>make a thread three years ago asking for a cheap car that is easy to maintain and low fuel consumption >bought a 1999 Honda Civic Sedan as suggested by Veeky Forums >a year gone by >mileage is roughly 18mpg on city >spent around $2000+ on repairs not counting paint jobs and body repairs >rust slowly developing on some parts >not anymore insured because lol too old >should have bought a new car instead
So you got me Veeky Forums. I wasted my money on this piece of gas guzzling junk. I should have bought a new car instead.
>You need to buy a good $3000 Civic, not a bad one
>implying I didn't
Also fuel consumption of a used car is much higher
Adam Collins
The meme always balances out, always. >buy $600 civic >spend $1400 fixing it >$2000 >buy tires >$2400 >$140 in bodywork >$2540 >$60 in seals >$2600 >need steering rack still >$2800 >need new trunk >guess what the junkyard guy wants for it >$200 It's not a meme, it's a law of nature.
Daniel Peterson
>fuel efficient
Nathan Gray
>body repair and paintjob on 1999 Civic. >18mpg city
Do 53 mpg averaged over one tank or 790 km in a same year Civic but the hatch. -regularly.
Caleb Ortiz
If you knew how to drive it, it would still be better than a new car that you cant afford.
you can drive it hard because its cheap, unlike a new expensive car
Dominic Walker
$1400 fixing it
It's a fucking civic. Everything is cheap as chips. I did the entire front suspension, with all new arms, axles bearings, bushes etc. for under $400
You could swap a b16 in it for that kind of money. Civics are a poorfags best friend. Just because that you're incompetent with cash doesn't mean this is a bad car. It does however explain why you're a poorfag.
Julian Moore
whut how do you 18mpg also 2000 on repairs? are you some kind of dumbass that brings it to some expensive ass garage? Also why do you paint a shitbox
the 1.4 and 1.5 vtec-e do like 50.
you're the kind of guy that burns a microwave dinner arn't you
Connor Young
>should have bought a new car instead *newer
Jack Gonzalez
On like highway mang
I live in LA and it gets 18mpg
Isaiah Ward
This.
Connor Diaz
> Also why do you paint a shitbox
>he doesn't repaint his car
Colton Young
>some kind of dumbass that brings it to an expensive ass garage
not op but if you can't work on your own car then what the fuck are you supposed do? Literally every car shop in the country will jew you out of money unless youre buddys with the owner or something. I think you're the dumbass
Noah Jones
>can't Won't. Or are you somehow disabled mentally or physically?
Carter Miller
>burns a microwave dinner My roommate put an onion bagel dog in the microwave for 10 minutes. I had to move out.
Aiden Cook
If you need body repairs you can't really blame the car for having mechanical issues. Try not fucking crashing or being crashed into.
Julian Martinez
Work on your own car.
Eli Taylor
>buying a shitty civic >caring about paint or body problems >not doing your own body work with a 3 pound hammer and a can of rustoleum >insuring the car with anything other than liability >can't even turn a wrench himself >buying parts from the dealership kys cuck
I bet it is even an automatic too.
Thomas Taylor
I'd love to learn to but I work full time in an office, live in an apartment, have no tools to speak of, and no friends or family that work on cars. I've done some little stuff before like replace the radiator/heater hoses but when it came time to do the timing belt and all I had was 1 socket set and some funnels, I had to go get assraped by a shop.
Asher Peterson
>I live in LA You deserve everything you get
Jose Mitchell
>own civic >a fucking jeep backs right into me in the parking lot and caves in the right side door >their insurance gives me 2 grand for damage >buy pretty good looking door for $40 from a junkyard, hammer out the rest of damage mostly into shape, and pocket the rest of the money >I originally bought the car for $2500 Owning a Civic has been pretty good for me money-wise so far. Just has a bit of cellulite on it.
Dominic Ortiz
What else do you need other than a socket set and maybe a torque wrench to do a timing belt?
Christopher Reed
can I use your garage and have you help me? Because all I have is a socket set and some funnels
Joseph Kelly
Use the socket set to take the valve cover off, then replace the timing belt. Do it wherever your car is parked.
With cars there really isn't much learning, just doing.
Eli Mitchell
Could have bought a food motorcycle for that money, idiot.
>Inb4 muh safetyyyyyyy waaaahhhh
Mason Murphy
some knowledge and maybe a second pair of hands. I wasn't going to potentially fuck up my car trying to do important maintenance by watching youtube vids in a parking lot. And apparently the timing belt on an EJ253 is a pain in the ass even if you have the right tools.
Jordan Reyes
>I wasn't going to potentially fuck up my car trying to do important maintenance by watching youtube vids in a parking lot. Well, that's how everybody starts my man. Get to it.
Pain in the ass really only means it just takes longer, not that it requires some sage knowledge.
Aiden Barnes
It needed quite a bit >suspension links >brakes all around >ECM >alternator >door hinges >exhaust And a few more things, it all totalled $1400. Yeah, I understand that money could have been spent much wiser, but a lot of the issues that came up were unexpected. The only thing I figured I needed was the computer and brakes. Everything else was a surprise. I'd finish one thing, and then notice something else. Even the supposedly 'clean' rockers were garbage. I never said it was a bad car either, I happen to enjoy my Civ' quite a bit. I'd like to know where you got all your front end parts, Saf-Way charged me almost $300 for the front brakes alone.
Jack Myers
>the average normie
Justin Gutierrez
>Also fuel consumption of a used car is much higher
>Car gets 30mpg from factory >Does this for a year >Owner sells it because America has to have a new car >Guy who buys it second hand gets only 18 mpg because it is now used
Liam Watson
You learn how to work on your own car? You know part of being an adult is taking responsibility and not making excuses.
Cameron Carter
>paying for a brake job tripfags baka
Nathan Howard
I didn't pay for a brake job, I payed for the parts...
Carter Martinez
If you own a VAG pos, you need the special VAG flywheel lock
Asher Phillips
>sister buys 220k mile civic for 3k >fucking 50mpg >dead reliable >all i had to do was a tuneup love that little shitbox
Easton Bell
fuck, I know your right. But its easier to bitch... I guess I just need to bite the bullet, buy a jack/stands, and try to fix the next thing that needs fixing
Elijah Gomez
>Also fuel consumption of a used car is much higher because people dont fucking do a damn tuneup
John Allen
Can you just jam a prybar in the right place?
Elijah Torres
fucking kill yourself
Anthony Moore
So how much did that mechanic just rape you for?
Nicholas Howard
Not in all engines, like the EA111 series, they were designed in a way that prevents this to complicate maintenance
t. autonigger lube tech
Hudson James
Of course it is automatic im not a third world nigger poor
Ayden Roberts
>part of being an adult is taking responsibility and not making excuses
im sorry, dad. I'll quit 'making excuses' about why auto shops overcharge and why I can't replace my own clutch using nothing but google and a $30 socket set
Hunter Carter
it's not my fault you're an inept retard
Ian Gomez
$1100 dollars for timing belt/waterpump........
Samuel Gutierrez
The proper fix is to not burn up your clutch in the first place
Xavier Wilson
>I can't replace my own clutch using nothing but google and a $30 socket set
illiterate mexicans do this on the daily in my neighborhood. whats your excuse?
Jackson Brown
kek
or buy a car with a burnt up clutch
Cooper Hughes
you need to grow up and stop making excuses
Andrew Scott
Let's face it, he probably tore it up himself
Eli Hall
>listening to busriders
Anyone that suggests a few is a normie cuck or a busrider. Get a crown Vic.
Jayden Howard
>I can't replace my own clutch using nothing but google and a $30 socket set Actually that's all you need
Dominic Hughes
isn't that like saying the proper fix for brakes is not wearing them out to begin with?
Easton Morales
engine breaking brah
David Bennett
Brakes wear by design through normal use.
Clutches only significantly wear if you suck at using your left foot
Grayson Moore
no, not at all.
Besides brake wear is regular maintenance. Clutch, irregular. You could baby a clutch well over 120k miles. Most people don't even own a car that long.
Nolan Watson
>im not a third world nigger poor >buying a used honda civic
Julian Allen
>American education
Zachary Stewart
Actually clutch friction material wears out anyway and it will need replacement at like 200k miles or something
Jacob King
Make sure your tires are filled, my friend has one and he told me that the fuel economy gets a lot worse with low tires
Wyatt King
That's a lot of fucking miles though. By that point you're probably going to lose a head gasket or something else equally annoying to fix
Henry Garcia
>head gasket Now THAT is something that should last the life of the engine(before it needs a rebuild, that is) which should be around 250 or 300k miles. If your head gasket blows before you take the engine apart to rebuild it, someone skipped basic maintenance
Benjamin King
Check'd
Juan Rogers
>and it's automatic too
OP is literally a nigger in denial.
Landon Fisher
Why didn't they total it if you only bought it for $2500?
Justin Brooks
They saved $500-.
Adrian Turner
I have a 5.3 Silverado and I get 18mpg city. Nigger what are you doing?
Nolan Thompson
It's ok OP my small sedan requires premium and gets like 20 combined
Julian Cooper
I have a 99 Civic as well, 4 door, 222k miles and I get over 30 driving normally. Your car must run like shit to only get 18mpg... I had a full size Chevy crew-cab diesel pick up that got 18 mpg without much effort.
Easton Jones
Lel my '96 civic was the most dead reliable car i had until it flossed. My meme unlikable Volvo is a bit of a money out though.
Elijah Williams
You should probably change the oxygen sensor.
Nathan Ross
>Buying nipshit >Ever
You deserve it
Juan Hughes
It's probably leaking oil through the valve guides. Kills your economy and is a common problem on 90s Hondas.
Anthony Scott
It was just under the amount that would have totaled it they said, so I could keep the car
Dylan Ross
The cheap beater thing only works if you work on it yourself.
No 20+ year old car will be dead reliable.
Colton Bennett
>mang Are you an illegal too?
Learn to work on your car faggot. This used to be a regular thing to do until gen x “men” decided it was better to start acting like women and have everything done for them. If youre a taco this makes you even more pathetic, btw
Robert Miller
>Saf-Way charged me almost $300 for the front brakes alone. Damn. $300 per axle for you. The Honda dealer here has brake service regularly priced at $149 per axle. When they have specials, it is even lower. This is my local Honda dealer. The DeaLER. But we also have lots of brake shops competing on price that have $100 specials. So the Honda dealer is more expensive than those cut rate independent shops.
>bought a 1999 Honda Civic Sedan as suggested by Veeky Forums
Ayden Robinson
Eh, it was 300 for both front, so 150 per axle? or I'm not seeing something right. I'll see if I can dig up the receipt anyways, to tally up how hard I was Jew'd
Brayden Davis
No, you're just a shit driver if you get 18mpg in a civic.
Henry Brooks
TFW I get over 20 avg in a 4.0 Cherokee
Luis Thomas
what exactly is included in a "tuneup"?
Christian Russell
I paid $500 for a 1.6l manual honda civic lx. I bought it 2 years ago. It has 317k miles on it. I average 35-40mpg with mixed driving and have had zero problems with it. Don't know what your problem is man.
Oliver Reed
Nothing. It's a scam service if the car has an ecu.
Christian Collins
*cough* timing belt *cough*
Easton Fisher
>Even the supposedly 'clean' rockers were garbage
really though, this was you fault for not giving it a full on inspection.
Austin Reed
My 2.5L V6 5mt that drinks fuel like a Somali pirate on the highway still does 20mpg in the city. Fucking thing does 4000rpm @ 80mph, yay volumetric efficiency.
Maybe you should do a fucking tune up once in a while.
Christopher Hernandez
If you're as much of a badge whore as i think you are, you could have gotten a BMW 325 e46 and spend the same amount of money on it.
Zachary Watson
in a nutshell a check and replacement ignition system parts replacement of spark plugs(definitely) and wires(or CoP's if the car uses that system) and have higher mileage, too much resistance damage etc
replacement of any other ignition part that is out of spec (coil pack, distributor whatever)
I would usually do a fuel filter, pcv valve, air filter change, clean throttle body, egr ports, iacv if it's gunked up at the same time, but that shit not included in your typical shop tuneup.
Owen Nguyen
>and have higher mileage, too much resistance damage etc
**** if they have higher mileage, too much resistance, damage, etc
and a very light coating of dielectric grease on contact points shit worked wonders on my battery terminals and coil pack plugs
Benjamin Butler
How many miles did it have to start?
Easton Reyes
CoP's don't have moving parts like a cap and rotor, plus they can be somewhat pricey depending if they're OEM or aftermarket, why change them?
Alexander Bailey
more than you can afford pal.
Easton Cox
Yall niggas to learnt how to work on your car. You can save yourself thousands in the long run. Pay $90 for an oil change? Fuck that, do it yourself. It takes less than 15 minutes and hardly any effort is involved. Half the time is waiting for the oil to drain out.
Jackson King
290 something, I put 10k or so on it each year.
Christopher Flores
>CoP's don't have moving parts like a cap and rotor never said they did
>why change them? only if needed
David Jenkins
You bought someone else's piece of shit.
I got like 30mpg mixed in mine.
David Thomas
Right? I did some light hypermiling and got 50mpg.