RX8 thread

Post your storys, experiences and info on this rotary goodness of a car
RX7's also acceptable

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This could just be a rotary general we had one a while back it was güd
>pic related
My 84 rx7

stories*

I need a new car and there are 3 rx8's near me and in my price range. Convince me to buy or not to buy.

>taking bread on hood seriously

Well the question is do you know jack about rotarys and would commit yourself into keeping it alive and know all the issues like the airbag and the front suspension as well as carbon build up?

I know a little about the rotary. Like to add premix. Rev the shit out of it. Let it warm up/cool off. And of course
>check the fuel and refill the oil
Not much about the rx8 itself.

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Wew its cheap but here in Australia its minimum $5000 aud. A good condition one starts at $6500 aud at around 130k miles.

How likely/often is the engine to give out on a used car even when adding oil to the gas?

Seriously considering this as my first car and DD. I heard it shouldn't be used for short trips though. Would I be better off with a NA Miata than a rx-8?

It's stolen, that's why it's so cheap. It's popped up multiple times in different places.

Most RX-8's pre 2008 usually go for around 2000-4000 US dollary doos.

Don't cop a tanga for your first car. Get the na.

I had two SA RX-7s.
The first was a 1908 gold 4-speed, left-hand-drive. It handled amazingly well- you could toss it around on a winding mountain rod and have little fear of losing it. At the extreme limit it tended to understeer right off the road, as it only had 20560R13s.

The second one was a yellow 1979 Savanna, 5 speed right-hand drive that had been a factory turbo car, then the 12A turbo was replaced with a stock 12A. It had a higher-rate steering box, and was spring a lot stiffer then my 1980. It was kinda sketchy to drive fast, as it tended to skip around from high spot to high spot.

They drive like a go-kart for the street- very direct steering for what amounts to economy car components. Coming around a corner in 2nd gear where you can romp on it and see the tach needle sweep past 4,000 prm is really fun.

depends how it's been treated by PO, a rebuild will give you a fresh start for the mostpart.

I haven't had any troubles other than flooding on cold starts, and I'm sure the EFI rotaries are much less prone to flooding than my carbd 12a. Short trips aren't particularly bad for the car as long as you let it warm up sufficiently; however that may require some forethought.

Get the Miata. Even if you treat it right, rotary vehicles are terrible daily drivers. You're correct about short trips. Running the engine for a brief amount of time will cause premature problems if done repeatedly, especially if you don't rev the shit out of it. Rotaries need to be driven hard at some point on every trip in order to prevent intrusive carbon build-up.

>however that may require some forethought
Eh not really. I just used to race up and down my street a few times before pulling into the shed.

I dont think i ever would have belived you owned this peice of shit if it werent for the bread as proof.

I got one with a flooded engine for 1k, ported it, drove the dogshit out of it, then sold it to some faggot who broke it a week later
Rx8/8 m8

>Convince me to buy or not to buy.
Eve Mazda shut down their rotary department because of how shit they were. There is your reason not to buy.

If you know how to maintain the car and have a strict oil and premix topping off schedule. What could go wrong? I mean besides the rotor losing compression.

>not taking bread on hood seriously

I've wanted to pick one up and nip it up a bit.

Gang gang gang gang

Gang gang gang gang gang gang gang gang

My only interaction with an RX-8 owner was his claim of a 2,000HP motor in his car could not show anyone. Refused to race, flooded engine upon leaving. Never saw again

Got my 04 w 82k miles now it's got 126k miles, it's got a dead starter, killed the cat, Broken water hoses and plenty of dings and old car noises, engine still good but idk how well the compression is holding up, though im not getting signs of it going bad. I don't premix for shit but im on top of that oil and water.

This dude stabbed a kidnapped toddler to death a day ago in Finland.

He drove a RX8, those will always be remembered as the black kid stabber cars in Finland. Just like red jaguar XJRs have a bad reputation.

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I tested out the LSD on my car today to make sure it still works right, feels funky sometimes. Seems to work well
>pic related
Y-you too
I want to get that sticker but I don't think anyone will get the e machines reference lol
The only way you'd make 2,000hp from a rotary would be if it's a 4 rotor peripheral port running an ungodly amount of boost and nitrous. No possible way to do it with 1.3 liters of compression.

I want an rx7 so badly and I have ever since I was a kid. Whats some shit to look for when buying one used? Does anyone have any tips on maintaining it besides what said?

>Suomalia
>relevant

GANG GANG GANG GANG GANG

>RX8
>RX7

Oh, you dropped these

13b series 4 turbo, aluminum flywheel, exert clutch, Gslse lsd and final gear, eldelbrock 50 shot nitrous, Summit racing cdi box, accel spark plug wires. 10.5psi of boost

pretty much all you need to know about an rx8 to own one desu

i got mine knowing nothing about rotarys and despite what most people say they are extremely fun and reliable engines if you take good care of them

So I found an rx8 with ~80k miles but the owner said he hasn't added premix, only that he's used premium fuel. Would I still need to worry about the engine giving out soon? Could I just start adding premix now, or would the seals be facing wear too much wear to bother?

Stay away

Never actual drove one but I always see them unregistered on peoples front lawns with a $5000-$10,000 cardboard sign on the window. The motors must be cunts to rebuild.

Bought mine for under 2k with a blown engine, spent about a year fixing it. Now I have it working and it is the most glorious car I have ever known.

>9k rpm redline
>Muffler delete exhaust sounds like pure racecar
>Not stupid fast, but plenty of power for mostly legal speeds
>JDM engine with lightened flywheel and race clutch, shifting is perfect
>Watch everyone who tries to drive it stall and laugh at them
I stall too, but shhhhh
>Handling is beyond what this world allows by the laws of physics
>Absolutely humiliated a C7 Corvette in the touge like it was nothing
>Fixing something every weekend, it is still a high maintenance car
>Give RX-8 lots of attention, get everything I could ask of a car in return
I figure it's a fair trade, if you like commitment this is absolutely the car for you.

>not stupid fast
>absolutely humiliate corvette
?????

I don't like how later Rx8 looked, too much plastic upfront

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fucking cute mate have some morals

>craigslist special
>portwork on an msp
>abuse it
>unload it when rear rotor is on 70psi
dude is a scumbag indeed

Compression was good when he bought it
He went from 4th to 3rd instead of 5th :)

Is it still worthwhile buying the older rotaries? Or are the newer ones a better purchase, I love the old school styling, but dont mind the new ones either.

Would have to sell my bullet proof celica to buy. I commute to work on motorbike, use car for other stuff.

Don't sell your reliable Celica for some rotary piece of shit.
Save up money and buy a BMW or something actually redeeming if you want a car to drive hard/work on

You're right, I dont really have the time to play around with cars and bikes anymore. As much as I love the rx7 i'm going to be way better off with something else.

Wow. If it's in good shape would be worth banging out the dents and painting.

premix is not essential

as long as he regularly tops off and changes the oil and uses nothing but premium its probably fine

>buy a bmw
Please don't do this

Anything with an I6 is leagues better and more reliable than some rotary junk
But let me guess somehow in all of your lack of experience you know better?

Probs wont be a BMW, something with an i6 would be amazing. 370z is pretty appealing. In Aus so my options arent as good as america

they are extremely easy compared to piston engines

>on the touge

only buy a rew if you're a committed rotary autist

buy a renesis that was made after 2006 if you aren't

Sorry for the dumb question, but would that do absolutely nothing?
Sure, you can lunch a piston engine doing that by eating valves and shit, but I was under the impression a Rotary's rev limiter was entirely due to loss of efficiency

Bullshit.

3 moving parts
Everything just slots in
It's like a sandwich, you have the top and bottom buns and then you stuff it with what you want
If you're really hungry you can go for a double decker

confirmed for never owning a rotary

Why they stall? The clutch is too heavy?

Why are there so many rx8 fucked engine specials then?

Literally no torque.
The engine is complete dogshit, especially the one in the 2004 model. Nobody knows how to work on them and doesn't want to, so they stay expensive to own and maintain if you are not doing it by yourself.

>mechanics don't know how to do it
>but they're extremely easy compared to piston engines

Those 2 have almost no relation.

M8. If it was as easy as you make it out to be, there wouldnt be so many cheap rx8s with blown engines.

It's an engine which was in the grand total of 3 cars ever
Many mechs have never heard of it

>many mechanics have never heard of a rotary
I hope you're joking, my man.

Check compression and start saving for a rebuild.

do you really believe this is
Don't believe the memes those carbuerated 12a's will go for 200,000+ miles
My 13b is at 126,000 miles and pulls like new. I expect it to go for a long time desu
It's true m9

At idle an RX-8 makes approximately 1/2 foot pound of tourqe, mine has almost no flywheel inertia to compensate, and the aftermarket clutch does nothing until it all engages over much less than an inch. The slightest mistake either sends the revs to 9000 or stalls it dead on the spot.

You would also expect your housings to be unusable after that mileage

I personally pull my 12a down every 50,000kms for a freshen up and i am still on my original set of housings

Even jet engines get wrecked if you overrev them enough, rotaries can get damaged with overreving but it's probably not a catastrophic failure (apex seals get overloaded and overheat, walls may get scored, acessories tied to the belt break, etc.)

false, expect the apex seals to contact the housing surface at around 11,000rpm (ask me how i know) and gouge the shit out of them. Unless you're running 10a/early 12a twin dizzy with carbons then you MIGHT get away with it once or twice.

Lowkey wanna pull mine out and do ceramic seals, lighter s5 rotors, and redo all do some rad bridge port on my fb. But I'm torn because of I'm pulling the engine and doing all that work I might as well ?spend a little more and get a REW and swap that in. Supposedly the only thing you change is the wiring harnesses and maybe new engine mounts the ppl that do it all do it to 12a cars so idk. the engine fits perfectly.

Considering Ive had a modified rotary and you're just pipedreaming who "believes" what?

that's total overkill man, every 50k??? If you're taking proper care of the engine it should not need that much maintenance
t. previous fb and fc owner

ruined coils and plugs, but says it starts

wilmington.craigslist.org/cto/d/2004-mazda-rx-8-6-speed-fully/6383180113.html

Would any of you buy this? I'm considering but I'm also not too sure.

Looks like a good deal, get it inspected for collision under a lift and make sure he has documentation for rebuild

It looks a little too good to be true. Brand new everything basically for only 5500.

Worst case scenario transmission needs some work but that'll be easy to tell with a testdrive

Rx8 seems like a terrible but great car for what I want to do with it. Go to college in the middle of nowhere in the mountains. Always have something to do, plus curvy roads. Seems like a good idea.

Just know you'll have terrible mpg's on that commute, check the oil on every fill up

Yeah, my 06 mazda6s doesnt get much better mpg 18-24. But its a pretty far drive so i dont plan on driving home that often.

Look on yelp for a rotary specialist maybe he can do the pre purchase inspection with compression test

How come nobody says that the RX8 is gay when it has a face like that?

>I look for sexuality in cars

Anything with a face will have masculine or feminine features. Am i talking to an autist here?

No u

What's the best rotary to buy for a beginner?
Do I need a proper workshop for the maintenance?
What does flooding the engine mean? I am only familiar with the term when it comes to motorcycles with a lickstarter

If it's N/A then it's fine, turbo rotaries make unbelievable power but they struggle reliability wise, at least stock.
No, even if you rebuild the engine yourself you could do it on a bedsheet on your living room floor. Helps that they're small and light weight.
shouldn't have to worry about flooding unless you turn the car off before it warms up. Don't let valet faggots drive a rotary.

Carbuerated 12a's are quite reliable actually.

If I were to have an RX-8 engine rebuilt, how much of a hassle would removing the engine from the car be compared to swapping a NA Miata engine as my reference point?
The rotary engine sits pretty low and far back, so I fear it might be hard to get to.

Should be about as difficult as any modern car with a teeny tiny engine.

Today someone scratched all my rx8... for no reason im sad

Are you pretending to be retarded or like actually this dumb? I have talked to almost every mechanic in my town and literally over three-fourths of them have never heard of the dorito-on-a-stick engine.

jealousy, my friend