"American cars can't turn and are only good in straight lines!"

I'm not surprised, think of all the rural people who would never get involved in any sort of poll like that. Most people I know can drive manual.

>modified lap times
The entire Camaro costs less than the bodykit lmao. Sperg more.

patrickrhamey.com/saturday-research/2017/8/15/2017-state-of-world-liberty-index

read away pleb.

>land of the free, home of the brave
yeah nah, you're neither of those these days

Don't respond to /int/ leakage

>made by a single chucklefuck that can't even bother to capitalize the tabs on his own website
Nice source you got there

>laughs in legal M16

>kills 58 people with it

>gets rekt by an americunt made index
>cries and attacks the websites grammar

kek

merica summed up
>my guberment tells me i am free so i musd be!
>i ned guns incas my guberment coms fo' me and my chilluns. hyuck

>modified
not my problem GM can't bother upgrading their cars

now sperg more cuckold

>i'm so tough, this is AMERICA, best country on earth, land of the free, home of the brave
>oh shit its a black person
>5 bystanders dead (2 children)
>black person has a graze
>cops come
>shoot you because you had a gun (even though you're legally allowed to)
>shoots the black person because, well its what they do
>MERICA

Ready those cyanide pills

Soyboy detected

>not street legal

TOP KEK

>GM cucks spent years shitposting about the GTR Nismo N-Attack not being street legal(which is blatantly false)
>turns out GM already accepted the zr1 won't actually be street legal

utterly cuckolded, GM fangirls should just commit suicide

>GM soyboi gets his shit-tier thread deleted in an instant

top kek, serves you right soyboi

>Driving RX-8 on touge road
>Find C7 Corvette
>Follow it, it's driving pretty quick
>Starts crossing over lanes and getting slidy trying to lose me
>I'm still barely getting after it glued to this Corvette's tail.
>American cars can't turn

nobody says that except jdm fuckboys

>in europoor

who cares?

It's like an elitist, self hate that urbanites seem to have. We have a similar thing in Australia where people would shit on Australian produces cars and designate anyone who purchased them to bogan tier. I had some soy eating homo unironically shitting on my ve ss while he drove a focus.

>Australia number 3
>man charged with intentionally causing serious harm for non fatally shooting 1 of 4 African newfriends with bats and shit who had broken into his home.
>no bail hearing until mid January, so much spend Christmas in jail.
Yeah, nah. Your rating is probably shit, m8.

>ban a car because of bonnet height
Wat. Is it too high or too low?

>can privately import one anyway because these crash specifications only apply to officially offered production cars

who cares?

>sleeping in my house
>get shot
>drop kids of at primary school
>they get shot
>go to drop wifes kid at highschool
>he gets shot
>drive to work
>get shot
>go to the movies
>get shot
>go the shopping center
>get shot
>go to the movies
>get shot
>go to a concert
>get shot
>go the police
>get shot by the police
>go to hospital with 20 bullet wounds
>get shot
>get a hospital bill of $20,000,000 USD, hospital lawyers up to get the money
>shoot myself in the head to get it over with

nice c(o)untry m8, there are not many countries i would feel less safe visiting, than the USA. its on an aids and tribe plagued african level atm. i would feel safer in NK.

Not really relevant to freedom tho. You just have a 56% problem

Ill take things that didn't happen for $500.

Seriously I'm not Corvette shill but the RX8 is the slowest fucking turd I have ever driven.

We raced one in my uncle's fucking 2005 Tahoe and it raped it lol. Unless that thing is LS swapped there is no way you kept up with even an 90s Corvette of any model.

are you retarded?

you think randomly getting shot at all times, in all places, doesn't impact your freedom ranking? :/ lol you're a dumb cunt.

Why is it that everytime any American car is mentioned this board devolves into /pol/ /int/ pissing matches?

youtube.com/watch?v=ZZXs1Wz-5oM

because you crap on how good they are, yet you're they're shit.

just like your country. you yell and scream about how good it is, but its a shit hole.

Because Europeans and Australians automatically hate and get triggered by anything they can't afford or attain. Boasting about our freedom gets you people going which is always a good time.

Yes. Do you know what liberty means?

You think not being able to shoot back doesn't impact your freedom ranking?

Also I'm an American and have never even heard a gun shot at anywhere but a gun range. I conceal carry every day and stopped a robber with a knife.

Fuck off cuck.

the ranking was done by an american and an american university.

so keep crying.

just someone, from anyone of the 31 countries ranked above you, with more liberty, than you. enjoy your shit hole. i'll enjoy my freedoms.

LMAO "American University" yeah that pretty much discredits the entire thing right there.
Pack it up- lets go home boys.

In case you didn't know American Universities are run by cucks bent on being Europoor and submitting to Allah (a lot of them actually have converted to Islam no joke).

Because Americans are self absorbed shitheads who think they're right about everything and actually deserving of their irresponsibility and wastefulness. Things aren't automatically good ideas just because they're possible.

>be american government
>take away our citizens rights
>PEOPLE, YOU ARE THE MOST FREE ON EARTH, DON'T BELIEVE THE LIES
>takes away more rights and freedoms
>YOU'RE STILL MORE FREE THAN ANY OTHER COUNTRY. LOOK AT NORTH KOREA, WOW SO BAD

and you guys believe it. every. time. probably more hollywoods fault i guess, constantly spouting how free and great you are, blinding you to how much your country has plummeted in every aspect except incarceration rates and military spending. (fyi, look at nations who also excel at those two things and see the company you're in)

well that just sums it up doesn't it.

when the population thinks higher education is a joke you know the country is doomed.

Not enough crush space between hood and supercharger, it's a pedestrian safety thing.

The front splitter winglets are also sharper than is legal in the EU.

>American university
So it was done by a jew who thinks that liberty means being able to rob a house without fear of being shot?

The State of World Liberty Index was a ranking of countries according to the degree of economic and personal freedoms that their citizens enjoy. It was a compilation of several similar indices created by other organizations. The index's original author Nick Wilson defined freedom as "the ability for the individual to live their lives as they choose, as long as they do not infringe on the rights of others to do the same."

Sounds pretty cucked.
OK. You give me an example of a persons liberty being infringed upon in America that's not done in Australia. The only one I can think of is abortion and I'm 90% sure it's not actually banned in the United States.

universal health care (it works, don't believe fox news)
not paying 6 figure sums to go to university
not getting shot randomly for no reason
better leave from work (holiday, pregnancy etc)
better working conditions
better minimum wage

thats just off the top of my head.

I live in a country with public healthcare
Also not one of these metrics is related to liberty if anything they reflect a higher tax rate and taxation is the opposite of liberty.

if you can't see how job security relates to liberty then you're a moron
if you can't see how having the knowledge that your child won't die because you don't have insurance, or even the right insurance, relates to liberty, you're a moron
if you can't see how getting paid a fair wage, with fair amounts of time off, relates to liberty, you're a moron.
if you can't see how everybody having the chance to get a better education, relates to liberty, you're a moron.

you're right m8, having the chance to live the life i want, without being shat on by companies and randomfuckwits is definitely a life of someone living in a dictatorship.

Australia is actually pretty similar to the US, minus the guns. Anglo countries all have the same illnesses, even the European-like UK does.

I'm am not a libertarian, m8. I just telling you what it means. Yes, free shit leads to a nicer life, but a nice life doesn't mean you have liberty. Also you should try living in a country with public healthcare.
Australia is much more in for the nanny state than burgers

>hey we have a hundred million people continually stuck in the lower class because every way out of it is inaccessible to them, but at least they can freely buy guns to shoot themselves, now that's what I call real liberty

i do, and its works great. its not free, we pay for it with tax and loans from the government. it does mean more liberty, more freedom to choose what career i choose, more freedom to live my life, as i choose.

if you're a poor american, you're fucked. proper fucked. you get a cut, it gets infected? by by finger. you're poor and you want an education? LOL just kys.

america is less free, because if you're born in a bad situation, the odds are HEAVILY stacked against you. in other countries, that is not the case, the odds may be against you, but not as much as the good ol' usa where you're options are pretty much military or jail if you're born in a shit situation. sounds like liberty to me, military or jail. ^___^

australia is more nanny state, and yet it ranks much higher on personnel liberty index and 3-4 of its capital cities rank in the top 10 for most livable.

australia has guns, just not automatics and semi automatics. we don't need protection from randoms, and when we go hunting, we can actually aim, we don't need 30 7.62 bullets to take down a deer.

ALL BOW BEFORE YOUR MASTER.

Go and ask a libertarian what liberty actually means
Best example I can think off is post revolutionary America
>no food if you fuck up your crops
>break a leg and die
>don't cut any firewood, freeze to death
>get killed by Indians
But
>little taxes
>representation in governance
>personal freedom
While you'd be better off living in socialist 1980s Sweden, you'd have more liberty living in post revolutionary America

well that summed it up a lot quicker than i did, ha.

That's what I'm saying. The personal liberty index isn't actually measuring liberty
>Australia has guns
We do, but not for the purpose of self defence

Wow I can't believe the driver literally had zero impact on how fast a car can go through a course
Oh wait no, that's the opposite of how that works you fucking retards.

Liberty is not just about what to do this afternoon, it's about what to do with your life, and accordingly it includes metrics such as safety from harm beyond your control, career stability and social mobility, all of which the US absolutely fail at. One liberty can destroy another liberty, and those liberties that protect other liberties are the most important. In other words a slightly lower tax burden is worthless if a major illness can still financially ruin you.

pic related. rock climbing accident, broken neck, back etc

too bad if you get in a decent car crash.

>when you're driving in your meme car and soccer mum runs a red and rams you

RIP your house
RIP your car
RIP your life

>but at least i have a low tax rate!!!1!

Show me a definition that supports this. Liberty is 100% about personal freedoms. Anarco capitalism would be shit to live under but is the only way to have absolute liberty

>expecting a country that can't even run it self right to make a car right

setting yourself up for a let down.

Bad but not an example of having your liberties infringed upon.
Tell me, m8. Last time you needed a doctors note for work, did you pay a private doctor $90 or did you wait in outpatients for 5 hours?

i rang up at 8am, booked the appointment. played computer games then and left my house at 10:15, arrived at 10:25, went up to the desk, checked in, sat around until 10:40 (they're always running late), at 10:40 got called in, said i had the flu, he gave me a cert and i walked out, paid nothing.

not even lying.
>ausfag

HOW ABOUT YOU ALL FUCK OFF BACK TO /int/ HUH? BECAUSE THIS SHIT AIN'T Veeky Forums!

is it fringing on a persons liberty to deny them treatment because they can't afford it or they're at the wrong hospital for their insurance company? because that happens in the USA.
i assume you've seen Sicko, that michael moore garbage? when the black kid died because she went to the nearest hospital and not her insurers one?
doesn't sound like liberty to me.

>this entire thread

but it does, see

At outpatients?
No. That isn't related to liberty. If anything, requiring the hospital to perform work without compensation is against liberty

the liberty to be denied the right to live

good country m8

I'm an Australian. I've never even been to burgerland. Also in a society with full liberty, there would be no right to medical treatment. You may not like it, but that's what pure liberty looks like.

why would go to outpatients to get a certificate for work? lol i went to a doctors and paid nothing.

if you go to outpatients to get a certificate for work, you're 1, a fucking moron and wasting doctors time and 2, you're probably well enough to go to work

So you're a neet with a healthcare card

he State of World Liberty Index was a ranking of countries according to the degree of economic and personal freedoms that their citizens enjoy.

>economic and personal freedoms that their citizens enjoy.

> defined freedom as "the ability for the individual to live their lives as they choose, as long as they do not infringe on the rights of others to do the same."

defined freedom as "the ability for the individual to live their lives as they choose, as long as they do not infringe on the rights of others to do the same."

if they changed the name to international freedom index, would that shut you up? you cunts are arguing like we're trying to write the dictionary meaning for liberty.

as this person said,
all this arguing changes nothing. USA is a shit hole now, and its getting worse. USA has like 2 cities in the top 50 most dangerous in the world.
Australia has 4 or so in the top10 most livable.

but yeah, go USA, BEST COUNTRY ON EARTH WOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>neet
>needing a doctors certificate for work

i don't you know what that word means

People haven't believed this meme since the C5 Z06, it's just an IRL shitpost at this point

Go and read the dictionary definition of liberty or the core values of libertarianism.
Nigga, a full time minimum wage worker breaks the healthcare card limit. I used to break it when I was a uni student

i'll repeat it.
>if they changed the name to international freedom index, would that shut you up?

No. I'll shut up when they stop equating personal safety with liberty

then start emailing the virginian uni that does it you pleb?

i bet you're fun to work with.

>REEEEE FREEDOM AND LIBERTY ARE DIFFERENT REEEEEEEEEEEEE

Nah, I'd rather just correct people who use the word incorrectly
>freedom and liberty are different
Not really, but if you want to discuss it go to /pol/