Cheap luxury?

Buy an off-lease Avalon now.
Don't even think twice about it, faggot.
Do it.

Don't lead the lad down that path, user.
There be dragons and Anglo "engineering."

hyundai genesis 5.0 r-spec

Avalon? Guuuuuh

The 2014 avalon premium costs the same as a 2014 cadillac cts with similar miles off lease and both are certified pre owned by manufacturer.

Only thing avalon has better is the MPG?

Hyundai produces luxury now? I'll have to check it out.

The cleanest, most low milage LS430 you can find.

$30k for a 5.0 hyundai with same miles?
That's more expensive than the lincoln and closer to a used q3

LS460

It's also got a 450hp V8 and it's the same size as a 5-series.

They also fall apart and that engine chugs a quart of oil every thousand miles

The new Genesis cars do look more promising however, now that Germans are the ones designing them

I think the 2015+ Genesis sedans are probably fine, since that's when they got a refresh and they got Lotus to tune the suspension among other things. The G80 is basically the same car but moved to its own brand.

Avalons are so nice.
They ride like a dream.
The leather is supple.
If you get a Limited, you also get heated and cooled front seats.
Also, not Cadillac reliability.

its funny how I no longer associate luxury cars with sedans.
The height of ride in SUV makes more difference than all the leather and infotainment could ever give

Are you a woman?

nope, I just love not being blind at night thanks to incoming traffic

Clean and coat your windscreen properly to reduce glare
By driving a fuck huge SUV to ferry your 1.5 kids you're part of the problem

2010+ MKZ EcoBoost

It's comfy, domestic, and very responsive. Toss in your own double din with carplay or android auto.

Alt. Save a bit more and get an off-lease Giulia.

When you say "luxury" what are you looking for? Everyone has different metrics

>By driving a fuck huge SUV to ferry your 1.5 kids you're part of the problem
luxury means that you can avoid things you dont like at expense of vallet or the others maybe
i have my lights set right
I just cant see me wanting to drive a car in which I am going to lie downand have to bend knees sideways when getting in and out... ever

Not really, you're just a woman

May as well overpay for a Gucci purse

>gucci
my everything is louis vuitton
now go lie down in to your sedan manlet and dream about what the word luxury means

>land rovers are good at ANYTHING they do
I want to hear you justify this shit

its great at having louis vuitton coat

>the 7-series BMW doesnt wear it better
Now come on gurrrl you know that thing's too fat for modelling

He's wrong here but right in the real world. Uber black cars have largely gone away due to uber black suvs. Same price as a luxury sedan for a chevy suburban with lol leather, holds more people, and lol ride height. People coukd notice the better handling, better construction quality and better acoustic environment of the Bentley continental, for example, but even if shown how to they wont.

>luxury means sitting high in traffic
LMAOing at your life

That's not luxury. This is luxury

It means sitting above everyone else in maximum comfort.
Nothing says "I am above you" more than a big, tall, imposing vehicle.

this user gets it

Those SUVs are nowhere near as comfortable as something like an S Class, but keep being delusional

This is the same logic dicklets in bro trucks use

A cpo bmw 3 series series or c class is your best bet. Couple years of warranty, some dealers will give you a year or two of complimentary maintenance, and all can be had relatively new (2014) for under $25k

Unless it's an 80's Mercedes DON'T buy a German car. From the 90's on up they become expensive money-pits that cost more to keep running than what they're worrth. That's why they have such vicious depreciation.

I'd recommend a Lexus. I know that may not be your first choice but it's far more reliable than any 90's-or-newer German car.

Any car, the put in a 800$ Android double din head unit. Has navigation, browser, music or basically everything your phone can do.

The 3 series can be had at that price but I thought bmw = money pit long term?

I know nothing of mercedes quality past the early 90s.

What luxury brand has the best CPO program that has 2014+ models for $25k or less?

ITT: people who have never owned a German car tell you about German car ownership

>Nothing says "I am above you" more than a big, tall, imposing vehicle.
Except a black e38 Li
Like pic related but with smaller wheels and fixed camber

i used to drive a truck for a living, i guess there's no novelty for me

Idk how you feel about benz, but something like a 2010 E class (get the E350, the 550 is just v8) could be good. I've got a 2013 coupe and while it doesn't do very good on gas (18mpg city) it's comfy as fuck. Since it doesn't have active suspension, you'll need to make sure you don't get the sport model, that one will have stiff suspension.

As as far as price goes, it will be like 18k for a good example and you'll want to save the other 5k for Maintenence. 5k should cover you for 50k miles at a dealer. (assuming you do have some minor issues that aren't just the A or B service)

Used SAAB 9-5 with an aftermarket head unit
under $7000 for God tier ride comfort

More like under $5000, sorry

>my everything is louis vuitton

yeah ur not a chick. uh huh

Yeah you can get a 09-11ish LS460 for $25k no problem.

It will have more than 40k miles on it though, but these are 400k mike cars no joke. Figure 70-90k. Ike’s in the range you are looking at.

They are way nicer than anything Audi makes except for the A8, optioned out A7, and maybe some of the Higher end S or RS shit