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Is WD going to be the first expansion that will barely change the meta? There are lots of strong cards like Emeralda, Snow and Golden Lion but I don't see any of them close to 3 big mistakes in ToG ( Eacthar, Grimnir, Sibyl)
Mason Walker
FREE PA-
Robert Lopez
Need a concede senpai 93489
Easton Martinez
As the card pool increases in size new sets are going to have less and less of an impact, you see this every time in card games. Unless the devs have power creep spiral out of control or use set rotation, they can't swap out the core engines of every single deck each time, so you'll have fewer and fewer cards being played with each new set.
Gabriel Myers
How do we actually solve the Eachtar problem Literally everything about the card is broken in one way. Theres no way to 'nerf' eachtar because he'd need to be nerfed several times.
Robert Russell
You're blind if you can't spot the powerful cards of WD
Grayson Ortiz
>imagine being french >this new card game is out in your language! >it's full of shadowniggers life is hard for a frenchman
Cooper Scott
Wallet Strom is new king
Isaac Gomez
Of course WD has powerful cards, just none that are strong enough to compete with the current meta. I'm sure we'll see WD cards being played once the expansion after that hits, but not right now.
Nolan James
Name me 1 card in WD who is equal to Grimnir or Eachtar.
Samuel Anderson
Looks like there won't be French voices, just text translations. The frogs are going to be so mad. youtu.be/a4Y8pO9kGWM
Jaxon Cox
JUST
Alexander Hall
>How do we actually solve the Eachtar problem Nerf him?
But Cygames only thinks with $$$ so...
Adrian Reyes
That new blood ward is better 99% of the time for blood.
Jace Reed
>french voices who the fuck would want that
Adrian Moore
some people here don't play all the classes
lol
Isaiah Long
pls send help
Juan Myers
>english get fucked pierre
Caleb Sullivan
I'm pretty confident that Abomination awakened is eachter levels of powerful
Blake Powell
Blood doesn't even run grimmnir right now so it's a moot point.
Jackson Peterson
Why is Arisa still the poster girl when forest is dead?
Julian Peterson
>dubcuck voice >frog text Getting the worst of both I see. Besides, anyone who cared already plays this. I don't see why they even need to support another language.
Lincoln Davis
Just make him cost 8 lmao
Austin Nguyen
>turn 8 do nothing
Grayson Carter
Some people don't have dreams of beating the shit out Luna after raping her
lol
Jacob Flores
Either make him cost 9 or incrase his necromancy cost to 5.
Connor Rivera
some people here don't take take 2
Eli Jones
You can't just nerf a single part of Eachtar though. Increasing the cost of his necro effect is useless Changing zombies to skeletons or something is useless Removing the +2 is useless Removing the rush is useless Making cards he summons get banished is useless.
Eachtar would need insanely heavy nerfs to make him acceptable and at that point no one would play him and everyone gets x3 3500 vials.
He's just too powerful of a play. What were they thinking.
Zachary Garcia
CUTE
Jordan King
Can anyone give me uncropped version of ?
Tyler Lopez
Psst, hey kid. Having trouble with that rune daily? Fear no more.
Bentley Hughes
>name a card better than grimnir >name it >n-no THAT one doesn't count because they don't run Grimnir NOW, which they still do sometimes btw.
Aaron Nguyen
Best new feature tbqh
Josiah Allen
Thank you, Urias
Andrew Thompson
For example, Yu-Gi-Oh sets have 80 cards, but unless there's a new powercreeped theme or they did a meta nuke ban list, only 1-4 cards out of that set will see play.
Juan Perry
>You can't just nerf a single part of Eachtar though. Yes you can.
Increase him to 8PP. Remove his +2 dmg to everything on board component. Change his zombie cost to 4. etc.
Any of the above will make people think twice before using him.
Landon Evans
>Ha, you're wrong because the worse card isn't meta for them right now, so the better version won't be used when the meta changes. ole.
Angel Martinez
Thank god you retards aren't in charge of the game.
James Flores
You're fucking retarded than. Eachtar is 7pp do everything. You can clear board with him, you can push damage with him, you can fill board with him. You can drop him when in almost any situation.
Cameron Diaz
Ancient Elf is standard and is better than Grimnir.
Asher Gomez
She is the main character and the cutest leader
Jose Adams
Hey guys! Theorycraftfag with Tabletop sim back from yesterday.
Before the expansion hits, I'm probably going to run a simulation tournament where I pit 4 TotG meta decks (Mid Shadow, Ramp Dragon, KYS Blood, Aegis Haven) vs 4 Theorycrafted decks from WoD (Neutral Sword, Garuda Haven ft Tin Man, 2 choices not decided on yet).
I'll post updated results on /svg/ for anyone who wants to keep up with it for the sake of getting a clear image of the meta. I'll also link decklists when I'm about to start the playtesting. I'm gonna make a strawpoll in the meantime to help determine which other 2 decks I should put on the WoD side. It'll help me greatly if you fill this out for me :)
I haven't seen a single blood deck run grimmnir since totg. Vengeance needs too many offensive 3 drops, aggro benefits more from veight, and control blood literally doesn't exist.
John Wilson
if the control blood deck you make is ass I'm going to gut you
Jace Garcia
>blood >grimnir C1?
Jose Jenkins
>strawpoll :):):):):):):) :)
Caleb Bell
Ae is worse on turn 10 4 aoe and face damage is insane, Ae wouldn't really be good in other crafts since it destroys your board to get buffed
Parker Watson
This. He's Otohime + Sage commander + rush in one card
It's fucking absurd why anyone at Cygames greenlit this card. How can MTG pros miss something so obvious?
Christopher Kelly
Don't forget we are getting the option to change audio language in-game once WLD arrives.
Noah Turner
Tempo Lion of Goldenia ft. Aegis probably
Grayson Carter
D0?
Forest will never run grimmnir over ancient elf since they will never want to drag the game out to turn 10 and if they do they want to finish with a meme OTK combo, not chip away at your health. Even Jungle Warden synergizes with Forest decks better than Grimmnir ever will.
Camden Stewart
Have any suggestions? Im not going to pilot the deck unless I know that its satisfactory, but I could always use help from all the vampy posters here.
Sebastian Edwards
How would I best alter this to incorporate my waifu? 2x Animated Pascale.
Mason Nguyen
We should make /svg/'s meme translation pack where we rerecord card lines and replace the Korean files with them.
Michael Johnson
Just make his rush and +2 effect on evolve. It would make shadow less oppressive when going first, and stop the back to back Eachtar bullshit when they run out of evolve.
Luis Thomas
Carabosse aggro blood. Everyone is shitting on her but I think she has great potential. Take this as reference and just replace the cards that cost more than six pp with her, maybe replace a couple of imp lancers with big knuckle guy
Grayson Rivera
post all the decks before you start testing them and we'll give our thoughts on it. That way you won't test some C2 trash by mistake.
Asher Kelly
Remember a tilt a day keeps the shadowniggers away.
Ryan Cruz
I got you senpai. No guarantee that it's actually good though, but that should be obvious because it's dirtrune after all.
Colton Hernandez
>Everyone is shitting on her not true in the slightest. only shitposters with the "muh 6PP MM" everyone can see her power in Aggro Blood.
Angel Price
OTK Dirt >Arriet >Mage of nightfall >pascale I know theres a deck for it
Hunter Fisher
>6PP >aggro D0?
Jordan Taylor
I decided to play Shadow for the 5 ranked match reward. (I am A rank).
Only legs are 2 echtars, no catacomb because vialed. No death breath.
Managed to get 5 win and 2 lose.
Echtar was useless because I never drawn him. Orthus is beyond broken, probably one of the best silver card. Even if I didn't draw Echtar, opponent was so scared of it that they prefered to kill my minions instead of going face and winning next turn at turn 7/8/9
Adam Nguyen
Remove 2 cards choosing from: Goblin/Melvie/Aotw/Demonic strike I wouldn't suggest it at all, but good luck anyway, I can see it working since nightfall and illusionists can stick for a while, even crafty warlock
Julian Nelson
I'm at the same place Was tired of getting my shit pushed as sword and slapped up a nigger deck I have no cerberus or reapers, x2 eachtars and DBs, though Shit is literally broken
Ethan Butler
Well the ones I have ready so far are my Neutral Sword and Garuda Haven: imgur.com/a/kSdHq
The TotG decks will most likely be netdecks of successful builds so that just leaves the 2 strawpoll decks to build.
Dylan Wood
All cards have been revealed already? I can't believe that they didn't added Queen of Hearts to the game, im so fucking mad.
Benjamin Walker
MAGIC IS DRAGONS
Ayden Miller
Wouldnt carabosse be good in C blood too? drop 2-3 after turn 8 or so and stall the opponent dry
Nolan Sanchez
>fucks up Spawn tutors no >needing the stall the opp when you have Spawn no
Gavin Myers
I said in any other craft AE is worse, it's not better than Grimnir though it just synergies with forest comboing better. 4pp aoe and 4 face damage is much better than AEs effect that destroys your board and gives you an okay taunt that can be removed easily.
Jace Johnson
>muh spawn watch this shit become the next meme snek
Julian Myers
Would Carabosse's effect stack?
If you played 3 in a game would your opponent take 3 damage a turn and you draw 4 cards a turn?
Austin Myers
>spawn tutor What is this? Google brings up Minecraft.
Anthony Ramirez
shit,nevermind,drawing 4 cards per turn sounds suicidal to get decked out
Connor Phillips
Meme sneks needed vengeance to be effective Spawn may as well be a neutral legendary. It has nothing to do with bloods regular techniques and tools
Ethan Long
How can anyone possibly justify this card? It eats up a 2/2 or grimnir for free, has premium 4 PP stats, doesn't use up an evolve (and if it does, it's better than a cudgel/dragon warrior) and has a completely negligible downside since if you're at 10 health or less it doesn't even apply.
It's clearly a busted card. Blood didn't even need help. What the fuck is wrong with Cygames?
Eli Hughes
I don't understand why noone builds neutral sword with the valkyrie banner Imagine those 1/3's with 1 more attack! Literally 5 pp death's breath And it amplifies your 1 drops to 2 drops
Ayden James
>might as well be neutral
But it can with looking glass :^) sorry dragoncuck.
Cameron Evans
we wanted to focus more on the Control Blood decks
Isaac Reyes
rejoice bro from now on shadow will get jack shyt. Echtar is shadow ''Roach'' a card that is to op making imposible to balance around it i can bet my ass shadow will not get good cards from now on only neutral memes or shyt like that
Nathan Morales
Your post makes no sense and looking glass doesn't even work on 8 pp followers
Lincoln Foster
This card will make Cblood really bullshit to deal with.
Asher Martin
This literally goes in every single Blood deck from this point on. Aggro will run it. KYS Blood will run it. Mid and Control >Control will run it too.
Sebastian Walker
What were they thinking when they printed the bane deal 2 heal for 2 that doesn't require evolve as well? What were they thinking when they printed that Storm chick with execution strapped to her butt? What were they thinking when they printed bandersnatch and spawn? Clearly someone likes to play blood.
Jason Miller
because kmr thought his cblood deck needed its own cudgel but he didn't want to be restricted to evo points
Luis Wood
Tutor describes the fetching of a card from the deck, a term coined in magic. He means to find spawn of the abyss from the deck using baphomet.
Joshua Nguyen
T2 king. Prove me wrong
Adrian Jenkins
If this is the best thing blood gets, fine. It DID need it, Vengeance is great and balanced right now, this is just the kind of card that keeps it fair even when other crafts get new shiny toys.
It's Cudgel, but destroy instead of banish. And in return, no evo, but self damage. It's up to you whether eating 2 face damage in early game is a negligible risk like with KYS, but most of the time you don't want to let a 2/2 hit you in the face on T4.
Kayden Powell
>tfw a neutral gold is better than a staple craft legendary
Nathan Johnson
I would take decking out any day of the week instead of running out of steam and topdecking a fucking ambling wraith.
Xavier Price
>sword gets a destroy x with a body >it needs an evolve ITS NOT FAIR
Josiah Rivera
You need your shadows for eachtar
Robert Gutierrez
Shadow's cards are much easier to play around with Nep is a prime example. Dark Alice is another example. Making corpse have last words would make a new non Hector shadow deck.
Cooper Campbell
But does it compete with Belph?
Noah Ortiz
Ah thank you, forgot what Spawn of the Abyss was.
What a unique title...
Dylan Johnson
>Your PP cant keep with the drawing >most of your draw gets wasted because your hand is full