SN95 V6 mustangs

Eh, fox and sn95 were lukewarm, all cars then were, s197 was actually awesome sans mod motor, post-coyote had been awesome.

They are fucking shit please go die somewhere

For making a non-biased post? Are you "All corvettes can't turn because I saw a guy spin out in one one time" guy?

>not wanting trucclet
crown vics here are over priced, I've seen really nice grand marquis but for v8 mileage I'd rather have a truck since I could actually make money with it to offset the cost.

Are the automatic ones any good? A manual would be great but I only got $1800 so if I find a nicer auto I'd be liable to consider it.
Most manual ones are either the 2.3 or 2.5 around here.

>Do you just want something cheap and rwd?
I suppose.

Non-biased? They are fucking shit and you're saying they're not fucking shit, couldn't BE more biased than that

How are you going to "make money" off a ranger? Picking up illegals and driving them to home depot?

construction work, dump runs, scrap metal,

This are horrible, try and get a v8 if possible, I've seen some of them going for just 3k to 4k.

V6 engines from that year are gutless to say the least, to put it on perspective, a miata ir a civic from recent years would destroy you, the only good v6 mustang models are from 2011 to 2017, and are even faster than new edges/2005-2009 V8s

That's mexican and white trash work, so which one are you?

I'm not spic and I don't live in a trailer, so none of the above faggot.

The Cyclone V6’s (‘11-‘17) are not faster than the 3v GT’s. Somewhat close, but definitely not faster.

What exactly are you looking for in a car, user?

You are right, they are pretty much the same, although the Cyclone edges out at the track because of better gearing and suspension.
Cyclones are faster than pre S197 v8s though.

>What exactly are you looking for in a car, user?
Something that is
1. sub 3000 (more like 2
2. either fun or can be used to transport large items,sheet goods and possible towing.

You don’t really gauge Mustangs around a circuit unless they are a track specific car, like the GT350, Boss 302, AMF Terninator Cobra. All other Mustangs are typically drag cars. And the Cyclone is a fender slower than the 3v.

1) You can find 96-01 V6’s for around $3,000 or less all day long. Even we’ll maintained ones.

2) You can join around I. Then and have some fun. They do have more torque than hp, so they can still be fun even though they are relatively slow compared to the V8’s. (But, so are 2v V8’s compared to actual fast Mustangs like the 4v’s) So, getting a V8’s for the sake of a V8’s isn’t really beneficial since GT’s are slow I. That era too. 2v owner’s are the only ones who claim “Just get a V8” like that makes any difference.

3) Transporting sheet materials and towing isn’t what Mustangs are used for. Just get yourself an old F150 sport or something if that’s what you’re looking for.

4) SN95 V6’s are perfectly fine cars and fun can still be had in them. They are relatively cheap to maintain and are pretty durable cars. So, do whatever you want. Don’t listen to faggots who just spout nonsense on the board just to be hating on something.

Why not? Current S550 GTs are faster than the Boss302, 2011-2014 V6 Cyclones with the performance package are faster around a track than a Miata or a BRZ and in some tracks, faster than a nismo 350z and almost on par with a 370z.

And 2011-2014 GTs also have amazing track performance for the price, almost on par with the M3 in some instances at the track.

Oh no, I'm not saying I am gonna tow with a mustang.
A sedan or average econobox isn't very fun nor the most practical to me, so I am looking at the complete opposite ends of the spectrum, either fun (miata.mustang etc) or practical.(ranger, f150 etc)

This user is correct
And to the anons jacking off over the dead corpse of the 2v V8's
>"hurr get a V8 V6 a shit
How about you get yourself a fucking Cobra or terminator you fuckwad kys

>Are you "All corvettes can't turn because I saw a guy spin out in one one time" guy?
Christ I remember that guy

>Ford Ranger.

So you want a V6 SN95 with a truck body....okay.

Who said
i was getting a v6? :^)

S550’s are nowhere near as fast as the Boss 302. The Boss 302 runs a 1/4 mile in 12.3 sec. While the GT runs a 12.9 sec.

Then get whatever makes you happy. Test drive a bunch of cars and see what you like.

94 GT owner here. I'd probably kill myself if I had the v6. Even 215 horses just isnt enough to give you that jizz in my pants feel. Still love the car though. Great for a first.

> I’d kill myself if I had only 150hp/200tq, gotta have my 215hp
This is what I’m talking about. Faggots like this who think having a V8’s is better even though both the V6’s and 2v V8’s are both slow as shit. They might as well be the exact same output. Don’t listen to faggots like this guy. Both of these cars are used for the exact same thing. Cheap Mustangs that aren’t as boring as your average econo-sedan commuter. That is all. 96-98 V6, 96-98 2v V8, literally no difference.

Is 65 horsepower not a big difference to you? It sure is to me. Yes, it is slow as shit for a mustang, but its faster than its v6 counterpart.

When you aren’t even pushing 300 to the rear wheels, no 65 hp makes no difference. Literally a Camry is faster than your car. Let that sink in.

Fastest standing quarter mile in the world belongs to a 2v 4.6l mustang. With proper care the 2 valves have a FUCK ton of potential. Not to mention the ability to make it 4 valve at any point.

The 94-95 cars have the 5.0 with an aftermarket bigger than your anus user. You can make them as fast as you feel like spending. Not to mention it's the last mustang under 3300 lbs

No it doesn’t. The fastest 1/4 mile time is held by Sammy Miller and was set in 1984. So, try again.

Also, I’m not saying 2v’s can’t be made to be fast. But, they aren’t fast from factory.

The 96-98 V6 Mustangs way a slight bit over 3000 lbs. Also, the Windsor 302 blocks can hold around 550 rwhp before they crack. You have to reenforce the block with braces to have it make any more than that.

The 5.0 block does have limitations around 500 go. But, that's the post 1984 version. Pre-1984 a different cam bearing drill technique was used, which was what caused the cracking for post 84's. The pre-84 blocks can handle more to 750-1000hp.

I messed up my information. The fastest quarter mile for a modular motor is a 2v mustang. However it is also faster than it's main competitor, the LS.

Point is, the sn95 is not a bad car by any means. Sure it's its lack luster from factory, but with a PI swap the 2v 4.6 is making more power than a stock PI motor. While the 5.0 cars simply need the old cam, heads, intake formula with a tune and some nitrous shot. The v8's for the cars also have something a v6 doesn t. And that's the Sound, torque, and shake of a v8. It's an experience that the v6 just can't give you, for not much more $

I’m almost certain, and correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m sure that the 94-95 GT’s didn’t come with pre-1985 blocks. (*sarcasm implied*)

And we aren’t taking about the potential of a 2v in this thread. We are discussing an user getting an SN95 as a daily to hoon around in. Which I’m stock form, the GT’s might as well be no different performance wise from the V6’s. Save for sound. That’s it.

Mustang owner here. I've owned 5 Mustangs. The only thing worse than an SN95 V6 is a Fox Body 2.3l EFI.

2005-2009 V6 4.0s are ok
2015+ V6 is actually pretty decent - got one as a rental on a business trip and beat the piss out of it. Dude at Hertz was like "want to drive something fast? Think you can handle it?"

I took out my phone and showed him my garage. 800hp, 550hp, 500hp... He goes "oh, so this will be slow for you..."

In all actuality, the 2015 V6 is noticeably faster than the stock 4.6 2v and quite possibly the 3v.

For the record I have never owned a V6 Mustang. 2.3, 4.6, 5.4, 5.0, 5.8, and 428SCJ.

So, what you’re saying is, your opinion means little to shit. Considering you’ve never owned a V6 Mustang in your life. I’m a Mustang owner myself, owned three of them total. And it won’t stop there. And a 1996 V6 Mustang was my very first car. They are fine and reliable cars. You can have fun in them as with any Mustang. It’s RWD and can go over 120mph. That’s all you need when taking about a daily driver that’s not a boring commuter. Also, the 2015-2017 V6 Mustang is exactly as fast as a 1999-2004 Mustang GT. So, hearing you say “the 2015 V6 is noticeably faster” just shows that you don’t know how to equate speed to feel. That you you’re senile and don’t remember worth a shit. Pick your defect.

Either way, short story is your opinion means little to shit.

Buy a RX-8 for your waifu's sake

You don’t buy a RX-8. You buy a lifetime of Apex seal repairs.

I esa talking about track perfomance.

4 cylinder Ranger, you can put a turbo on it later

What makes you think that the S550 GT which is heavier and that accelerated slower than the Boss 302 is faster around a track?

>might as well
Das a bit of a stretch desu.

The npi has almost 100 tq over the v6. Are you trying to suggest that you cant feel the difference between 200tq ans 300tq?

>renesis
>not even a cool car
no thanks
if I get a rotary it'd be an FC

The 99-04 GT has 302 tq. Not the 96-98.

The IRS should give it the edge on a road course

Also the Boss 302 makes all its power up top sluggish below 6k would be tough keeping it in the power band on a real track

That is 100% inorrect. The IRS doesn’t give it an advantage when it weighs more and has less power. And the Boss 302 is not sluggish below 6k. At all. What so ever. I do t know where you got that idea. And it was made primarily for track courses. It holds its power throughout the powerband well enough.

Please provide objective reasons as to them having zero redeeming value and this being shit.

Well for one as other people have pointed out, it's slow as balls and has no fucking redeemable aspects to justify having it over the v8. It's basically all of the cons and none of the pros of having a sports coupe. You might as well get a fucking accord instead, at least that way you'll have a reliable car that gets you good mpg.

1) You’ll have fun in any Mustang even if it’s a 90’s V6.

2) There is no reason to get a 96-98 GT over a 96-98 V6 unless it’s just the right price and condition.

3) The V6 Mustang is pretty damn reliable. You can beat on them all day and they will be as strong as ever.

4) The mpg for a 96-98 V6 Mustang is fine enough. I had one as my first car and drive it everywhere even aimlessly.

I agree with v6 mustangs, but that user was talking about all mustangs I thought.
>There is no reason to get a v8 over a v6
Uh, the limited slip diff, stronger axle, better brakes, more power, higher power ceiling, better power/dollar aftermarket, and the sound?

I stand corrected and I agree, the times are Petty close but the 302 edges out, amazing what the 302 Shelby is capable off.
The 350r is a worthy successor.

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Keep in mind op, nowadays your typical econobox like a focus or a civic and your typical SUV, like a Honda Odyssey or a Ford Escape are way faster than a V6 Mustang pre 2011.

2011 - 2017 V6 Mustangs are way faster though, 4.6 V8 levels but with more revving.

2011-2017 V6 Mustangs V6 are way faster than pre 2005 V8s, like a lot.

>Are V6 mustangs REALLY that bad?
Yes. A new edge V6 mustang is slower than a V6 camry, handles like a ford ranger, and sounds like ass. If you must get a new edge, get a Cobra or Terminator, they're the only good ones.

If you're gonna do it, go with a 2000-04, horsepower was bumped up in the 190 range (193 I think?).

Like some other folks said, it's reliable. Not bad as a DD either. Mine is chugging along at 216K with no major issues. Bought it for 1200, but it was an auto. Still can have a bit of fun in it. But if you're gonna do anything under the hood, get a v8.

OP’s not buying one to modify to the limit. He’s buying one to hoon around in. And he’s looking for dirt cheap. So, the V6 will do him just fine. I’m not saying that the V6 and GT are no different in every regard. I’m saying that they are no different in this particular situation. It doesn’t matter which he gets. Also, SN95 GT’s don’t really have better brakes than the V6’s.

11-17 V6’s aren’t faster than 05-10 GT’s.

He’s looking to spend $2k-$3k. While I personally own a Terminator and love them. A V6 is fine for OP’s needs.

1999-2004

This right here. The only mods that make a difference on a V6 is a GT posi rear end and rear gears. Otherwise, don’t mod a V6.

2-3 grand is ratty GT money. No reason not to get one at that budget.

Exactly. A V6 will do him fine.

Thanx for this thread OP
I'm in a VERY similar situation
I'm looking for my FIRST manual car as I've had nothing but slow or heavy autoslushboxes

>1) 92 Pontiac tempest
>2) 2001 Nissan sentra (best handling car I've had)
>3) 2002 jetta (felt hewvy and slow as fuck, lucky it's built like a tank since someone T-boned me in it)
>4) current car is now my shitty 2001 auto tragic cavalier sedan and I despise it

So now I'm looking for either a peppy fwd nipbox like a
Ef/Eg/Ek civic
Mx3
Mx6
Probe
Prelude
Celica
Rsx
Integra

OR more preferably

A torquey Rwd car that makes you feel peppy or quick while still going the speed limit because of da torque
And is rwd so I can get my hoon on and pretend to be an 80s mustached and mullet version of dagumi around the Wal-Mart parking lot or in the back streets of town

So THE REAL QUESTION is, who here has owned a sn95 and/or new edge mustang V6 manual and tried actually hooning around and having spirited driving in it??
Was it fun? Did it feel peppy? Did you feel like a Donkey Kong even though you probably sucked ass?

>that tailfin over the real wheel
Is that a real mod people do?

I'd fuckin do it.
Don't be a bitch
Do it faggle.

My first car was a 1996 Mustang. And they are fun to drive. If you haven’t driven anything fast, then it feels fast enough in a straight line. If you have, then it feels sluggish. But, with that being said it is still fun to hoon around in. And the 96-04 V6’s are pretty reliable engines and trans. Like I said before, if you want a little extra more out of it, get a posi rear end out of a GT and rear gears. Either 3.73 or 4.10. AMF you’ll have a blast joining around in it.

O said pre 2005, which means anything from 2004 downward.
2005-2010 are equal or a tad faster than 2011 - 2017 V6s.

Also, the 15-17 V6’s are exactly the same speed as the 99-04 GT’s.

Nope, deben S550 V6 Mustangs are faster.

2005 Mustang GT: 1/4 mile in 13.5 sec
2017 Mustang V6: 1/4 mile in 14.0 sec
1999-2004 Mustang GT: 1/4 mile in 14.0 sec.

M-muh 5.slow!

.
According to Car N Driver the 2002 GT mustang is a 15.1 Seconds car.

According to Road N Track the 2001 GT is a 14.7 Seconds car.

That was before they got professional drivers. It’s a common fact that New Edge GT’s can run a 14 sec flat.

>a 30% increase in power makes no difference

You sound like a fucking bufoon.

Slow cars are still slow. It’s not a “you can’t feel any difference between the two” statement. It’s a “they are both slow as balls, so it doesn’t matter which one you get” type of statement.

I still got mine, take it out at least one night a week for a long drive on the interstates (120mi or so). It's still fun to floor it on straights coming off of curves, or for cruising in general. Won't impress anyone, but with music and some caffeine, I'm having some fun.

I stand corrected but only because I know the 2015-2017 where somehow gimped to make the economist looks better.

2011-2014 3.7 V6s where capable of running 13.7 at the quarter mile.

Ecoboost*

there is literally nothing wrong with these fields of work
>unironically check your privilege you white male, I bet you grew up lower middle class - middle class in a stable home too fagget

If one is noticeably faster and still cheap, you should get that one. Not to mention they're relatively cheap projects with some "simple" mods that will make them decently quick.

do you know how aggressive scrappers are? you'll be shanked in less than a week

They're ok if you take care of them and don't expect high performance. Also the 3.8 pukes head gaskets like clockwork, but easy to fix as long as you didn't let it get hot when it popped.

You are such a faggot for bumping this gay thread

slowstang is slow. however ford V6 with an upgraded set of gaskets and a shitty bolt on turbo is oddly fun.

youtube.com/watch?v=7xvPWLtmnm8

it works on older gen too. dont expect a stock solution. get ready to DIY your own plumbing. Protip: methanol inejction is your friend, and a DIY methanol is nothing more than spare washer fluid resivor, TB spacer with port, and modified fuel injector. Just have a rheostat and switch to say how much methanol you want to feed your engine and when.

>brand new v6

Get this shit out of here
This is poor boii thread

Git! skeedadle!

The S550 was reduced in horsepower by 5hp. Not a lot. That’s it. Along with the added weight putting it from a 13.9 sec car to a 14.0 sec car. The best times I’ve seen a 11-14 V6 run is a 13.9 sec. but, that’s not saying they aren’t capable of lower ET’s with better drivers. Just saying what I’ve personally seen from them.

He is looking for a car for $2k-$3k pricetag. A 96-98 V6 would be in significantly better condition than a 96-98 GT in that price range. And “noticeably faster than the other” means jack shit when a stock Camry can out run the GT. Literally you’re going to have the same amount of fun joining around in both cars. The V8 isn’t going to change that. And if he’s dailying it, then that’s more of a reason to get the V6 over a slow as balls GT.

My 1996 V6 never had a single problem. And I drove it to 136k mileage.

I don’t think OP wants to mid his hoonigan SN95. Thus with the $2k-$3k pricetag.

Pros like Randy Pobst where Doing 5.1 0 to 60 and 13.7 quarter miles in a base Model 3.7 with the perfomance package.

I agree the extra weight and the reduced power (5hp) where the culprit but also, it had a more aggresive gearing (3.55 ) so I suspect the 3.7 S550 could be faster than what the reviewers say.

Also, for the record, the 2011 3.7 V6 was faster than the S550 V6 at the VIR.

The S550 V6 could do with a good tune to reverse that gap. Also, 3.73 gears wouldn’t hurt either.

do it OP. And post a picture when you do.

Sorry, I meant to say the 2011 V6 was faster at the VIR THAN the S550 Ecoboost.

I don't plan on doing it full time or anything, more just if I find a lawn mower or stuff on the road I'll pick it up. Just something to help subsidize gas and insurance costs on a trucc.[spoiler][/spoiler]

If you plan on doing nothing to it, get the V6. If you plan on modding it at all, get the GT. Simple as that.