What does aut/o/ think of Renault Zoe?

What does aut/o/ think of Renault Zoe?

>400 kilometer (250 miles) range
>Price: €20,700 (US$27,250)
>Fast charging capability (half an hour to 80%)

Is the future already here?

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The future was here almost 20 years ago already.

Kek

>Renault Zoe
Isn't that the one where you don't actually own the battery
and are cucked into a contract where you pay monthly fees?

I mean considering how fast those batteries expire it kinda makes sense for you not to own it, makes it a lot easier for the companies to recycle them since they basically own them.

Well yes, you rent the battery. I’ve been thinking about that too and thought it was stoopid. But the more I think about it the better it sounds.

The reasons is that the batteries have developed rapidly and will continue to do so. For example. The Zoe from 2015 had a range of 210 km, then the Zoe from the first half of 2016 had the range of 250 km, and not the Zoe from second half of 2016 has the range of 400 km. So, if you would buy a car with that battery two years ago the new model would already have almost twice as long range and you’d feel pretty stupid. But if you rent it I reckon they just change it and you get the new version.

The batteries don’t really expire as much as they did. The last few gens of batteries have life expectancies well above 10 years. The reason is that we have some understanding of what was actually killing the batteries (deep discharge etc.) and now we can prevent it. This is why five year old laptops have batteries that you don’t even know if they degraded or not.

>Is the future already here?
Maybe if the future is ugly as fuck,

The actual, real world range on these is about 60% of the claimed range.
>In the summer, with enough changes to use regeneriatve braking, the 240 model will do ~130km, the 400km will actually do about 220.
>Any temeprature below 20 degrees will reduce the range further.

>And there was a software update that reduced range for another 20km for a couple of months.
>also the Zoes have proven to be very unreliable
>Which in part is due to a HORRENDOUS build qualtiy
>not sure if these a electric car problems or just that Renault is shit.

It does accelerate quickly upt to about 60km/h though. So there's that

>Old time : Buy car, insurance and fuel
>Future : Buy car, insurance, electricity and rent battery

Future seems great !