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Maybe a support?

People will always shit their pants in anger over Fenix not being a zealot unit. Cuz muh nostalgia. And they'll be angry as fuck about Talandar too.

Protoss could use another support maybe, but I dont see selendis being it; Maybe Preserver Rohanna but not Selendis. Tassadar fits as a support because in spite of being one of the most badass warriors to ever live (Zealot -> High Templar -> Dark templar -> Void adept) he was basically Protoss Gandhi, not afraid of violence when it was necessary but preferring alternate means (and the only time he *really* felt violence was necessary was against the zerg). Fun fact they actually wanted to use a Dark Templar as the base unit for tass in sc1 briefly. He was a super-mentor character and often took a more passive / supporting role rather than a direct one. Part of the reason that Artanis turned out so great is because Tassadar mentored him (and fenix).

Turning Rohanna into a support would be a super-stretch too though.

So I'm gonna level TLV to 5. Should I buy a stimpack? I imagine it'll be a horrible experience without.

if team is smart: split for xp while they get kills
if team is pubtards: group vikings up and have fun

prepare to get flamed and blamed for every single misery in their life

You really want to play with at least one friend who will play a tank. That way you can tell your team to 4-man roam following said tank, while you practice your three lane soak, mercenary timings, and viking rotations based on objectives.

>teammate calls me out for not being at objective fights
>I'm lost vikings

w e w

should always send olaf for objectives

Erik perma-stalls objectives unless they dedicate at least one person with good denial/poke or 2+ people to keep you away.
Post 16, Vikings do a shit ton of damage with spin-to-win, and Olaf stun can make up for having a shitty tank who doesn't know how to initiate if you suspect the game will finish before 20.

so how would you like to see them do a Hybrid character?

Wouldnt. Would rather reserve it as a map mechanic.

Possibly for a crazy map like Overmind vs Old God (Yogg-Saron / C'thun)

What, like Multi-Class? What do you mean?

at most a skin theme for another character or two, possibly Diablo

I really REALLY like this slut.

no as in these guys

Stukov, Protoss edition

Why are Tychus's heroics so shit? Beam has terrible range and no health, while the other is more for waveclear and pushing towers than teamfights.

Pic gives a good point: "at least it's not facebook"

>It's another "5-Stack Plays Against A Team of Soloqueues" episode

I can't believe this faggotry is still allowed. Really loving the fact they seem to sit around and play with their dicks and not lift a single fucking finger to try and improve ANY mode in this game. Won't fix 5-stacking against solo queues, won't allow swaps in HL, won't add map vetos, won't even make Brawl's worthwhile because one fucking box is nothing.

These fucking assholes do absolutely nothing to legitimately improve the game itself outside of some "balancing" here and there.

>won't allow swaps in HL
what really
why

>Why are Tychus's heroics so shit?
WHAT? WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?

Fucking. What!? Tychus' heroics are *great*. Laser drill has a ton of range and can easily be used to zone or siege against a team that cant easily get to it. It's also an instant-cast that creates unpathable terrain, when used smartly you can prevent people from getting to you. You can also just target it on the support and make them go "oh shit I dont want to be near this".

Odin turns your short range tank shredder into a much longer range durable heavy hitter (gaining a bunch of armor and a lot of range). You also get fucking amazing aoe abilities too.

Both of tychus' ultimates are utility oriented and both of them are quite powerful. Laser drill at level 10 will if targeted on a fort for its full 22 second duration do 202 dps, or 4444 total damage; which is about 40% of the forts 11250 hp. At level 20 without upgrade it does 287 damage per second, or about 6300 damage. With upgrade it goes up to ~575 dps, or about 12500 damage (not quite sure how long it takes to hit damage cap so it's probably about 1000 damage lower than that actually) which is close to 90% of a keeps 14300 hp.

The core itself only has 22000 HP (and 11000 shields) at minute 20, so laser drill can do a significant portion of that too.

So overall. Fuck off you're wrong.

>well done... things are about to get GRAVE

Why is the Grave Keeper such a gigantic nerd?
No wonder the Raven Lord wants him to fuck off ASAP

Li Ming needs better skins, so does Slyvanas.

Lots of people do actually.

Blizz make more mecha skins, shit like Space Lord Leoric and Mecha Dehaka are cool as fuck.

i wont rest until every character has a robotic voice filter

No idea. The mechanic exists and has for a while. You can hero swap in custom games. It probably wouldn't take any effort to implement it in HL.

The whole draft interface needs to be reworked IMO. The coin toss at the start is like super low-res and has no anti-aliasing. We're getting to the point where 3 bans isn't out of the question. The windows on your team should really display the character name before they're locked in. I know you can mouse over it, but some skins really look like other characters.

Mecha zul jin when

>I have opened a tunnel that leads to the center

>WHAT!?!?! SAME!

Towers of Doom is the best map

>Best Aesthetic
>Best Gimmick
>Comebacks possible
>Three lanes
>Fun announcer interaction

four lane map inc. next month

its literally the worst map in the game.

lol

Well this guy is basically Rubrick and he's a pretty good character even though Blizzard couldn't make his ultimate work with their horrible spaghetti code perversion of the SC2 engine.

So he's got the levitate which is a fire and forget stun and you can get a talent that lets you throw people with impact damage if they hit a wall or slam it back down as an aoe stun/slow.
Then the blink. Maybe a talent that lets you take nearby allies for the ride.
Lightning zap is pretty boring but whatever. Give it a bounce or a slow or channel like emperor palpatine for big damage.
Trait is that passively a percentage of the damage you deal turns into health but you only start to recover once you're considered out of combat. Activate it to mind control all the creeps within the aoe.

First ultimate lets you choose a respawn location and the next time you die you revive in 16 seconds. But if the enemy finds your respawn spot and destroys it you have to eat the full duration.
Next ultimate increases your "lifesteal" further and lets you share it with an ally or deal damage over time to an enemy.

Towers of Doom and Hanamura are the worst sacks of shit in this game.

The ONLY sacks of shit actually, I like every other map just fine. Even Tomb of the Spider Queen grew on me, that used to be the only map I hated before Towers.

>Liking haunted mines and braxis

wew

>play TLV
>get 2 lane map

stop this I just want to be useful. It doesn't help for some reason there's almost always a Nova ready to fuck up my lone Viking before I can get him away, I know they don't give that much xp on death but its still annoying

Why do female protoss looks so smooth and soft? I want to touch one.

Their skin is scaly, males and females are muscular lanky and 'bony', their heads have large boney ridges.

They wont live up to expectation user.

>Female protoss
Can those aliens even be female? I see those "femine" protoss characters like selendis or vorazun only as ladyboys if they can be male in first place since I assume they don't even have genitals as such

I see a lot of people hating on Tower of Doom but it's not that bad. It's kind of like a worse dragon shire.
But Braxis is still god awful especially in QM because some characters are really phenominal at dealing with zerg and other teams just kind of have to roll over and die because they just can't fight back or you get stuck with shitty early game characters in a map that can end in the first push.
And haunted mines is still my least favorite. You kind of want to get a golem because that's the objective but it's probably the single worst boss in the whole game. It's attacks are boring and shitty and even a 100 skull golem will die without your intervention as long as both your turrets are still alive.

Xul is not only a bad hero, he's also fucking boring.

>more than 3

>4 lanes
I am sure Chogall + Abathur team will have a lot of fun there

First for Demon Hunters wear C-String Pantsu.

Protoss are a proud and noble race. They are not for touching.

i want a grave keeper and ravenlord cho'gall skin

>malthael still not nerfed
>hanamura still not removed

Is there a chance we get a 3 lane map without an objective?

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That would be toxic.
I think one of the reasons there are objectives on every map, on top of the other obvious reasons, is so that games end faster so if it's a pure hero-vs-hero game with 3 lanes, it's going to definitely turn into Dota or LoL except maybe slower because there are no items to farm.

that sound boring.

No, because then all the pros and everyone else would only want to play it, leaving us in the League/DOTA situation where there is only one map.

>mfw arthas was right tho

I think I realise why the majority of everybody in existance except myself and literally 12 other people seem to hate Hanamura. It's because the vast majority of the community are Nazebo mains. All they do is pick Naz, have their safe lanning phase, play their ez mode baby hero, whenever they get ganked go "team?" or "..." and never show up to objectives. They hate hanamura and towers of doom because their afksplitpush and wait for the team to clean up 4v5 strat doesn't work on those maps as effectively. They actually have to participate in a game and because they lack map awareness, positioning and in general not knowing how to play they just lose and get frustrated.

i hear a lot that tlv are great for objectives but i just cant wrap my head around it. erik and baleog don't fare well against creeps on mines, garden, and end up dying when there's at least one person parked on the objective on braxis.

on warhead i can see them being useful when there's more than 2 nukes out

Hanamura is my favorite map to autistically push a lane in. Too bad the next patch will make nerf that.

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Nothing beats the chef version.

m-more?

Has any one gotten any of the prizes from the lottery shit yet?

No.

They hate hanamura because you are rewarded for ignoring the objective and smashing lanes. The objective in hanamura doesn't go away if you ignore it (unlike in towers of doom where the opposing team can take it). It doesn't give experience or tangible advantage for taking it (eg sky temple, braxis, battlefield or cursed hollow) Camps aren't worth doing (unless for cursory bribe experience). Destroying forts makes your objective permanently stronger, gives you experience that can snowball you above your opponents. Destroying *keeps* gives a permanent push and potential core damage to a lane.

There's no real reason to contest opponents from pushing instead of just autistically pushing lanes in. Combine that with the map being 'too short' (its unusual to hit level 20 talents) and wildly snowbally currently and you have a great reason to hate the map.

It's a horribly poorly designed map. The single best strategy is to trash both lanes, make your two turnins then do boss and either win off of that, or win off of sappers pushing in.

>TLV are less effective on two lane maps

you don't say?

GLAD YOU COULD MAKE IT ARTHAS

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Wait, destroying a fort affects all carts? I figured it was just the next one. That's pretty fucking stronk.

>people rage because i only split my vikings 1 / 2. (2 in one lane the other solo)

get fucked, it works. meme splitting if fcuking annoying anyways, I thought Blizzard's philosophy was to play heroes how you want them to be played? Why the fuck are TLV forced to split every game?

fucking kek why is this a thing

While sprays have become an acceptable BM method in addition to B-stepping, voice lines are still pretty bad.
Since 2.0 launched I think ive used them less than 10 times and I dont even bother changing them in the loadouts anymore. Atm the volume is too low and theres too big of a delay in between usage.
Just off the top of my head, I think increasing the volume and letting us spam them (within reason) would make them more fun. If its really problematic just add a way to squelch voice lines.
In overwatch some of the ways I like being a piece of shit is when playing D.Va to spam the L O L voice line when something funny happens for example.

I get that too. I have to explain to the team in very small words that I need two Vikings in the bottom lane to deal with the enemy specialist, especially when those fucks keep ignoring my pings for help.
Besides, I usually have one Viking up top, two down below, and the rest of the team roiling around in the middle lane, failing at 4v3 fights.

I blame Jaina

It only affects one. But with 4 dead forts/keeps, thats 5 shots. You have two turnins to account for, so that's another +1 shot (for 6) and as the core only has 7 hp, you only need one sapper or the boss to win.

It's a shit map.

Because was a huge, poignant moment in Arthas' development, paving the way to his fall from grace far better than the prequel trilogy ever did for Anakin.

Does Ragnaros have any kind of role in the meta at this point? Feels like they've just constantly beaten his numbers into the dust to the point I feel like I'm almost throwing picking him

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He's situational, based a lot on the map. But I still get by great with him when I have a good tank. Otherwise he's just a big orange target.
But he still has multiple viable builds even if he's not the total wrecking ball he once was.

Looked like green Schwarzwald from Big O for a second.
Who just so happened to be voiced by Uther.
youtu.be/sHChe6KY0DQ

>post yfw next week and you have to decide between first banning malthael or first banning stukov

Oh yeah, and Rexxar was Roger Smith.

he makes matches last 5 times longer with his bullshit wave clear move.

>when you're sololane and all your teammates just fucking die in a midfight over nothing

stop this, you don't even need to last hit minions how the fuck do people die while soaking.

thicc

I see this happen a lot when shitter see the enemy at low health and tunnel vision on that and ignore the healer and tank and towers and minions all around them and think they're going to be a hero by getting that gank, even at the cost of their own life.

When?

>Won't live up to expectations
Nice try, you just want them all to yourself

how does glogan win games? i dont get it.

i've had teammates get tilted by him on the opposite team, and when on my team. its the weirdest thing i've ever fucking seen.

just the fact that this guy exists tilts the fuck out of everyone

abathur skin

>glogan exists
>people still think you can't climb
Dude is literally a moron and he's up there.
Fucking instalose whenever his MMR gets high enough to go against decent players.

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I'm stuck in Gold every season but I'm better than Glogan. I'm just in mmr hell. My teammates are always throwing. I just get unlucky. Glogan sucks but I am better. It's just the flawed blizzard mmr system.

>tfw stuck in gold 1
>cant get into plat because cant win 2 games in a row.

>tfw just play QM and dont give a fuck about ranked
Fun things are fun.

Game is hard.

Maybe people just overestimate their survivability and damage at lv 1 because they forgot how it's like to be under lv 20. So they sit there thinking "I can tank this" or "I can take this" and then get shocked that they didn't. At least these mistakes are (usually) made at lv 1 when first blood exp doesn't matter that much.