/fhg/ For Honor General

oos meta edition

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I guess for Honor

Is not A GONER

Reminder chip damage changes have nothing on stamina changes

Mordhau will blow this game out of the god damn water.

I hope the big announcement next week is fanservice.

I hope they let you parry when oos. Imagine going up against a raider and cent in dominion.

share and r8 your cute mains

i'm pretty sure that they'll change it back

They already said "Don't run out of stamina, idiot"

They want OOS to equal death now.

>mfw no ad mortem
>ever again

I just wanna start by saying this is the best looking Lawbringer of all time.

>duel against an oroshi
>first round he ledges me and wins
>second round he runs straight towards the ledge and stays there
>i kill him
>third round he runs straight towards the ledge and stays there
>i cancel his guard break
>he quits

what did he mean by this

>heavy and light parries now reward the same thing
>we may be given AD MORTEM every parry

>People don't realize that orochi will now have the strongest parry damage in the game bar whatever they're doing with lawbringer with a 32 damage top light

Centurion in a close second with a 600 ms 25 damage heavy. Great turtle killer guys.

>beat a conq on ps4
>stays next to ledge next round
>interrupt his gbs with lights until his back is to the edge
>tech his gb
>he falls to his death
the poor defeated bastard didn't even "wow"

I doubt it will be guaranteed.

holy shit I just realized Orochi's parry is STILL strictly better than her deflect while every other assassin's deflect has been buffed to be better than a parry

they both give heavy punish, or both give light punish?

>not having clean armor
>not having alkirk armor with tical hands
>not having either paisley1 or paisley 2 on every piece with no paint
>not having the seashore color on the standards
>not having simple symmetrical designs in the standards
>not having the axe blade ornament
>not playing on 4k

they both give heavy punish without gbs
let me dream

They said they're changing light parries to give the rewards currently given to heavy parries, minus guaranteed GB. So that seems unlikely.
Unless they neuter AD MORTEM's damage and speed it up significantly, at which point they've instead removed any use for the light riposte. The whole thing's going to take a ton of reworking to a lot of characters anyways, but LB probably more than most.

>spikes everywhere
>essylid blade
how about no
Hydra is probably his best default uniform if you're just going to pick one and leave it alone though.

They both give heavy, minus guaranteed GB.

>still having the fucking nobright arms
at least it's no emmie, right guys?

>not having clean armor

I'll show you clean

DEV STREAM FUCKING WHEN?

It just ended like, 20 minutes ago.

Still like silver better for the french aesthetic.

Too slow, sandraker, you missed it.

What about PK?

>mordhau shills raped
>Roman and his POWER point
>some ok and nice changes
>worry for OOS tomfoolery
>orochi is now in the ground
>PTS SOON!!
You PC people are spoiled on upcoming stuff, lucky!
I'd say we had an ok stream, hopefully more good stuff down the line.

that's a nice clean armor, i prefer to have paisley with knights.

Bash the fash, amirite?

pk deflect is 30 bleed that chains into a second light, strictly better than parry

>Still like silver better for the french aesthetic.
Seconded.

Missed the stream, can anyone give me the rundown please? I'm guessing they didnt announce the new characters

30, really? That's nice, I thought it was only 20.

Problem with Paisley on Lawman is that it only covers the whole shoulder with one set of arms, for some reason. I dunno if it covers the whole chest on anything, either.

I'd love to be able to tint it with a different material color as well, so I could make a Lawman that looks like pic related for maximum fancy.

Big ones are:
>Parry changes
Now parrying a light gives same rewards as a heavy, but no free GB. You get a light out of parries most of the time.
>Chip damage.
18% across the board
>OOS Changes
Can't parry while OOS, dodging and blocking breifly pauses stamina regen
>attack startups
GB window is down to only 100ms at most on attack startups.

Heroes will be getting a balance pass so this all isn't hopefully super busted, but no details on exact changes.

They don't announce the new characters before the offseason.

They're not going to announce them next week either.

They might announce them the week after that but I wouldn't count on it. 3 weeks from now seems like the most likely time for the new character reveal, if you ask me.

Who needs new heroes now

So, light/zone on even a light parry...
It's safe to throw out heavies now then?
Assassins are looking okay now desu.

>It's safe to throw out heavies now?
Well, safer anyways. People will still want to parry them with chip damage so much higher.

I do wonder if Zerk will still get a free heavy from every parry like he does now.

True... But I guess if no GBs are guaranteed on parry then you'll always be safe from instadeath throws on parry I guess? I mean honestly if you get parried what are you gonna do besides stand there and be ready to GBC if you're either gonna eat a light that's guaranteed OR get a throw attempt?

>cant parry while OoS
So Raiders best punish is now ruined, fuck the devs. At least I already got rep 30 before this shit.

Best heavy I can throw at them is zerkers chained 55 damage top heavy, chip damage on that is what, 10-12? Is there a single attack in the game with less base damage.

CONQ WILL BE S TIER AGAIN
>no chip on superior block
>free gb on blocked heavy
>oos shield bash
TURTLE CONQ WILL REIGN SUPREME AGAIN

What's good about the oos sheild bash?

So this confirms Ubsioft are utterly retarded right?

>oos is a literal death sentence
>cent will now be A+ tier
>lawbringer nerfed heavily

You're already ok enough as it is. But don't make judgement calls until the class change patch details are revealed.

Nibba you zone and they eat it or dodge for a free gb for the max punish. Who even lands that shit off a oos retard parrying anymore?

Wait zerk gets a free heavy from a heavy parry currently?

They eat a bash and light and stay oos forever or attempt to dodge and get gb especially with how nutered oos dodges will be now.

I land it all the time, a raw zone doesnt do as much damage as a top heavy. The only thing better would be a side heavy to a zone combo

>can't be bothered to wait for the class balance details they talked about
>to see these changes mix with the characters...

With these new changes you'll be able to just spam light into combo zone wich will make them have to eat it or dodge. If they dodge before it blinks it'll be a free gb for you.

Yeah, a side heavy. At least I managed go land it.

Yes top heavy after any parry. Just need to input it immediately

I'll keep this in mind when I'm not near a wall, thanks.
I'm on console so these changes will be a long time anyway anyway.

So let me get this straight, if you parry a light, you can or can't get a guardbreak?

Someone said that blocking while OoS is like blocking a heavy now right? Where it causes you to stagger a bit and your opponent can keep chains going?
So Conq can start his infinite and just start wailing on someone who's OoS until he's near OoS himself, because the enemy won't gain back stamina while they're blocking?

>tfw making a massive comeback in dominion
>we start breaking
>2 of my teammates leave, guaranteeing our loss

they were only like 200 away from breaking themselves, we could have done it if so many players werent such fucking babies

While we are on this, how do you dodge this 100%, wait for it to blink?

they gain back stamina, just not on hit. so stamina will come back between hits

I'm more hyped for realistic dominion

Yes
Yes,Until the character patch details are released. That is the "scenario"

>Revenge is disabled in duels
"Hooray, Conqueror is playable now!"
>fight a warlord who can dodge shield bash
"nevermind!"

realistic campaign assassins were a pain to deal with
off screen Shin is going to be annoying

Linkin park singer hung himself...,
Edgy way to go out I guess...

Not looking forward to fighting Cent/Shinobi or any assassin desu

I guess in the end it doesn't even matter.

I'm honestly surprised that there weren't realistic modes from the start for the competitive tryhards.

I'm worried people wont attack much out of fear of going oos.

Welcome to the new turtle meta...

Easy to fix, not attacking for long enough instantly and permanently drains your stamina.

then you will eat chip damage

Kek. This is the game we all wanted I suppose.

True but you can't die by chip damage.

then timer will end and you will lose

>play shugo
>take forever to get anywhere
>stamina is drained as punishment
>you are now a snail

Ha ha shug BTFO

So what are people without special parry follow-ups meant to do after a parry now that you no longer get a guardbreak from it?
And how are you meant to reliably execute anyone from now on?

Unless they specifically mentioned changing how it works in the stream (I missed it), you totally can.

I would guess get off your best light or set up for something else.

I don't really think lack or reliable execution is a big deal in most game modes - doesn't matter at all in duels, matters little in brawls, you can only be revived once anyways in elim, and gives losing teams a bit more of a chance in skirmish and dominion

part of the new changes
to pts
that might be transfered to the game
might be

Do you think Conq will still get a gb from blocking a heavy?

>1.3 mill players
>dead
whew

where were you when duel was saved?

In summer school

Getting spammed to death by a 4 man Cent team in dominion.

what will the character tier list look like when these changes are implemented?

It is when you paid 7000 steel for it. That being said I'm sure we'll see plenty of executions regardless, heavies are safer now.

What are these realistic modes everyone's talking about?

realistic dominion, no hud dominion mode.
they will introduce it as a temporary mode

Wait, you can't parry in OOS anymore?

Sounds like a button mashing fest.
>Orochi becomes top tier because of his fucked up diagonal slashes

>heavy and light parries now reward the same thing
>not being able to parry while OOS
What the fuck happened while I was gone, did Roman finally go mad?

Well, they're going to try that out on the test client, anyways. Who knows if it'll make it to a real patch.

drawfag here what do we want boiis

It'll make it regardless of feedback and it'll be terrible, just like the Raider buff.

>Get faction specific order
>It's not even my faction
What did they mean by this

Femsei using orochi as a chair