbringer, or warden if your trying to learn fundamentals. Once you got the core mechanics and turtling down play an assassin to learn how to play aggressively by predicting when they'll attack and attack before them. I learned how to play useing law and zerk before they got buff.

are the kensei buffs as unimportant as they sound?
>swift strike
>get parried
>helm splitter
>get parried

>shinobi gets the kick nerf
>all the players learn how to abuse his multidodge glitch

great. and to make things even more enjoyable hes still next to impossible to punish while out of stamina

Kensei rewards good basics.
Learn your parries and your doges, whom you get to hit with your sidedash strike etc.

Once you get the defense down, you can start on mixups.

Holy shit Deathmist is gross. The original smoke effect screenshot looked dope. Now it's just... awful.

dev stream is up

You still have to work off random hits and chaining into thin air unlocked to do anything, yes

As raider you can just dodge every time since you are the only hero who can cgb while dodging

Helmsplitter is only really useful to catch cents winding up their bullshit and fool people into eating a side uninterruptable.
Swiftstrike can punish idiots throwing out kicks and headbutts, provided you time it right.

>take away one of LB's only tools
no, he doesn't need to be even worse.

>i parry and try to gb it whiffs.
That's just bad habit against certain matchups so just side heavy

You can does this with Ken to against shorter range opponents.

Not to mention he still has a mixup on double dodge becuase of his ranged gb

Kinda works if you're going for White Walker Viking shtick, but yeah, pretty underwhelming

Ken isn't as beginner friendly as say warlord for a number of reasons so try that till you get a better feel for the game.

docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wwr17AtTDFU3BZY_81axLVMKdHdNZuV0wGOb589VKgc/edit#gid=1037667970

Isnt complete with combos but it has the neutrals

>deathmist
fuck you give me the executions

Death Mist looks ok on executions, pretty shit overall.

It looks like a dry ice machine or vaping.

THIIICK

He needs a rework just as much raider pre buff

All vanguards were one trick ponies and that didn't stick to the wall barring wards sb being super useful in this current meta of the game.

>Facing a Rep 7 Kensei in duels
>First round, first match
>First move he does is a Helm Splitter
>Anticipating this
>Parry it easily because Centurion's guard change is 100ms now

Poor Kensei players. At least Kensei is better at ganking now, right?

agreed, just being able to cancel zone into stunning tap makes raider play like a new character
question is, what do you do with kensei? superior light attacks? 500ms side lights?

Fuck no he isn't, he's more of annoyance my team ganks then anything. Take that washing pole and captures a fucking base, fucking hate them hitting and wasting hit so the enemy gets revenge all the time.

Weebs have the most players? Poor Kangz

His feints count as combo parts.

I imagine a lot of people switched from kangz anticipating that it was weebs' turn to win

i love this idea, but I'd want it to come along with a buff to the damage on the second heavy in his HH- chain. currently the top heavy is only 20, same as a light

THE KNIGHTS MUST WIN, IT'S OUR TURN

Maybe just make his combo two steps across the board?
Speed up his lights.
All feinting is free?

AH FUCK

Lmao the stream is a cringefest

My only real suggestions for a Kensei rework are:

>Feints are free
>Feints count as combo parts
>Lights can be feinted
>Soft feinting is a part of his kit

Any one of these or all of them at once would make Kensei more viable, but still based on mind games. Something I would be interested in is a character who has flickering built into their kit and animations, as in they can start a swing one direction and change its direction during the swing.

Following the trends of the other two competitors all his tools should be readily available and not stuck to chaining his best pressure tool behind at least one light. All the other characters are variations in game play of the the vanilla three not the other way around.

...

Fucking skirmish orders.

I hate them.

>Game starts
>spam group up
>everyone still starts randomly running around the map
>and every fucking match half of my team disconnects

Then i end up myself in a centurion gangbang.

why cant any of you people make sensible balance suggestions without utterly destroying or completely over buffing a character

>real weapons
there's calimacil swords behind them lol

I don't see what's so outrageous about those suggestions.

>Samurai guy was in a dojo wearing robes
>Viking guy was in armor and shit
>Knight guy is wearing business casual and sunglasses

Either cod babies who think it's the same thing or power up crutch and wait for that damage up and get 1v4

Between valkyrie and lawbringer, which hero would you consider stronger/better/overpowered/underpowered/[insert adjective here].

Please give reasons for your decision.

The Patch that killed Valk.

And orochi.

On consoles? Valkyrie by a country mile. Having 500ms lights that chain into a sweep makes her a nightmare.

On PC? Lawbringer, probably. He gets good parry punishes and punishes from blocking attacks. Valk's follow up lights are 600ms, and thus parry bait.

They removed flicker already? Wow.
Also doesn't matter, Orochi is still best Bot Killer.

Ban should be 30 minutes not ten, 4 games in a row ive been dc'd from because of quitters aaaaaaahhhhhh

Game plans are different for both.

Valk has a lot of offensive tools, law defensive

So you're saying they're equal?

>feints dont cost stamina, leads to combo finishers, everything can be feinted, even lights, and cancelled into GB

yeah sounds good. easpecially for a character with a 40 mile long sword that does a minimum of 20 damage per hit

This game is unironically more dead than Dark Souls, how is this possible?

I said one or all, not necessarily all.

considering how thoroughly valk can BTFO law, i'd have to say valk is better. she has guard on dodge as well as dodge attacks that chain into other things

if you think of valk like conq but far more versatile instead of like a slow assassin as most of her players do, she becomes a lot better

this fucking stream..... what the fuck....