>bought 2016 civic only a month ago >have loved it every day I drove it >went to the mazda dealership in my free time before work for the lols >already know how new corollas drive, drives exactly like my old 2011 >test drive a mazda3 >now I'm having second thoughts about my civic I was so sure of myself, Toyota or Honda, Corolla or Civic, pick which I preferred because they're the two most reliable powertrains on the market.
But fuck, that mazda drove almost like what I'd consider a "driver's car" at the base model. The cvt transmission wasn't as enthusiastic at the civic's, but the drive, just the general point a - point b, sit back and relax drive is what sunk me in. I could just picture myself laid back in the seat on the interstate for 4 hours while being engaged enough to stay awake, but comfortable enough not to hate myself.
I know this sounds like a real fucking shill thread, but stick with me. The only consolation I have right now is the fact that I still enjoy my civic a lot, and the fact that I KNOW for a fact the civic has iron-clad reliability and has for the past decade. The Mazda's reliability isn't as well established, which is sort of what's keeping me from getting buyer's regret.
I wish I knew about it sooner I guess. I know some people don't like it, but for automatic driving in a point a - point b grocery getting, it's really more surprisingly comfortable and enjoyable than I thought it would be. The temperature and fan controls are right there, boom, you're comfortable, no flipping switches or using infotainment systems to get there, knobs are available just the way I like. Turn and boom, fucking heat is going. Getting too hot? Boom, turn a knob, AC is going on low. Instantly played music from my android as well.
Steering wheel was a bit busy, but fuck, I could have gotten used to it.
Noah Diaz
cool story bro
Colton Thompson
Maybe you mistook and thought this was your blog?
Eli Hernandez
Get an aftermarket rear sway bar
Brody Butler
>The cvt transmission wasn't as enthusiastic at the civic's Funny since the mazda3 has a 6 speed auto and not cvt
Camden Murphy
>buying a modern honda, expecting a cheap enthusiast car lmao u played urself, Mazda is what Honda once was Honda is literally just Toyota now >Civic >iron clad reliability >new small displacement tarbo >new CVT >new platform >matsuda has been producing the current 3 basically since it became independent from Ferd
ya dun goufed
Thomas Perez
shouldve gotten a 2018 C300 with 0-60 in 5.8 seconds, class leading interior, and RWD.
dumb boy
Wyatt Johnson
But muh aftermarket.
Evan Bailey
not OP but damn, it was no joke my pipe dream to get my parents one of those >then I didn't graduate uni in time and fell into a pit of NEETness and depression >and then my parents are probably gonna get divorced anyways >and they don't even like cars that much and don't trust """"German Engineering"""" feels bad man
Ian Martinez
>shouldve gotten a 2018 C300 >should've gotten a >40k car gee user idk
Josiah White
"In time"
In time for what u fagget? Suicide? All is still not lost
Benjamin Ward
poor doggo =(
Isaiah Murphy
I have a 2014 Mazda3 and some days I wish the suspension was a little softer and every day I wish the cabin was a lot quieter, but it is a nice drive. Sometimes I wanna test drive a new civic, but I don't want a car with a CVT in it and i'm too lazy to drive a manual.
Try to be happy with your civic. It's a nice car. Now if you bought a corolla, i'd just feel sorry for you.
Easton Thomas
They look like good cars. I drive a Focus SE with hopefully another 6-10 years in it, but if I were to consider another car, a Mazda3 would be one of the first I try. Hoping the Speed line comes back before I need a new car, though.
Noah Hernandez
>DISCUSSING CARS ON Veeky Forums?? NOT ON MY WATCH! let the man talk about cars, just because he's talking from his own experience rather than a graph comparing a corvette to a gtr doesnt mean it's forbidden fuck off to your socal general or something
Luis Gomez
They're hella loud, keep your civic and wait until 2020 to see future lineups of civics, mazdas, corollas, etc. Maybe they'll fix the horrible noise reduction.
Kayden Cooper
Weird, when I tried out a 3 before getting my miat, I barely noticed any noise at all. Then again I'm used to loud cars. The miat is quieter than my last one.
Jace Wood
I daily a 06 mazda3, and it's comfy but not super comfy. Shit ton of wheel hop because the rear motor mounts are fucked on every mazda3 model ever. If you're looking for a cheap, fun to drive, reliable, aesthetic car mazda3 is your best bet
Blake Russell
Mazda has piss poor build quality. Hope you have the turbo civic not the weak ass 2.0L
Leo Gonzalez
Maybe back when it was partnered with ford, but it's fine now
Grayson Thompson
If it makes you feel any better OP, my 2014 3 has 85,000 miles and has never had a problem of any kind.
Dominic Lee
What's wrong with corolla? I'm looking between getting a accent, polp(not really), civic, corolla or Mazda 3, generally any sedan that doesn't look like shit and is relatively new, up from 2010. All used. What's better for cheap maintenance and reliability? (Should I start my own thread?) My budget is $11000
Jordan Davis
My sister hated driving, then when shopping for a new car she ultimately chose the Mazda 3 over the Civic. Now she likes driving
Jace Bailey
Cheap and reliable? Sure get a corolla. It's probably the best in that regard.
I'm just not down with the torsion beam and the drum brakes and 4-speed auto used before 2017 and the underpowered engine.
But it will last forever.
Elijah Reyes
You can get a gen3 Mazda3 for that much, do it faggot.
Aaron Bailey
I honestly think the coupe version is one of the most beautiful things
Colton Williams
Past decade? It's not 2000 anymore, the civic has been unstoppable for about 25-30 years now
Jacob Bennett
Also idk about new ones but 2000-2006 Mazda's are hella reliable
Xavier Sanchez
should've just bought a civic for 3k faggot.
Anthony Allen
God I wish this electric handbrake meme would end one day. Good thing my 2014 Mazda 3 still has a "normal" one.
>The cvt transmission wasn't as enthusiastic at the civic's >cvt >enthusiastic Do you come frome an alternate reality ? What's so great about CVT ? Torque converters are pretty fast and efficient nowadays. And the Mazda 3 doesn't have a CVT.
Gavin Adams
I owned a mazda 3 Its nothing special at all, especially after owning an S14, driving MR2s, WRXs, and Miatas. Its literally just another sedan, like your civic or a a corolla.
Benjamin Morales
Maybe he didn't press the Sport button. Or is that only in the 6?
Justin Garcia
as someone who is a huge snek fan that hates the GT-R, Motortrend is full of dumb kike reviewers and their course is awful for actually showing track prowess of a car
Brandon Hall
Whenever I read reviews about the Mazda 3, it's like the perfect drivers car.
Whenever I read people talk about the Mazda 3 it's "meh... it's alright. Kind of noisy. It turns sorta well." This coupled with the fact that I see it drive as just a normal commuter car makes me feel like it's a bit overrated. Not too much of an aftermarket either... I've seen some tunes and orangevirus is working on a turbo.
Eli Turner
Mazda never cared about NVH.
Elijah Johnson
I know someone with a Mazda and he regrets ever buying it. It breaks almost every year needing thousands in parts for repair. He's sick of it.
Nathaniel Sanders
The MX-5 is the perfect driver's car. The 3 is like the Civic just before Honda went to shit. A nice commuter car with an interior that punches above its price range and a reasonable amount of driver involvement. It's definitely not a godmacheen like a 3rd-gen Civic or Accord.
Jose Anderson
>fwd
Kevin Rivera
>The MX-5 is the perfect driver's car Only if you like the sweet serenic sound of sitting in a 1980s fighter jet while on your daily commute.
Julian Hill
Did you grow up in an anechoic chamber or something?
Logan Lee
If you did any research into the the Civic's competition, you would've known that many say the Mazda 3 is a good contender. Only real downside compared to the rest is that it's a little under powered and that's because Mazda has been obsessed with perfecting their skyactiv tech. They have supposedly perfected HCCI and I'm pretty sure they're unveiling the new Mazda 3 along with their RX-9 concept.
Evan Perry
at the tokyo motor show later in october
Benjamin Price
he's not kidding. in a miata you're sitting at 4500 rpm while going 80 mph
And last week as I was backing out I felt a large bump over my rear and front tires and thought I backed out over a large rock or some small creature
>mfw it was fucking twig
Jason Cruz
The regular handbrake took up so much room in the interior, I don't miss it one bit in my 2018
John Clark
The face lifted ones have much better NVH
Kevin Phillips
It's fine on a small car like the 3 ya dumbo. But the 6, too large for FWD imo.
Owen Richardson
They haven't quite perfected HCCI. Skyactiv-X is semi-HCCI that uses a tiny supercharger and a little spark to ignite the mixture at compression ratios just below what you'd need for true HCCI. It's clever because it gets around the issue of making HCCI engines work properly with every variation of fuel quality, altitude, humidity, temperature, etc. I have a ND. Even with the trunk stripped out, the noise isn't bad at all, not even close to my old S2000, let alone a fucking jet engine.
Grayson Carter
>The MX-5 is the perfect driver's car.
More expensive, more insurance, less utility/safety/trunk space, etc. It's literally used for going to and from work, but for traveling with luggage, running errands, etc. it's less than ideal.
Best put, a Miata is not an optimal car for someone who's only going to own one car. It's for people who have multiple vehicles in their homes. A Mazda3, civic, or older corolla would work better for a single vehicle bachelor.
Leo Bell
Yeah, that's why it's the perfect driver's car. Any car than needs to be bigger and has to pull off daily duty responsibilities will be bigger and would compromise the driving experience
Landon Lopez
Kind of related: I've been looking for a new car, and had boiled my choice down to a Skoda Octavia 1.8 TSI HB or Mazda 3 Skyactive G (same price for both). I then had a look at both cars at the sellers. The Mazda was nice, but I felt the legspace was a bit lagging as a passenger. Then I tried the Skoda and there was miles for legspace both as a driver and passenger, plus the trunk was larger. Both cars are the same length, so how the fuck Skoda managed that beats me.
Nathaniel Morris
What the hell do you think a "driver's car" is? It's a car that's focused on the experience of driving, without compromising that experience for obsolete notions of practicality. Now that you can get anything delivered to you for free or a nominal fee, there's zero reason to have a hatchback or CUV or whatever appliance that people who've given up on enjoying life drive.
Elijah Wilson
Also, the Skoda feels a lot more quiet compared to the Mazda, so I'm inclined to pull the trigger with the Octavia.
Ian Cooper
Trade it in on a new Si you dumb cunt
New Mazda’s are great, but the new civic is far more advanced. You just bought the lethargic faggit edition, while pretty much every Mazda comes in “slow car fun, tune.
Jaxon Ross
At least you can put a few simple mods into the civic and not have the engine explode.
Dylan Clark
It's not like the Si would cost more, or get worse mileage, or need premium, or have higher insurance rates Nope, none of that matters when you can have a "sporty" Civic
Matthew Hughes
>Octavia
Crown Victoria of Europe.
Police and old people drive those.
Bentley Rivera
>The cvt transmission wasn't as enthusiastic at the civic's
Stopped reading there
I am willing to humor you that your fwd econobox is sporty precisely until the moment you mention it's an auto
>I could just picture myself laid back in the seat on the interstate for 4 hours while being engaged enough to stay awake, but comfortable enough not to hate myself.
That isn't driving, go get yourself a self driving car or a bus pass
Chase Peterson
mazda doesn't have low speed follow OP like the civic does.
Adrian Gutierrez
How would that work with a manual?
Nolan Morgan
Faggot
Robert Anderson
Mother's 1st gen 3 is coming up on 10 years old (except for that one time it had a leaky gasket, but I think I caused that by trying to start it in fifth).
Matthew Johnson
>coming up on 10 years old …with no problems…
Brandon Stewart
>obsolete notions of practicality. >implying hot hatches aren't fun and engaging >implying some hot hatches aren't more driver responsive and oriented than miatas >implying SUVs such as BMWs aren't some of the most enjoyable to drive cars in existence >not wanting to take your family camping, hiking, fishing, etc. on the weekends
Fucking miata fanboys are getting worse and worse, there's more to life than sitting in traffic.
Jaxson Brooks
>At least you can put a few simple mods into the civic and not have the engine explode. Maybe after my warranty expires.
Aiden Ward
>That isn't driving Driving differs for everyone, being a retarded bench racer isn't driving either. Hating your driving experience isn't driving, and some people hate the hassle of manuals in (current year).
>hurr get a bus pass you don't deserve to own a car because muh ancient technology legacy
Jose Richardson
depending where you live, mazdas are horrible in terms of rust.
Hunter Ross
fucking retard
Jaxon Cox
I had a 2017 Jetta for six weeks and then I traded it for a '16 Mazda6, AMA