Heroes of the Storm General - /hotsg/

Probably samuro.

Regenerative Aura as a passive regen that he can activate to have it drain mana to AoE heal like a russian bootleg Lucio is not the most creative but it'll be what we're getting

That's not Puck

>puck

Can you achieve Tychus body natty?

Are we finally getting a support that is good at pushing lanes as well?

>Both see high level if not pro play

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butcher with full stacks and cleaver? valla?

or maybe Azmodan with badult

You need %5 genetics to get it

>Pick Malth into double support
>Touch of Death
>tormented soul in the middle of everybody
>their team crumples like paper

touch of death is so fucking good, uther even spamming after his death did nothing

I just want to use Li Li as an onahole and repopulate the pandas.

Extra range + Eager wolf + Blunderbuss greymane. Shits out 900+ dps with aa's in worgen form. Blunderbuss basically turns your AA into a cocktail.

Abathur

Buffs when?

so when do you actually use drain life as guldan
does it have any use in teamfights whatsoever because it feels like 99% of the time i'm better off hugging my support's ass and spamming fel flame

or is it literally only useful for sucking off creeps when you are away from your support

Use it when a single enemy is trying to kill you and has nothing to interrupt your drain

Nowhere on the radar. He had an 80% winrate at hgc, most of his builds are still pretty damn strong if somewhat niche.

They have to be stupidly careful with him because even small number tweaks can make him ridiculously overpowered in a game warping manner.

m8

They could start by replacing monstrosity with an ultimate that adds a new skill to your hat or something that makes your hat worth more than a clone

Monstrosity fills a niche. It isn't usually the correct choice, but in the situations where it *is* the correct choice it is an amazingly powerful choice. A few hat talents and a bigger map like warhead and monstrosity can absolutely kill a solo target that tries to defend vs it.

instead of having to put the hat on the monstrosity to control it just let aba press R to command it rexxar-style

They shouldn't be defending against it, they should be enjoying the free 4v5 win at the objective before going to kill the monstrosity as a group. It only works in bronze games

Blizzard had to be aware that Mal completely breaks some maps, right? Trying to play against him on the immortals map is so blatantly unfair.

>He is able to outdamages 4-5 heroes on the enemy team himself so much so that one hero forces you to be on defense
>Even if he does lose the immortal, he is able to kill yours before it can do anything

The same shit happens on the punisher map too. God fucking dammit Blizzard, I know the tank meta was strong but why does he deal so much damage to objectives and bosses?

>Hating on Monstrosity
It's amazing when used right. It can push a lane crazy fast.

Would be nice. Could even have a situation where you hat someone while the monstrosity is with the team.

You can leave the monstrosity to its own devices most of the time and hat someone in the team fight.

mal does good damage to the immortal but nowhere near as much as you think
% damage is capped so it does much less than 2.5% of the immortal's hp per second

he does about as much dps to it as valla or artanis

>Some heroes are better in some maps than others
Next you're going to bitch that Abathur generates too much XP on Sky Temple or Cursed Hollow.

>>He is able to outdamages 4-5 heroes on the enemy team himself so much so that one hero
forces you to be on defense

No he doesn't. %damage has a health cap, it will *never* deal more damage than if the target had 3652+4%/lvl hp. So if you're playing a level 1 malthael, and an immortal spawns, and you hit it once, even though it has 17000 hp on its first spawn, you treat it as though it only had 3799 hp. Which makes you do about 95 damage per second. Go fucking test it in a custom game.

>>Even if he does lose the immortal, he is able to kill yours before it can do anything

No he doesnt.

>The same shit happens on the punisher map too.

No it fucking doesnt you stupid bronzie.

>why does he deal so much damage to objectives and bosses?

He doesn't. Greymane, Lunara, Sylvanas and Valla *all do more*.

It's not about being better, it's about being too good at it. Obviously some heroes are going to be better on some maps, but Mal is good enough to be picked on every map (currently, no idea how the nerfs will effect him) but also completely breaks a few of the maps.

It's also bullshit that like 3 of them are on the current rotation.

You won't BELIEVE how good Kael'Thas is on Infernal Shrines like........DUDE!

>implying shed feel you're human cock

Monstrosity is just a "win more" ulti, If your team is already winning 4v5, monstrosity will be pushing a lane to increase power gap between the teams. If you are picking monstrosity you would have been better off picking Azmodan and split pushing all game long

>he does about as much dps to it as valla or artanis

Valla at level 20 with either AA build or Q build does a sustained like 900+ damage to immortals. Q build comes online earlier though and is safer than AA build.

Malthael with the old 5% memento mori only did like 670 dps to immortals, if holding down Q (which provided about 30% of the damage).

i thought monstro was the ult for when you're doing a meme illidan/valla strat and you want to put the adrenaline hat on your hypercarry 100% of the time in teamfights and never take it off to control a clone

Not really. Monstrosity is a "They have drafted a team with very low waveclear and we don't really have many teamfighting options, so lets splitpush them to death" ultimate.

What happened to double healer with Li Li meta?

Educate yourself please. These are numbers before todays 'nerf' to malthael.

imgur.com/a/oH5ZD

At 4% scaling, the cap for max health that % damage effects is 8000 at level 20. which means malthael (without memento mori) is getting 200 dps vs immortal.

Sure if you want to meme it up, pick the meme ulti

That only happens in QM and bronze

Okay what is Malth's "counter"?

>stuns

Unless Malth is retarded, he already marked a bunch of people with his ult. No stun lasts 4-6 seconds. You stun Malth, he still gets the full value of marks, then he teleports and heals immediately after regaining control, losing nothing but his auto attack damage.

Is that really a counter?

Seems like the only really counter is, a fuck load of aoe healing.

>silenced again
you know what ?
I'm done communicating.
Calling out a guy for being off position, telling a guy not to pick nova, etc... netted me my second silence in a month, this last match for which I was reported I didn't say anything, a guy kept calling me autist because I didn't dive with him 2v5, on the score screen I told him well done for feeding and I'm silenced.
this is fucking annoying, the community of this game is fucking retarded, yes, report people for carrying you, retards.

Personally seen it happen in diamond. But okay.

>Okay what is Malth's "counter"?

He's very similar to lunara: He does a lot of spread damage. So aoe healing. He's also weak to silences and roots. So shit like valeera (who is an excellent anti-diver) or malfurion (twilight dream silence). Kharazim absolutely fucking ruins him with SSS when malthael dives solo and he has aoe healing; if malthael goes rites divine palm fixes that. Lucio is also strong vs him.

Literally draft double support against him.

Lili got nerfed
Malfurion got nerfed

Malthael craps all over double healer current.

Uther just got nerfed today so its still unsure where he stands

It's not his fault, he just saw the yellow chunk and went "WOAH!"

>blocks your weak AoE heal

>Malthael craps all over double healer current.
Lucio + Auriel is retardedly strong always. Lucio can help peel for a hypercarry and shits out aoe healing.

Oh no man, if only I didnt have sound barrier because i'm playing lucio. Whatever would I do without 2000 hitpoint shields for 6 seconds.

And yet the thing doesn't die in 22 seconds flat. So something else must be going on.

I'm convinced people in this game have fucking forgot how to count.

>halves a weak-but-fast heal
>thinks it's effective
malthael is truly... the smart man's hero.......

Yeah man, imagine if it only reduced a weak but fast heal by 33%, that wouldn't make one of the highest pickrate heroes drop like a rock

>which means malthael (without memento mori) is getting 200 dps vs immortal
The chart says its more than twice that.

Daily reminder:

youtube.com/watch?v=MrgWQp6TjDY

From his trait. Which does 2.5% max health damage. With the new upgrade the trait would account for 320 dps vs immortal (the old one would have been 400 dps + Q + AA's).

The chart also says sylvanas has among the highest sustained damage yet she is incredibly slow at getting merc camps. Pretty sure it's bullshit.

the chart damage includes memento mori as well as the damage from holding down Q, presumably

Barbed arrows and resetting arrow count are quite good against single target things like immortals. She can even add quite a bit of damage on things like bosses - as long as someone else tanks for her.

That doesn't mean she's good at taking mercs - Sylvanas *really* doesn't like to get hit back. I cant remember the stats for siege but giants have something like 4000 hp each and sylv has issues keeping them stunned via trait.

Against bruiser camps the heroes who really excel are the ones who have good area of effect damage like sonya, or even jaina.

But y'know, there's all sorts of places where you can go to actually look at the numbers and find out that yes in fact she does perform rather well on single target neutral critters when she's never at risk of getting hit back.

he has huge sustain healing but low ability to disengage so the counter is focus firing and bursting him down as fast as possible when he jumps in with his ult
hopefully you have some mages because he gets physical armor out the ass just for existing

Barbed arrows with double E filling up your Q charges melts niggas pretty quick

>user is too retarded/too low self control to manage not to get silenced

>Divine Shield + Tormented Souls
>Near Guaranteed teamwipe no matter what

its too fucking good. Had Uther pretty much glued to my ass when both our ults were up

And then splintered spear lunara wipes your whole team.

Best Valla build?

>Be Kael
>Throw a large Orange beach ball at her

You mean that ez gg countered hero?

>implying thats broken
Divine Shield + this bullshit melts more reliably and nobody can escape Genji unlike Malthael.

I have no tolerance for retards, it's already hard enough when 2 members of your team die once a minute

Q

Really? Hungering Arrow build? Why?

yeah the whole point of malth is that he's fukken unkillable with all his armor and self-heals
he doesn't need invulnerability on top of that

on battlefield of eternity maybe
multishot, but if you can get away with full AA it's more powerful but easily punished

He's Just Kerrigan, but better, oh but slows instead of stuns.

I really don't think Blizz realizes how insane his talent synergy is, and how he has a "Oh they built a counter team?, make that not work" - talent

His base kit, handle-able, late game Malth? Holy fucking lord.

>multishot
only with auriel otherwise its easily the worst build

what are his counter talents? Going full Q instead of memento? I'm not even sure what that counters since you lose so much damage without it

Nazeepo with garg or azmodan with that ult that isnt black pool and lazer build?
Idk tho

anyone have the locust webm where they kill tyrande or someone

Medivh with that talent that makes Qs one-shot minions. Is it a lv 16 talent or lv 20? Somewhere along those lines.

But if we're including tower damage, I'd probably say Napalm Hammer. Napalm melts buildings and minions so quickly, if you leave her alone for ~20 seconds she can probably take a whole fort solo. 30-40 seconds and maybe the keep too.

After that, probably Azmodan.

Most mages are good at wiping waves but their cooldowns are high enough such that they probably can't walk down the lane to clear multiple waves so they're not that effective, same for dumping spell damage on buildings.

Guys like Artanis, Thrall, and Falstad are probably good better-than-average contenders for solo wave clear and building smashing.

HAHAHA AGAIN

>tfw massive losing streak

f-forced 50 is gonna kick in soon, right?

>all the etheral existence change did is let me stand in 5 people and not die even better

wew

hotsg only hates me because i unironically support assad and saddam hussein. i'm a good player, it's just that i have "unacceptable" political beliefs

>Started playing this game late April
>Will NEVER get this skin

FUCK

It'll be back for Halloween, along with Vampire Arthas, Vampire Kerrrigan, Skull Abathur, Scarecrow Xul and whatever two new skins they'll make for this year

Damn, is this new? I'm pretty sure I never saw it when I complained about Vallas low quality skins.

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for the love of god end your life already you annoying faggot

i'm not at all suicidal (because i am mentally stable) so good luck w/ that

>Slip n' Stream Tracer
>wet and glossy with CUM

Who cares, she sucks anyway.

lol

>Get mines
>Picked a specialist pusher
>Grab all the camps
>Watch team not even get a single skull while dying slowly
>Our nova goes afk the whole match
>Comes back only to blame us while feeding out the ass

I swear every time I try to push nobody knows how to get the objective. Of course I try to get the objective nobody helps while not pushing. There is just not fucking winning with these fuckers.

...

>Get into plat
>People still think Nova is a good first pick

At what fucking point does this meme stop?

Yeah, she sucks real good.

Hey guys, so I got 1300 jewels and wanted to know what to buy: 14 regular chests or a 30 day stimpack.

>Best Aesthetic
>Best Gimmick
>Best Announcer Interaction
>Best Map Size
>Has 3 lanes
>No real snowballing, comebacks can happen

Is Towers of Doom the best map in the game?