Heroes of the Storm General - /hotsg/

Both of his ultimates are pretty much garbage and ignorable. They're probably better at pushing towers than winning fights.

Xul design document:

"He pushes lanes"

Skeletons can fuck up some people's day in a fight, but BRAAAP nova is literally only good if they have zero supports.

Skeletons need armor against AoE damage or to focus the target you're hitting or something because those suckers are dead before I even cast them.

>next hero is #69
which meme we getting next bois

How do you build him? improving the skeletons?

Maiev

Do people ever get banned for losing on purpose? Like all leaving lanes before lvl 2?

Names Jnukrat

Some fatass or otherwise ugly hero.

Why are people just so fucking bad in QM, 70% of the time the games are lost because your teammates are incapable of looking at the minimap and wander off on their own/ignore pings for help or to retreat

I know it's QM but jesus fucking christ, shitters in every multiplayer game I play bringing me down

Oh, are you excited for your mom to finally be in HotS?

Always take mage ult and bone spear, unless A) Their team has no healer B) They have a big healer like Uther or Morales that you need the backline damage for, in which case build for more Q talents. Other than that, skeleton talents synergize with his kit and playstyle so they are fine.

Backlash most of the time, Shade against heavy AA.

To chicken shit to play rank/unrank I see
It's all on you faggot. I play QM for fun and win most matches but I play as a team and don't freak when players need help/are learning if I want a better chance and team play I'll play with my irl friends or rank.

If only bone spear wasn't so late. Xul might actually be decent if it was at like 13.

QM is for trying out builds and having fun. I don't know why people take QM seriously at all, especially if you're solo queuing. If you're solo queuing, it's basically fucking Free-for-all, really. Stop taking the game so fucking seriously. That's what ranked is for.

Fuck you shitface, I don't own 14 heroes yet or otherwise I'd be complaining about incompetence in draft/ranked instead

Me and my friends win most of our QM games while dicking, I just want a tolerable mode where I can solo without having teammates 2-3x my level doing retarded shit

Stop playing a team game if you aren't playing to win.

See QM is a wildcard mode, complaining about it is worthless

leoric model and in game portrait are some the best in the whole game, he looks even better next to arthas

Okay so legitimately, honestly, how do I be a good Nova
I want to get her to 5 since she's free and I have Novazon without being total ass

>good
>nova
Jokes aside just land your shit and don't die. Bully squishies and be opportunistic, don't engage on full HP Diablos or Alaraks and expect to win, wait for them to get low and pick them off as they are leaving and defenseless. When there's a fight going down, don't flank as Nova because you're a free kill, poke from the backline of your own team where it's safe, then go for the flank when the low HPs start to retreat them clean em up.

Never take Triple Tickle never ever and take One in the Chamber, get good at weaving autos and abilities for max burst, something like Clone-Auto-W-Auto-Q-Auto is a turn of damage.

In unranked dragon shire, we were having an endless fight over each shire up to level 12. Then suddenly our sole hero defending top decided to go down and do merc camp alone as dehaka. Enemy team got dragon, destroyed midlane gate and 2 towers. Fast forward to when enemy is 20 and we're a level behind, enemy took dragon cuz we got wiped, they pushed mid again, and gg.

Dehaka explained that it was to apply pressure to the enemy team, and endlessly fighting for shires were pointless.

As a noob who has 7/14 level 5 heroes, I am a bit puzzled by this. Perpetually denying the enemy team a dragon is more helpful than a few mercs, is it not?

Dehaka also said I was shit at defending from 1st dragon, but I was going through all my abilities over and over to try to take them down faster, only getting help from teammates by the time when dragon was 1/2 hp.

Maybe he meant defending the actual summon part? If you hit them when they channel the shrine it interupts, generally speaking you don't want them to summon at all and "def mid" means "poke them and don't let them get the dragon until people can arrive or take shrines".

Why the fuck is this game so fucking laggy?
I have literally 0 problems running new games in high/max settings and this shit has some weird as fuck mini-freezes even in the fucking lobby

Where the fuck is Big Dick Tychus?!

Nah, no one was mid at the time, and I literally seen dehaka just go down to solo merc out of the blue.

>I play as a team and don't freak when players need help/are learning
People don't need help, and aren't learning.
They don't read chat, they don't look at ping.

I tried for a while to be nice to people, despite myself being new.... But holy shit, this kind of retardation is what you find at institutions.

In our hearts.

sc2 engine.

If your connection is even remotely spotty then you can't play this game. Everything is server side and processor based, your GPU cannot carry your FPS or cut down on stutters, you need a good CPU and internet connection.

Bets

Why the fuck was no one mid?

>No Blinds or Heals against Butcher

Red.

>low level specialists
>even more low level players on red team
>BHB
blue should smash them if you do the camps and coins

There was a person mid, just hanging around gate and didn't bother to poke the enemies trying to activate dragon though

Why are the load times so long? What is it even loading?

Can I add you guys so you can help me get better?

/join Veeky Forums)

/join Veeky Forums in chat, people there will play with you

Red

Server/client side need to sync.
The person that takes the longest to load his the shittiest machine/connection.

Okay

That's fucking sad. You don't even know Unrank doesn't need the 14 Heroes but oh are you so quick to shit on others when you are likely the worse in the room.

It's worth noting that the snipemaster buff makes snipe build decent if you're fighting teams or on maps where they all bundle up.
At 16 it's something like ~1,000 damage to one target and 500 to everything else in a decent AoE every 3 seconds.
It ups your burst significantly but it also makes it so you are completely useless if you miss one snipe.

One in the chamber is for if you can afford to get off the combo on a fleeing foe, but gets punished if the enemy team moves in a deathball at all.

Also nova's bribe talent is strong on Hanamura and Diablo maps.

You still need 14 for unranked, just they don't have to be 5.
Otherwise it would be possible for you to have no legal choices.

Good to know

>you so quick to shit on others when you are likely the worse in the room.

I can safely say I'm not the "worse" in the room when I have the highest KDA on my team, doing camps, running to objectives, and not getting caught out of position while my team is doing the exact opposite. Here's your (You) faggot, enjoy it

>muh stats
oh here we go

How about a Warlock that isn't a Shotgun Mage?

When is the Innkeeper?

This user was correct, we just camp fucked them and late game they couldn't handle the specialist push

I hope all the invisible characters abusing the contested bug gets permanent bans.

>muh team
>muh stats
>muh kda

Every time.

>both teams reached 20
>butcher lost
Huh.

He went for a hamstring build, didn't take meat quest at level one
He was really bad

Since his game is a cover shooter his trait is a meter that you can sped to become invincible and unrevealable while next to a wall. Also he's a guerrilla warrior so his talents help him become more slippery or deal extra damage after disappearing from enemy sight.

One of his skills should be the grav-o-bomb and it'd deal twice as much damage against any armored target or slide around walls or something.

Maybe a talent that causes dead heroes to drop potions, he can save up a couple at a time and gets one every time he comes back to base.

Another skill can be a remote wasp hive that starts invisible but when an enemy player gets close it continually spawns wasps until they destroy it.

Instead of having a mount he can run at 120% speed as long as he hasn't been hit or attacked recently. Activating it is a jump with a short channel that lets him cross terrain.

I don't know about ultimates. Maybe you get the levitator and you can use it on any player to lock their movement for 3 seconds but make them untargettable? Let your squishy mage unleash their spells, shoot down at enemies from on high, or stop the enemy Illidan from doing anything once he dives into your team.

what bug

Khadgar.

It's not a bug. Valeera and Nova can stand in the Merc camp and contest the payload, just AOE the camp.

You can stand still somewhere around the payload, and get contested. The other team have to throw around AoE in hopes they hit you.

This game is really confusing, because I tried to do that with invisible characters, to stand still so nobody would see me. But for me it didn't work, this chromie would just shoot at me across half the map.

Oh, that's unfortunate.

My money would've easily been on Red due to lack of potential to shut down Butcher, but he was level 70 which made things a bit off a toss-up.

Do they actually ban people in this game, though?

It's a bug, if you're invisible you shouldn't be able to contest.
I really hope everyone who ever used it, even once, lose their accounts.

"Invis" heroes aren't actually invisible in this game. They have like Halo 2 style Camo and shimmer and sparkle with the light and distort when they move. With keen eyes or the right talents/heroes, stealthies are not hidden.

What, halting capture progress on stuff like the shrines in dragon shire? Could've sworn that was always a thing.

ye seems like it'll eventually get changed

>low mmr
nobody can see them
>mid-high mmr
might as well not have a passive because everybody can see you

When they are sitting still they are really fucking hard to see though.

IF I CANT DEAL WITH IT THEN ITS A BUG!

How does one fight samuro? Don't see him too much aside from brawl but damn is he annoying whenever he shows up. Can you really pick out clones from the actual samuro aside from sheer luck?

Sure, just look at how they're moving. Reveals also work (Malf W, Scouting Drone, Lunara level 1 talent).

Otherwise just win team fights because more often than not he's useless in them. Check your mercs camps, too, because he'll usually go for invades.

It's not a bug, cloak isn't invisible. You can see them if you look. You're too new so this is a foreign concept to you, there is no bug here only inexperience.

Cloak heroes can also disrupt channel objectives like Sky Temple Shrines, Braxis beracons, Dragon Shrines points, merc camps, etc.

Like I said, when you play more you'll start to get it. The issue on Hanamura is that they can contest the Payload by the Health Pack camps from over the wall where the Merc stands, so I've watched Azmodans and Kael'thas burn entirely through their mana bars nuking the completely wrong spots for minutes because they were simply new players and didn't get that. Again, not a bug but simply inexperience. You get over it with time.

pic related

you're this stupid

AOE moves, reveals, slows, DOTs are his bane. DOTs carry through even if he splits or swaps (Illusion Master) with an illusion and completely fuck his day. Don't ever try to duel him, just outrange him and always be diligent looking for his shimmer and don't let him wail into you.

Bane?

>DOTs carry through even if he splits or swaps
Do they? I remember hearing stuff about mirror image acting as a cleanse for things like pulse grenade and the like.

>Like I said, when you play more you'll start to get it.
It literally requires looking for a few pixels that look off. It's not about actually seeing them it's about knowing where the most likely spots are.

Oh dear... You should let your handler know that you stumbled out of the safe sites, honey.

Are you wearing your helmet?

>"I'm here to help!"
I wish we could have Janna back in WoW

>shit tier
quests that don't change the way you play, are impossible to complete or rely on dumb luck

>god tier
quests that change the way you play

>nightmare tier
quests that change the way your opponents play

Would you mind giving an example of each category?

she's gone, user.
>she relaxed around green, so now she's mean.

user who asked about Nova earlier
Literally what fucking purpose does her clone serve
Only idiots fall for it, it doesnt do any damage, you cant command it, and it isnt even good at blocking.
Also I just fought a team where 4 people could spot me and I basically could never safely engage any time ever. Shit sucks

>It's not a bug, cloak isn't invisible.
It's invisible if you stand still, quite obviously.

No camps near by, and didn't even stand in grass.

alarak's lvl 1
azmodan's q talent
kt's convection

Butcher and his trait/quest sort of reminds me of carries in League.

Like, set him back early and he'll be useless until late, which I think is nice. Wish you could individually fuck more Heroes over, like Butch/Zeebo.

Ye, these are great. Wish TFB was a little bit more solo queue viable, though.

Clone can block a SS, and it's a good scouting tool to face check bushes for you

Which Uther skin is better, Sulfuron or Judgement?

>in before somebody says "medic"

>It's invisible if you stand still, quite obviously.
If they are in an area with a very consistent pattern in the texture you can make out very faint distortions.

Lumberjack.

>got E.T.C as an announcer in a box from 2.0 rewards
>Finally decide to use him
>Not bad
Who does everyone use??

Yes it's Transparent. For exploiting.
Would it be better to leave it white?

Anub and D.Va, love how angry D.Va says 'UNSTOPPABLE!'.

I mostly use the defaults because I like the different map themes.

That said, I have a hard-on for the WarCraft 3, so I use the Arthas announcer with my Prince Arthas skin.

I'd use Arcturus Mengsk if they'd just put him in the game.