/arena/ - Arena FPS General

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A place to discuss all of your favorite oldschool and modern arena shooters such as Quake Live, Quake Champions, Unreal Tournament, Reflex, etc.

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>Tutorials
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why is reflex balance so shit why is the LG a wet noodle and why are rockets only good with directs

>Thread died again.
New stuff when?

QC release will surely revitalize this place, right?

so when diabotical flops, and you realize that the afps dream is dead, what genre are you going back to?

Hopefully we get a big patch soon
this is becoming sad

quake 2 and cpma while i play the occasional rpg and strategy game

It really depends on what they do with it. id isn't shilling very well and can't get their shit together balance wise. The hope is they give it the D44M treatment, they shilled that hard enough and it did pretty well. /v/ still shitposts about it and had they actually got snapmap right and made combat less linear I would be playing .WADs on it right now. But the best we get is a level or two.

Kek meant to reply to

One can only hope. I wish they held off on this whole tournament stuff until the game was actually done, but with Quakecon around the corner I guess they felt forced.

Sure, but it's probably good they aren't shilling it yet. They should wait till they get everything ironed out and some more content

It is very similar to what Capcom did with SFV, rather than wait for the game to be complete they forced it out so they could make it in time for EVO.

They should've at least had a cinematic trailer at E3 instead we got BJ and an announcement that id has poured 1mil into a prizepool but not netcode.

The more I think about QC the more it feels like id-thesda trying to cash in on the e-sports hype using an existing IP. I always feared that might be the case, maybe it's just impatience.

Ranger is the worst champion.

There I said it.

this OP was higher quality 2bh

no

I suppose next your going to say: 'Slash is best girl'?

No, that title is reserved for Nyx

Slash is be-NANI?!?

>your
>not you're.
God dammit, I don't even speak english and it piss me off.

It seems someone needs shoved into a Slipgate.

Other players
>literally untouchable gods
>even if you do hit them, they have already grabbed every health and armor pickup and don't die
>kills you in 1 second no matter how much health you have or what weapon they're using

Me
>die instantly whenever another player sees me
>tries to dodge but just dodges right into their rockets every time
>get the health and armor upgrades but still die instantly somehow

How the fuck do I git gud? How the fuck do people deal so much damage? How come whenever I try to kill a scalebearer they don't die even after multiple direct rockets, but I die as scalebearer nearly instantly when someone shoots at me? HELP

Speaking of Reflex balance, you may or may not want to have a look at this.
forums.reflexarena.com/index.php?/topic/4472-custom-ruleset-poll/
customruleset.easyga.me/ruleset.html
There are a few servers running this ruleset already, but you need to download some stuff in order to play it.
Give it a try, it might answer some of the problems you have with the current balance.

That's what I get for phoneposting.

My man.

>That's what I get for phoneposting.
Pro tip: read your writing a few times before posting. You will win arguments as long you don't write like a retard.

just always try to maximize your chances in the fights, this means getting stacked on hp/ap, getting necessary weapons for different situations, having good position / escape routes;

to do all of that efficiently you gotta be fast

when it comes to the fight itself, generally lg works the best against tanks, it melts them really fast and is easy to track with on the big hitbox, if your aim is good you can also switch to supershotgun/rail/rocket to finish them off when they're low; rocket launcher is real fucken iffy right now but good for spam and splash damage (be sure your rocket placement is also good and you're actively aiming with it and not spraying'n'praying); railgun only if you have cover, are far away or to finish someone off;

to not get killed by things get as much of a stack you can and don't jump when dodging (unless you're jumping away from rockets or above them), this makes you very easy to track/hit

you said you dodge right into rockets but how can that happen if you dodge depending on where the rocket is going?

you didn't really give that much info but i think you should focus on going fast, escaping bad fights and recovering quickly after them

that being said tdm can be absolutely retarded a lot of the time, especially with the spawns and your team, i topscore among both teams almost every match but still lose due to a 1 - 28 nyx on my team, so don't worry about it - think of why you died at that moment and what you could do differently

QC having so many issues currently makes it hard. But to answer your question: keep playing, watch guides in the OP, finally I personally enjoy Rapha's stream and he explains things pretty well. Maybe also check out previous Quake championships specifically Q3 ones casters explain shit pretty well.

Listen this slashfag, our slashfag spends 12+ hours a day on QC

it's 4 am and i dont know if this is sarcasm or not

but slash is bae

No was honestly a compliment, despite your love for second best girl

HUH

dont die /arena/

galena is best girl

Galena has waifu-fags interesting

What's so interesting about that?
Practically every female character that exists in any popular media ever has waifu-fags for 'em, even the most bizarre of waifus.
Galena is still somewhat surface-level if you put her in context of all that's out there.

>dodging into rockets
you're being read like a book
how about you do the opposite of what you think you should do next time, or just stop thinking

the game isnt much more complicated than
>get big pickup
>get rocket, lg, and rail asap
>dont die

the more you play the better you'll get at keeping track of enemy stack and predicting movement. that's something you cant learn out of game.
(but you can learn how to rotate around a map for pickups and control their timers which is big plus)

and the rest is aiming

I can totally understand how she can have waifu-fags I just didn't know we had any here.

>the rest is aiming
My aim with stuff like the rail gun is pretty decent I think(over 50% acc. every match), but I feel like I suck ass at leading with rockets.
Also is the tribolter considered a shit weapon? I can barely hit anything with it.

What's her name /arena/ the first AFPS that took your Arena-shooter virginity? For me it was Doom2

Mostly played Q2 on N64 though

There is no art of Galena. That's why you are suprised.

Look for good players w/ time, ask them to duel you an tell you what mistakes you're making
If you're socially retarded, just try PMing random ppl in quake discords
The worst you can get is a "nah"

bump

7777777

There is scarce art of any Quake Champs overall, not just for Waifu purposes.
>add patreon to OP
>add poll to see which champ deserves lewds most
>Ranger wins

>QUAD DAMAGE
>suddenly no enemies anywhere
>literally running everywhere around the map looking for niggers to kill and barely see anyone
>not even near the big armor/health pickups
why does this always happen to me

You at the very least denied enemy team Quad which is huge.

Duel in another game with a proper system and your skills will increase tenfold over time with practice.

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youtu.be/WhRlAbJvVDc
youtu.be/ZBR2sraqEVI
gay house music is scientifically proven to make you a better dueler

tribolt is pretty shit really needs a buff
is funny to see pros actively avoid even picking it up on sarnath
anyway it's a spam weapon, you arent really meant to hit things. supposed to spam it into a path to discourage people from passing through. it's just shit at that job because it does so little damage and has such small AOE

anyway with rockets that's prediction. we cant teach you how to hit rockets, you need to play more and learn how people generally move.
you're probably using them too far out though
at range you're just supposed to spam them into chokepoints.
wish my team would do that once in a fucking while. DM would be best mode if it was smaller maps and fewer people.
this isnt overwatch
l2p. nyx is just a fly on the wall

>DM would be best mode if it was smaller maps and fewer people.
wish they would just use duel maps with 4 people for finding matches faster

It needs to do something else. It's just a worse RL right now. It needs a larger blast with even stronger knockback.
FFA needs a "6p, 8p, 10p" and TDM needs "2v2, 4v4, 5v5" queue

I'm mostly bitching about the initial leader is impossible to catch up to, and how bad spawns are. few people reduces bad spawns, and smaller maps makes map control easier to upset.

No problems fragging what is literally the worsr character ever conceived in relation to Quake, I just wanted to predict the mindset of the millennial kikes who'll play this on release for like 20 minutes before returning to Overdiversity.

I joied late into an FFA with ZSX and Xhep both at 16 frags already, i managed to snag 2nd place in the end, tailing behind ZSX's 47 by 2 frags.

It's definitely possible to make up a 15 frag lead in like 6 minutes.

>initial leader is impossible to catch up
maybe if you join the game 5 minutes in yea
otherwise just git gud

that's the problem, it usually does toss you in 5 minutes in
am I expected to make up a 20-30 frag diff in 5 minutes?
ive never been dropped into a DM that just started

>nyx
true, I'm losing 1v1 lol bye
>anarki
haha hope you like killing me again eat my balls bro
>clutch
LOL FREE RAILS LMAO
>scalebearer
your a or d had better work
>bj
how about +50% damage because eat shit I'm balanced?
>sorlag
blaaaaaargh hope you enjoy 110 damage aoe lmao
>ranger
hope you're dumb enough to step into my teleport / I need to actually survive until it arrives into a safe spot
>galena
PLEASE BE A RETARD
>Visor
I can see you while seeing you

nyx and clutch are the only two i take particular issue with, anarki is annoying but nyx and cluctch's abilities are the kind of gay moba-tier shit I wish would stay out of this game

I'm fucking done with TDM it's always me one decent guy and 2 bricks who leave, the enemy team are clones of Cooller naturally and I get pounded into the ground.

trips and my oc confirm
I'm just waiting for a big patch
the moba argument unravels at seams when slowdown, silence and stun get mentioned
qc has none of these, but I gotta admit, athena's grappling hook makes me worry

How are they moba tier though?

theyre gay and stupid and i dont like them

invulnerability is gay

anybody need a meme quakeified?

t.mad & bad shambler that tried to refuse ranger's quad shaft

nah, ranger would be always be second place for questionable stuff while top vote cycles all other characters

anything you can get your hands on that could be even vaguely relevant

if you read 'moba' as 'complete horeshit', invulnerability on demand certainly is

i'd fight anarki over nyx any day
making it so you can't shoot at anyone in a game that is nothing but shooting dudes is mental deficiency levels of stupid

make it standard invis + maybe scale's 50% dmg resist / speed boost
not 3 powerups rolled into one holy shit

>visor
ATTENTION, I AM ABOUT TO GET THE DROP ON YOU

I meant in a 1v1 when you can both see each other and are actively fighting
Visor is the most fair because his ability doesn't do shit

Я BИЖУ BAC

We need some kind of concern image this one being from dark souls, can't think of a good base image for Quake

Uriel from Q3A maybe?

>try to practice movement
>only server you get for singleplayer is 364 ping
epic game id
gj

You could try and get Defrag if you have base Q3, works pretty well for movement practice.

Uriel ~ would have a special movement " Glide "

Hold space to stay aloft when airborne and glide where you want to go.

active ability? no idea something to do with stone like a stone gargoyle or statue form something defensive rather than offensive

he would likley be a heavy class character.

lmao not even the same thing

runs like garbage what the fuck is even the point of quake champions

Defrag has VQ3 movement which is what most champs in QC use.

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literally doesnt matter because nobody needs to practice vq3 movement

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jesus christ you have terrible taste in armor shaders
just because you got it doesn't mean you should use it
most of them look terrible

you know what I just realized there are no SFM models of Q3 characters. Someone fix this.

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>kinda cute
You do not deserve Nyx.

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A classic

Also maybe an Eye-brows guy edit, doesn't have to be .gif though.

>I came here to HUH at you
I can see it

Nice didn't even think of that!


Could do a sorlag edit of this but my skills are mediocre

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game lags like a piece of shit 20 ping feels like 200
get hit by something
oops you're over here now
get hit by things that dont hit you so you can teleport 50 yards backwards and so that you can miss every single jump because game decides to go backwards in technology

holy fuck he looks old here
also
>Dire Orb - windows 95 screensaver

I think part of Ranger's joke is that he looks like a middle aged man who is really good at fragging things. Making him more or less THE Quake-Dad.

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I remember watching a documentary about the development of Halo, where the Devs said they based character faces off of fellow Devs. I wonder who on earth at id has lips like these if that tactic is still used.

Straight outta ID Tech, crazy motherfucker named Doom Guy
From the gang called Protagonists With Attitudes
When I'm called off, I got a sawed off
Squeeze the trigger, and bodies are hauled off
You too, boy, if ya fuck with me
The Devs are gonna hafta come and get me
Off yo ass, that's how I'm goin out
For the punk motherfuckers that's showin out
Cacodemons start to mumble, they wanna rumble
Mix em and cook em in a pot like gumbo
Goin off on a motherfucker like that
With a gat that's pointed at yo ass
So give it up smooth
Ain't no tellin when I'm down for a jack move
Here's a murder rap to keep yo dancin
With a crime record like Charles Manson
Super Shotgun is the tool
Don't make me act the motherfuckin fool
Me you can go toe to toe, no maybe
I'm knockin Cacodemons out tha lock box, daily
Yo weekly, monthly and yearly
Until them dumb motherfuckers see clearly
That I'm down with the capital H-E-L
Boy you can't fuck with me
So when I'm in your neighborhood, you better duck
Cause Doom Guy is crazy as fuck
As I leave, believe I'm stompin
But when I come back, boy, I'm comin straight outta ID Tech

someone build on this or make another verse with Ranger in it.

I'll try, someone else feel free to try. I'm not all that good at 'Expressing myself with my full capability'

Yo, Ranger! (Whassup?)
Tell 'em where you from!

Straight outta ID Tech, another crazy ass nigga
More shamblers I smoke, yo, my rep gets bigger
I'm a bad motherfucker, and you know this
But the pussy-ass shamblers won't show this
But I don't give a fuck, I'ma make my snaps
If not from the records, from fragging or gibs
Just like killing, the definition is fragging
And when I'm legally armed it's called packing
Shoot a scrag in a minute
I find a good piece of pussy and go up in it
So if you're at a show in the front row
I'ma call you a bitch or dirty-ass ho
You'll probably get mad like a bitch is supposed to
But that shows me, slut, you're composed to
A crazy motherfucker from the slipgate
Attitude legit, ‘cause I'm tearing up shit
MC Ranger controls the automatic
For any dumb shambler that starts static
Not the right hand, ‘cause I'm the hand itself
Every time I pull an railgun off the shelf
The security is maximum, and that's a law
R-A-N-G-E-R spells Ranger, but I'm raw
See, ‘cause I'm the motherfucking villain
The definition is clear, you're the witness of a fraggin'
That's taking place without a clue
And once you're on the scope, your ass is through
Look, you might take it as a trip
But a nigga like Ranger is on a gangsta tip
Straight outta ID Tech

That's rad man.
someone make Eazy E with B.J.