What's The Best Power adder?

Super. Easier to bolt-on.

Super for hooning around town, turbos for the track.

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For maximum power, yes, but for a given power level it's preference.

To add onto this: every single power adder can make too much power for road applications these days, you can even do that with the right n/a engine. All of them have glaring problems.
>Turbo's either lag or kill topend power
>Nitrous blows up engines
>Conventional superchargers are inefficient power drains
>Centrifugal superchargers suck at being a turbo and a blower
>Naturally aspirated gets no gainz

>Turbos give you a midrange shove in the back
>PD blowers have tireshaking torque at 0 RPM
>Nitrous is boost on a button
>N/a and centrifugals make you chase redlines

So, if you can pick one form of building your engine, raw power does not matter. The differences in practical purpose are so minor, you can just pick the style you like, and then go online to shitpost about how your power adder>everybody else's power adder.

However, I will give you bonus points for unconventional setups. Nitrous on an Italian roadster, turbo's on a V-ate, centrifugals on a motorcycle or PD blowers on a rotary, that kind of stuff makes my dick hard.

>roots/twin screw
>power drains
Sure they sap some power, but you gain FAR MORE than you lose.

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The problem with superchargers is that they take power from the crank, and use it to compress the intake. Positive displacement blowers are inefficient, and thus draw more power to compress the intake air. They're also harder for air-air intercooling (with the exception of twin scrolls/G-lader). On a single bank engine, like an I4 or I6, a PD blower doesn't make a lot of sense.

The only place where a PD blower ''belongs'' is without any intercooler, in the middle of a big V8. Even better if it's got dual quads on top of it, whose raw fuel atomisation keeps the whole thing cool.

My problems with Roots/twin screw blowers is that they're inefficient, not just that they draw power. My main point there was that every single power adder has it's downsides. Second point was that every power adder also has a unique power delivery (call it character), and PD blowers excell at that.

Is this even possible?

Anything’s possible if you believe

I like vtec and I have vtec, but for a performance car you should probably just have big cams, vtec has no purpose

How about I variably suck your dick?

Jet engine in the back of a van

>Not using a Twin-Turbo, Twin-Scroll Supercharged V12 2JZ-GTE

Shaking my head to be hones family

Most automakers like Ford and Toyota use some type of variable valve timing. It's not unique anymore.

If you want to win...
With a good engine, and a really good tune... Nitrous.

>what are high RPMs

Its not just the timing, it changes how far they open with a separate camshaft profile.

>not using compressed air

hotrod.com/articles/compressed-air-supercharging/

also reminder supercharging is fucking trash

how does it feel to be retarded?

vtec has variable lift you cumrag

Use all three on an AWD vehicle, and also install a misfaiaringu shistemu system for the ultimate car!

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>lol turbo lag
>on a track

Turbo lag doesn’t matter if you never go under 5k.

Also, if he’s American, track might just mean drag strip.

As far as racing goes, turbo is really only good on a drag strip. Too much heat on a road coarse

>turbo's on a V-ate
People the world over are turboing LS and Coyote engines. There's nothing unusual about it.

twincharged baby

>namefag talking out of his ass

Yep

so just add NOS to a Lancia Delta S4?

>Turbo's either lag or kill topend power

No

Electric motors

batteries add too much weight, if th ey where powered by a kinectic recovery type turbo/starter/dynamo it would be cool

Then explain this

Turbos all day. Something about being able to use waste to make power makes me horny.

Probably why everything I own is turbocharged now. Forcibly.

I definitely think what F1 is doing with KERS, electric turbos, thermoelectrics, etc. is really cool, but you're looking at hundreds of thousands of dollars for the equipment itself. Especially if you're talking about ADDING power (you already have a car) there is no fucking way you're going to do a hybrid conversion, or actually implement electric recovery systems in any meaningful way. For now turbos are probably the best in general, superchargers are fine if you're making a shitload of torque, compressed air etc. is only really useful for 0-60, quarter mile, or top speed runs.

Yeah, nowadays, with modern fuel injected setups. Carbed turbo V8's are my fetish though.

Yes.
If your compressor/turbine is properly sized for good throttle response and low lag at low to medium, it is restrictive in the high RPM range.
If your compressor/turbine is properly sized for high flow at high RPM, then it won't be responsive.
Turbo's have their downsides, as does any power adder, it's all about finding solutions to them, and minimising the effects.

It's a fucking f1 car. Their engines are specially designed to be as light as fucking possible and they use them for 1 race then throw it out. They're trying their hardest to get the most performance out of it because the more efficient they are the more likely they'll win

Fun fact: F1 cars got about 180kg heavier in the last years, mostly because of the batteries (not included in that 140kg weight you posted).

Even then, those batteries aren't enough to be a reliable power adder. They're still pretty small, which means they need to be recharged often. That's great when you're on a racetrack, with a lot of hard braking, but useless on the street.

How's twincharging?