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>THE BASICS
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Giving Atlantis 20 minutes. If he's kill, we're restarting.

Based admin

Wherever you are Atlantis, kys.

No, ichtyids are strong not because a nets.
Shedu, size 6, VS 30 ichtyids and 1 ichtyid shaman.
A least probability to get affliction is to stay as far as it's possible and cast flying shards 5 turns and attack after it. But even so here's 1 of 6 chance to get affliction. Other orders leads to 1 of 3 battle bringing afflictions. Without casting anything here's 50% Shedu dies.
30 ichtyids! Same Shedu kills 60 heavy infantry. Without much trouble.

It's because of nets that they do that.

There was no one net.

I'm going to stale turn 1 if you don't restart it again.

All regular ichtyids have nets man. Its part of their melee attack.

>lots of resources and neighboring farm
That's a good start

What nation are you?

Midgard

Wrong.

Midgard would never bitch about starting near the sea. It's free map coverage.

Im trying to get into blood magic nations but everything seems so annoying
You have to micromanage all the bloodhunting when normally the gems just go your reserves its really redundant
but the thing i want to ask about is the "X has broken free" event , how often does this happen?
ive summoned some arch devils in a SP game but so far it didnt happen and it looks like a big danger that comes with demon summoning

It can be negated by large beings. That's why i mentioned size of shedu. It wasn't entraped at all.

In a multiplayer game, micromanaging the blood slave collection really isn't that bad. It's moving, what, two to six scouts around on most turns until you get to the real late game? Just press collect all slaves on the ones pickin' them up, and deposit all slaves on the ones bringing them back.

I don't have numbers on the big guys breaking free, but remember that they're not your main strength. They're just useful mages. Your big strength is endless hordes of units that are actually quite strong.

Freespawn troops that have upkeep is a bad idea, right?

Freespawn troops are a bad idea in general.

Not really.

Suffer not for the spook to exist.

Just buckle up and deal with it. Or do you care about your win rate or something?

No, but I wanted to have fun.

Don't be sad, user. If you get bad indies, I'll send you a consolation prize.

>has broken free" event
Usually never

Dead as fuck today.

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If this means an invasion party I will deathbasket on malakal.

I was in that thread too user.

Who's Malakal playing?

Get in the Steam chat.

I actually wanted to send you dosh, but this also sounds tempting.

This man is clearly bluffing. Just invade him anyway.

Did no one realize how enormous Abysia is?

Yes. But then again, all other nations are really big as well.

t. Yomi

I have 0% fear of an awake doublebless being large.

What if they start shitting horrors all over you?

Malakal doesn't use horrors much.

He doesn't have any bloodhunters out so

That's what Malakal would say.

>reaching blood 8 as drain 3 Abysia
>ever

lol

What if he got access to death magic somehow and was secretly bloodhunting with warlocks equipped with cats eye amulets?

>implying
Have you never heard of lightless lanterns?

Stop trying to gangbang me Carlix

He blessrushed me, I skellyspammer rushed his cap

t. Malakal

Oh, I most emphatically DO want Carlix to gangbang Malakal

I know its the weekend and most people probably have a social life but seriously.

Post feet

sad

I swear if you fuckers let the thread die again

Malakal on the left

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I see Nazca is starting their suicide cult early this year.

I want to marry Kate Micucci!

I want to marry an ichtyid!

i fucked up

>two UW nations on Peliwyr
This can't end well. Pelagia lost the blind expansion, by the way.

Did you guys both spawn in the same pond?

Were you here for TurtleIsland?

No.

Well, Peliwyr only has UW spawns in one pond.

Oh fuck.

A seven province pond, iirc. I'll have to check the turn.

It has 10 provinces.

I played there as MA Pelagia once against MA R'lyeh. The second cap site was delicious.

I'll buy up to 100 death gems for 25 gold/gem

>tfw joined TurtleIsland before the memes caused another UWBowl

Well I did too and it hasn't really affected us land dwellers. If course now that there's only 1 left he probably has a great income but it's too late for him to win anyway.

llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=SnekEater

New game recruiting

Make it not be Peliwyr

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This post.

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Remember to optimize your SCs

Truth.

Can you sub me? Im working 12+ hour days but Im in a good position so it would be a shame to go AI

Why no fear helmet? He's a death mage so it's good.

Fear effects increase in 5 point intervals so D2 does nothing for it.

Wrong.

Nope. Death magic creates fear at D5 which is minimum fear but it increases existing fear effect for each point of D. So the helmet would create fear 5 and get 2 points from D for fear 7.

And what benefit does fear 7 have over 5????

It's two better!

And here's the next HoMM3 conversion - the Necropolis. Deyja is a corrupt offshoot cult of Bracada. The nation features recruitable undead troops, skeleton-summoning necromancers, non-immortal liches, no popkill, even though Dominion spreads Death.

z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/index.php?showtopic=3407

Fear increases the morale effects in increments of 5. However, every level increases the radius at which the Fear radiates. So 7 has a slightly larger radius of effect, but is no more powerful than Fear 5.

>Fear increases the morale effects in increments of 5
How do you know?

Extensive testing from people who aren't me, whose words I'm regurgitating without testing myself. There was a post on the Dominions 3 boards about people trying to figure out how the fuck fear works and someone cobbled that together.

If you can find it, that'd be helpful. I'm still not sure how the morale checks work, since it seems to matter how much of a squad was hit. Otherwise the D1 fear spell would route squads extremely quickly when it's spammed.

This seems like a breakpoint which should not exist.

Do liches have the aoe cloudkill effect?

moddb.com/games/dominions-4-thrones-of-ascensions/forum/thread/request-for-clarification-of-the-fear-mechanics#954483

A quick google search gave me this, I don't quite recall if this is it but it seems like it could be.

Yes.

Cool. We should host a Homm3 nation only game some time.

There are too few nations for that though.

>that post
>those quotes and links
>that (sic)
Holy shit.

More importantly, and in relation to ,

Fear 7 >>> Fear 0, and that fuckboi has a free helmet slot.

We can fix that, what nations do we have so far? Humans and elves should be quite easy as they'll essentially be reskins

We have Castle, Rampart, Tower, Inferno, and Necropolis.

I am not sure about dread knights, they can't thug well but on the other hand they can be massed to reanimate undead. But then so can be normal mages. Need a buff I think.

Vampire troops are OP, looks like 3 attacks for asize2 unit out of those one is life drain.

alright smart people of domg

tell me about the late game stuff

can the nations be sorted out based on their early and late game strenght alone?
i thought that it goes like :
blessrushing=giantsrushing>something in between > puny hoomans
then i learned some more stuff and heard about the power of armageddon and blood hunting and communions and changed my mind to:
bless/giantrushing>puny blood humanz>puny deth and astral humans>powerful popkill global/wish shitting nations
but now while reading a guide abt marverni found on dom4 wiki i read that " You are not a lategame nation - you are a terrifying late earlygame power." which doesnt really match my vision of marverni
Help me understand this shit and pick my favourite all around good nations
pls