Beginner Standard/Naked Bike

Is there such a thing as a solid standard bike for beginners? Or should I just learn on a Ninja 250 and go with a standard after a few years of riding?

Pic related is a common learner bike.

Anything under 600ccs is what I would personally recommend. The Grom is fucking magic for a learner bike, but if you want something you can take on the freeway, the Honda rebel (preferably 500) any CB500, SV650 and basically any Yamaha, Honda, or Ninja at 600ccs or lower will be fine.

Buy used, and not even part of that "hurr used is cheaper" meme but you'll be laying down your first bike a couple times. Don't go speeding around on it, and honestly in your first year of riding there's no real reason to go over the speed limit.

Most of those POV riding videos you see of people outrunning police are from semi-pro riders that have been on bikes since 4 years old, did motorcross shit until they had a license and have been on bikes since. They're not learners. If you're a learner, stay at the speed limit, stay under traffic on freeways in the right lane, don't split or do any other stupid shit, and go take a learner course. You NEED to know how countersteer works, how to weave, how to properly turn and get out of situations, deal with aggressive drivers, etc. Just riding around for a few months isn't enough to teach you these.

Just find a bike you feel comfortable riding.

Something with a liner power band, smooth, good handling and ride quality...

Displacement doesn't really matter. 600cc 1 liter 750 what ever.

>Counter steering on a bike

let's be real here, there is no real "counter Steering" all you are doing is shifting your weight onto the handle bars to initiate a turn.

I have a ninja 300 that I started on and its great.

Goes fast enough for the highway and is easy enough to handle.

I wouldnt get a 250 since those are usually someone else's learner bike thats probably been dropped way too many times.

I wouldn't say that displacement doesn't matter for a beginner

The answer is always GS500

we got 600cc making more power than 1 liter and 250cc 2 stroker making as much power as a 500cc.

A liner predictable power band is the best way to go.

CB400 my friend.

Any single or twin cylinder four stroke engine'd bike up to 650cc should be alright.

Ninja 250's are fine but they're not the be-all and end-all of beginner motorcycling.

If I had to do my time again I'd have saved up for a Ninja 650/ER6n/SV650 desu

It's so heavy and barely has anything worthwhile over the 250's.

Because a 300 won't be someone else's learner bike that's probably been dropped too many times, am I right?

Get a little gw250. Good top speed for the freeway and a great learner bike for cycle physics. Basically a glorified grom.

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If you have to swerve, you better know how to countersteer. For relaxed street riding sure, you can get away with weight shifting.

Bait

If you want smaller engines, z300 if not American or Honda cb300

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CB300 engine is in this, iirc.

i'm looking at this bike today with no experience at all with motorcycles

never even sat on one

how long until I die? I planned on driving it around my backyard until I was confident enough to make some short trips around the neighborhood.

less than 100 hp and you'll be fine. Just don't grab a fist full of front brake during a turn and ALWAYS look through the turn.

you'll want to take the MSF course, but you're not a cuck

>all these wrong people

Pretty sure theyre not sold within Canada :/

Picked up a CB500F a few weeks ago and have really enjoyed it. Its got more than enough power to keep up on the freeways, but doesnt feel so insane that I have to worry about looping it on accident.

To add to that. I meant it in a way that I'm not trying to drive like a fucking street rossi. You could loop just about anything if you try hard enough.

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You can go with a ninja 250/300 if you have no concept of riding. If you rode dirtbikes or are VERY familiar with the controls and feel of a bike forget the 250/300. Go with a single cylinder or vtwin for a first bike as they have predicable linear power bands. GS500, SV650, FZ07, Ninja650 and some adventure bikes like the NC700X are the style you want without being too crazy for a newbie rider

Here in Israel you lane split and filter from day one after your gt your license or at least filter through traffic be first at a stop light.

I ride an 800cc v twin as first big bike. Really easy to ride. I think that anything that is not very big (i.e. weights too much) or too powerful (under 100 hp, better under 60) will do the job.

I think that most middleweight twins are great bikes for a beginner.

i just bought it. didn't really get a chance to ride it, mostly just walked it and kick started it a few times.

it's surpsingly heavy, or maybe I'm just an out of shape bitch, but I thought I'd be able to man handle it a bit better. I'm sure I'll get used to it, gonna actually ride it tomorrow.