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maiev a shit

Is it normal that it placed me so high after placements? Just hit 14 required heroes today. Or is diamond not that high in this game?

forgot pic

took your advice, got cursed hollow
>Curse? What curse? I make my own minion wave.

MMR is fucked so you can abuse new accounts to get placed into Diamond, because they assume all players play like 800 games of QM before trying ranked.

Should I be using Rag more as a specialist than an assassin, he got gutted and I feel he's better at pushing/providing stun/ speed boost than actually being an assassin? Or am I just wood, league, like I'm bad but am I THAT bad

more titty monsters soon!

lune when

this is a casual game, most of the playerbase is very bad
diamond is still pretty high though
and yes that comma was grammatically incorrect

non comma autism edition

STOP IT

not to worry if you suck you will sink down to even shitter ranks the more games you play

Where the FUCK is Maiev????

where are the hot pictures of tyrande?

He's kind of both. His presence in a team fight is good but not OP like before so you need to choose your battles wisely.

I think Lava Wave might actually be his good heroic again since the nerf to Smash, so use your discretion on different maps and weigh your options before choosing.

>that jittery movement enemies do when they are trying to get away but someone is blocking them

Gets me every time.
You can feel the desperation.

,no

humm
Is it worth to try and get master? I likely won't bother playing hots too often and I don't want to deal with decay.

Where the FUCK is Kel'Thuzad????

is sylvanas a good pick for ranked games?

>Maiev
>Kel'Thuzad
who?

Where the FUCK is Moira????

Yes but not always.
In low level rank she's a nightmare because noobs can't into map awareness and her splitpushing gets a lot of value. In higher rank she's an objective enabler that makes the summonable map objective wins you get far more powerful because towers can't damage them while Sylvanas is around.

I doubt I've gotten that shit at ASSFAGGOTS. I was mostly wondering if it is a good start. Perhaps this game is better for getting into masters, in league I hit brick wall in d1.

Well there's like any rank it doesn't matter much except for changing match quality. If you don't enjoy the base game then climbing is meaningless.

REEEEEEEEE

das rite
we need another diverse overwatch character
WHERE THE FUCK IS WIDOWMAKER

>lvl 20 talent
>Spawns kitten

SAY IT WITH ME

NEVER
FUCKING
EVER

>people bitching about maiev and kel 'thuzad
>not even posting their ability ideas

post it already or forever end your shitposting

Widowmaker is one of the few Overwatch heroes who will literally be never ever because of extreme kit overlap with already existing heroes.

She'll just have a much faster owl, that is one hit kill if hit from over 1 screen away, with a 10 second cool down. Her kit will also contain her trusty hook that lets her essentially teleport 1 screen distance, and a trap that deals 5% hp every second for 10 seconds. Lets not forget her ultimate, which will reveal all enemies on the map.

>kitten has 1hp
>when killed Kel goes into autistic fit giving him unimaginable powers
>REEEEE GET OUT OF MY NECROPOLIS INTERLOPERS REEEEE

>lvl 20
>spawn cat

I imagine they havent done KT yet because of the fear of dissapointing
I mean, what do you even make him, a burst mage with frost nova and d&d? or a summon specialist with minions of the cold dark, obey the call of kelthuzad? do you make him have a living form and a lich form or just one
how do you express his whole involvement in the plague and malganis
it all needs to be there

Kel'thuzad will likely be like his WC3 rendition so basically a support/specialist.

>ultimate reveal all enemies on the map
naw thats gonn be her E, ultimate n1 gives her +500% attack speed and +200% attack range
ultimate n2 makes everyone revealed by her E suffer 100% of their missing health as damage
think again sweety

I'd say Lich with
Q - frost nova
W - ???
E - undead summon
R - Death&Decay / Guardians of Icecrown

Javalin Amazon is entirely different from bow amazon, so no. Widowmaker has exactly the skills she has in Overwatch and nothing more, kind of hard to justify two "long range burst sniper" heroes.

in what fucking way is the lich a support/specialist
did you even play warcraft 3

>take lich from dota2
>put him in hots

there ya go

>armor
>zone control with nova and d&d
>not specialist

>frost armor
>dark ritual
>death and decay does 4% of base hp in damage to all units and structures
>slows with low damage
???

>useless armor that no one used
>high damage aoe nuke
>kill a unit to regenerate mana and continue spamming your overpowered nuke
he is as much a specialist as kaelthas or guldan
that is not at all

I'm thinking of using a hybrid W/E build where I harass with W and use E to either initiate on tank or to give a Squishy a speed boost to get out of trouble, my talent build would be
2
2
2
Map specific, smaller more compact maps I can use smash and hello during team fight, bigger more push heavy maps use wave for clear
1,3 depending on how the games progressing
1,2 again game/team dependent
And 20 you can upgrade your ults or grab better trait power again team dependent

I like this idea. Make him like Khara were he can build eitheir way.

Frost Armor - WC3
Trait - Death Pact - Minion deaths give stacks, use stacks to heal

R - Undead Thrall - teleport inside an enemy hero, if they die within 3 seconds, KelThuzad gains control and they are fully healed, last 15 seconds, then the enemy hero explodes applying an aoe poisenreleasing KelThuzad

Also I'd like a heal that works by spawning a "hammerang" speed projectile from an enemy, it deals damage and heals, gaining heal per enemy hit.

> thinking no one used frost armor.
Someone didn't win a WCG I see

>Q: point and click damage whose slow will absolutely be nerfed before being added to hots
>W: safeguard
>E: definitely removed, mana isn't a meaningful resource in hots and denies dont exist
>R: ball lightning

I mean they took Samuro's most useless ability Mirror Image and made it integral to his base kit, so don't take how the heroes ended up being played to how they would translate them over.

Even if they took stuff from his boss fight in Naxx he'd still be a specialist of some sort or fashion.

>Frost Armor - WC3
>Trait - Death Pact - Minion deaths give stacks, use stacks to heal

>R - Undead Thrall - teleport inside an enemy hero, if they die within 3 seconds, KelThuzad gains control and they are fully healed, last 15 seconds, then the enemy hero explodes applying an aoe poisenreleasing KelThuzad
is this bait?
I refuse to believe anyone can have ideas this bad

you want to make a support
that can only give 2-10 armor with a slow, and a relatively long cd
why would anyone pick him

more like downsmaker hah, gotteem

to be Kel'Thu-fucking-zad obviously

I love Lili not because of her casual lewdness or her attractiveness, but because her youthful innocence and optimism reminds me of better days when I had a similar outlook on life

Your mom didn't get an abortion, so I mean there's that idea.

>casual lewdness
kill
you're
self

Obviously frost armor would grant 25% armor and apply a debuff to attackers or something in HoTS.

Add something like Talent: Hit Frost Armor Key again to explode it into a small aoe root.

how do I get out of elo hell

I'm stuck in gold 5, I keep getting at least one litteral dead weight on my team, either an AFK, a guy who stays in his lane all game, or a dude who picks a shitty heroes/hero he can't play, people who feed, my last game had a greymane with 10 deaths by minute 16, I need help.
I finished last seasons at promotion to plat from gold but I lost 8 out of 10 of my placements to this bullshit and I don't know what to do at this point.

>long duration 25 armor
shit combine this guy with varian's ironforge banner and any high-armor warrior and you get a permanently invincible asshole

or better yet do a cho'gall with permanent 50 armor and temporary 70 armor under the banner

get good enough to carry your shitty gold teammates to victory against your shitty gold opponents

more often than not my teammates are silver 1-2 against gold 4, and I don't think it's possible to carry when you have a 4 levels deficit because the autists on your team decided tower diving was the key to all this

But that would mean he'd have to play as if he were at least a platinum player.

Has anyone ever pulled something larger than 7 day stimpack in a loot chest?

Has anyone ever bought the 1 year stimpack?

The one year goes on sale around Blizzcon and is a hella good deal then. Otherwise don't bother.

in my perfect world KT would have a two-forms mechanic similar to dva or graymane
he would spawn as a necromancer, with an aoe "plague" nuke with low damage, long range, long cd and a slow/movementspeed reduction
then a "mend corpse" for his W, a low cd, small heal, that heals more if the target is hit/ in combat
then a summon ability for his E, maybe summon 2 skeletons and send them down the lane, something im not sure
his trait would be something like
"when you die, your next respawn is reduced by 25% and you instead revive as a lich"
as a lich all of his abilities would be similar, but altered, more suited towards dealing damage
his Q would be long cooldown, very high damage with a small slow (frost nova)
his W would turn into frost armor, giving a small amount of armor (maybe 10 baseline 15-20 with talents?) and a slow on attacks
his E would be dark ritual, dealing a small amount of damage to an ally hero to restore kts mana (this damage wouldnt be able to kill them only reduce them to 1hp)
for his ultimates I think they should always be
death and decay, an aoe anti tank zoning tool that also damages buildings
and maybe a summon 2 strong units, abominations in necromancer form with a slow and high hp and nerubians with high damage in lich form
they should really go big with kt, hes like the most expected hero since beta

Stupid mechanic. I don't want to play as a cultist, I want to play Kel'thuzad.

How come nobody takes Show of Force on Alarak? Its damage scales with levels so it adds more damage than a 2/3rds completed Q quest from level 7+, plus the damage bonus is available immediately instead of requiring you to complete a quest. Only downside is that you don't get the bonus damage if you just used lightning to poke and don't have it available for your combo.

He started off as the baddest, strongest cultist user, and he does a significant lot as one. It should be represented in his kit

>playing alarak
>not kerrigan

>anime poster
>kerrigan

pottery

>not posting an argument

It seems to me Cassia is worth having simply for the fact that like no other assassins have blinds.

They envisioned something similar with Ragnaros where you would summon in Ragnaros as Majordomo Executus as like an Ultimate ability, but it felt stupid because the majority of the game you weren't playing the guy you picked.

They also tried Ragnaros as a core replacement hero and you controlled a little Son of Flame elemental but that also felt dumb because you only every saw Rag when you were losing which was lame.

Ultimately whatever kit he has will not make him the "afterthought" of his design. "Going big" doesn't mean remove the guy you chose to play for over half the match, it means making the guy you picked fun to play and flavorful to his character, which isn't two forms but just Kel'thuzad the lich.

alarak is more anime than kerrigan though

>unironically playing no ult hero

user
youre not playing as random cultist n° 46 trying to summon kelthuzad
youre playing as him
having two forms WOULD be the most flavorful

Did they do something to electric volleyball?

not having two forms and a revive/ change after death mechanic would be the same as having graymane with just a worgen form
sure it wouldnt break the character but it subtracts a lot

Anub rework when

Diamond 3 is highest you can get. QM and HL have seperate MMRs but it uses your QM MMR to start you off in HL and if you win a couple of your first placement matches and had a decent QM MMR you should be getting diamond

What is it with dotafags and being completely disingenuous to defend their game?
>one spell doesn't use 2/3 of your mana
>you actually regen mana at a slow but significant rate
>"literally a meaningless resource"
Also, snowballing bloodstone users would like a word with you.

So winning 70% of QM helped I guess

S1/S2 LoL did it right, you could clear 3-4 waves with your spells if you wanted to and that was about right restriction.

>70%
QM is forced 50 friend. I think unranked is too.

>Also, snowballing bloodstone users would like a word with you.
sacrifice would also be a useless ability on a lich who for some reason went bloodstone. he would have no reason to cast it.

I mean my winrate dropped a little by now but you are spewing bullshit. What forced 50? Where?

its forced in the meaning that after winning more than 50% you'll start to get teams with significant less mmr than your enemy
You can still win those games, specially if you have a friend to queue with and carry games
I have 62% winrate in qm and he has 75% (helps that hes lvl 100 and 90% of his games are played with me)

>Barely 100 games
Give it time hombre, give it time

>186
>barely 100
>implying
>moving goalposts

>all type
That includes stupid shit like AI and brawl, change to quick match.

if a matchmaking system is working properly it will try to put you against evenly-skilled opponents, aka ones you have a 50% chance to beat

retards who think they are much higher skill than they actually are see their 50% winrate and think "wait but i'm actually a videogames god, im way better than my opponents, i must be losing all these games because of bad teammates", and then usually from there they jump to some kind of jewish conspiracy to load their team with bad players in order to keep their winrate down

>186
Damned smurfs i swear

>less than 500 games
>durrrrr da gaem es facil i havv 60% winrate

>genji is picked

youtube.com/watch?v=E1wcuoxs4mU

Still not that many games

>conspiracy to load their team with bad players in order to keep their winrate down
>implying that isn't exactly how they keep your winrate at 50

the people who spread this myth tend to be arrogant or bad at self-reflection
they notice their terrible bronze teammates playing like bronzies but they somehow fail to notice or purposefully ignore the fact that they are playing just as badly

It is my main account, I just played league before at hit ceiling at d1 then got bored of it.

>durrrrr da gaem es facil i havv 60% winrate
I have completely no idea what are you trying to imply here friend, would you try using english this time?

here is translation to english for u senpai
>durr the game is easy i have 60% winrate