Heroes of the Storm General - /hotsg/

This is what peak orc performance looks like Edition

What's new?

>Garrosh, Son of Hellscream announced
>Garrosh will be playable on the show floor at ChinaJoy July 27th
>Currently targeting the week of July 31 for PTR
twitter.com/BlizzHeroes/status/888051090494595072

>Stukov - Starcraft Support; Now LIVE
us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20886131/
us.battle.net/heroes/en/heroes/stukov/
youtu.be/KBBUVUmzxKk

>Heroes of the Storm 2.0
us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20695700/
us.battle.net/heroes/en/heroes20/

>For New Players
>Welcome to Heroes of the Storm
youtu.be/wPk004vsjuE
>Official Community Resources, Guides, and Tips
>Talent Calculators, Statistics, Youtubers, and more
us.battle.net/heroes/en/guides-resources/
>Tier lists are effective guidance tools, but should never be blindly followed
heroescounters.com/map
robogrub.com/tierlist
tentonhammer.com/articles/heroes-of-the-storm-tier-list

>Current Weekly Sale
us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20931725/
>Current Weekly Brawl
us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20930404/
>Current Patch Notes
us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20931726/

>Where can I find fellow GM players stuck in gold because me bunga team?
"/join Veeky Forums" in game chat

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>nerfed arm
>nerfed quest
>ruined Pox Populi
So i guess i got for either the stun heal or the blind?

pox populi is still good
superstrain is also good depending on the matchup
universal carrier CAN work if you go for Excision and Reuptake
but i think it might be better to take Excision + One Good Spread now

no fool. build for trait, vigorous reuptake is still the best 4 in most situations

Basically what I've found with Stukov is if the enemy is largely burst go reuptake/universal carrier, if they're mostly sustain go one good spread+pox populi

I think that's where his real strength lies is he's able to adapt his healing as the draft sees fit

Honestly im just happy they didnt overnerf him.
He still does his stuff just fine.

One good spread gives him massive sustain power early. Vigorous Reuptake is still a late game talent and Fetid Touch and trait CDR talent synergize were always the optimal output talents.

You guys think Stukov will see esports play?
Isnt he too immobile+prone to getting bursted?

There, are you people going to stop crying about Genji being broken and horrible unbalanced now?

Reminder that this thing can save you from that "needing heal" ninja guy and towers

They barely did anything to him.

>his winrate at shitter mmrs drops even lower
>annnnd nothing else changes
well designed hero desu

He will end up being the Medivh of assassins which is totally okay.

the only significant change in that entire list is the dodge charges.

he's still broken. infinite mobility AND protection is just dumb as shit.

also, what is this fucking creature on my launcher. is blizzard on the gdq trannypanel now?

Why am I not surprised

Whats blizzard obsession with trannies?

>not realizing what makes Genji problematic
Nice, dude.

Ye, with the popularity/success of low MMR Mings.

Its trendy. Farting is so 19th century stale.

>tfw in an alternate universe I'm sucking valeera's perfect toes instead of shitposting on an anime discussion board.

>In an alternative universe user is still a degenerate
Some things never change

>too immobile
only if you play like a dumbass and sit still for 5 years channeling arm
yeah he has no mobility skills but neither does Uther (although uther is a lot tankier too)

in an alternate universe she immediately eviscerates you for trying to touch her

>nothing else changes
the nerf to dodge is a pretty big deal, you can actually kill him with AA assassins now if he gets disabled out of position

>giving a shit about people doing things that don't affect you at all

you trannies out yourselves so hard on every single board

youtube.com/watch?v=CIsVGDq8nd8
You know,for kids!

He has a point, and isn't it just the one tranny?

>that facial hair
>ratings disabled
sasusa

How good is the all Z team?

Kerrigan
Zagara
Dehaka
Abathur
Stukov

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teehee user i like you

degenerate spotted

isnt there a containment board you belong to? like /lgbt/ or /mlp?

at least glorious trump btfo those retarded faggots by kicking them out of the military today. no more free mental retardation surgeries for them. maybe we can get trump to drone strike blizz hq

>being this obsessed over transsexuals
Why do you even care?

be like me i am very cool i care about nothing

nothing matters ever and nothing affects you

>don't nerf the main reason Genji is cancer
>Continue to allow him to be Mobility Creep: The Character

Nothing changed, senpai. He's going to continue to be cancer and continue to be the #1 or #2 most frequent ban in HL across all leagues.

How does being upset about trannies make your life any better?

I sure as fuck do not care about it in the heroes of the storm thread

Why do tranny haters always feel the need to bring up the fact they hate trannies?
Literally no one gives a shit, fuck off, keep that shit to /pol/ if you want to cirklejerk

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>be passive
>bureaucracy fucks you so hard in the ass you become a tranny

I remember when I was 15 and thought hating everything with a passion made me appear more of a grown up

neck yourself tranny

Why do gays have to have parades.
What the fuck is black history month circlejerk.
I remember when i was 15 and they cancelled Megas XLR because Coop was fat and lazy.

>Introduce a genuinely cool orc for once.
>Doesn't matter, because Heroes of the Overwatch will still have nothing but two bikini lesbians every quickplay.

Good get

I would say go back to your circlejerk board, but you need a dick for that.

if you think the mentally ill trannies in this thread are mad just go on twitter and check them chimping out over trump right now.

it is entirely relevant to hots because one of the abominations is on the launcher for hots every other day

Just fucking report these retards so we can go back to discussing best waifu

it's tyrande

You glorious bastards. If we did this on /gsg/ janny would immediately scrub the tread.
>not Garrosh

the dodge nerf is an indirect nerf to his mobility. Used to be he could mount up mid combat and get pretty far with agile dismount because of all the stored dodge charges because attempts to dismount would miss but he only stores one instead of three now which makes it far less likely for him to get away with mounting before disengaging.

ofc I think swift as wind is the the popular level 1 talent now and previous nerfs to dodge had made it about on par with the deflect talent last patch iirc, so this latest change doesn't do anything beyond making perfect defense the goto level 7 talent now

tl;dr they just piled on more nerfs to a build that was already losing popularity and solidified the status of his newer build. The fact that he has deflect (and they've made his deflect build better by making dodge shitty) really doesn't detract from the aspects of his kit that make him problematic

I only started playing during that 2nd Anniversary Promotion and mainly stick to vs. AI modes since I don't want to shit up ranked/draft, so I'm talking out of my ass, but are newer characters just straight up better than older ones?

I picked the Support Set when I first started playing and Stukov feels better to play and more efficient than any other support hero I've played, with the exception of Morales.

>best waifu
>already in a committed relationship for 10,000 years

tyrandefags are cucks

I am conflicted about what did this patch did to Chen, but more health for Muradin is always nice.

>Morales
You wot mate? Aurel

Yes and no, the original characters kinda defined the game, new heroes expand on it with new mechanics, but sometimes blizz fucks up and release a completely bullshit character genji


malthael


valeera

lol no

also get into ranked or at least unranked draft asap, don't worry about shitting anything up, just don't play qm

Well she is a good wife if she wasn't loyal. I can appreciate her character without wanting to be with her. Too bad her daughter won't make it in the game since she is up for grabs.

>is on my launcher
>doestn affect me

fuck off. i have to look at that shit.

>you will never live on Teldrassil

why isn't nazeebo an assassin

>having to look at people affects you
wooow
Do you complain as much about the other streamers? Cause I haven't seen any complaints about them so far today

yes/no
there have been some ludicrously good heroes released recently but many of them have been heavily nerfed after the initial rush, many older heroes have remained competitive, and the constant changes/reworks as well as constantly shifting meta mean that what is considered exceptionally good is changing every few months

see heroesofthestorm.gamepedia.com/List_of_heroes_by_release_date
Stukov is good, but doesn't blow all the other supports out of the water, many of them are reasonably competitive
Malthael was broken on release but subsequent nerfs have brought him to reasonable levels
Dva was reasonably good but not the best bruiser by any means but has been nerfed into meh status
Genji is very good and bliz is obv still struggling balance him (difficult considering he's hypothetically very good at high level play, but also very difficult to play, which means constant bans by high level players, but shitters bring down his winrate significantly because they can't play him which mucks up blizzard's data)
Cassia's bounced around the meta from top tier to good; Probius went from v good to eh, Lucio went from most dominant to basically useless

conversely heroes like malf, uther, arthas, stitches etc are constantly moving around but are currently considered to be strong

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>5 people attacking our fort
>Dva charges into them with a full energy bar
>Mech dies without her using self-destruct

as hammer in ranked, is it ever worth taking the life leech talent on 4 rather than focused attack? on one hand the leech is redundant if my support is on point and I do lose some damage, but the leech allows me better early laning and trading and feels really comfortable having (splash) self sustain so is it a noob trap or not?

>as hammer in ranked
Stopped reading right there

>bliz is obv still struggling balance him
I disagree, because Genji is a character that has no real strength and no real weakness

>Do you complain as much about the other streamers?

Because the other ones don't look disgusting, captain sweden.

>having (splash) self sustain
pretty sure it doesn't work like that

aside from that, what do you take at 7 then?

So you're transphobic, shocker

How could Malthael be broken when he was countered by fucking Murky of all characters?

He burns about 30% more mana and dodge is much weaker. Those are significant, but he's still extremely mobile, has a PROTECTED button, and too much health for how mobile.
And don't pull the winrate card on me because you KNOW there are a ton of retarded Genji pickers out there. Not as bad as Stukov in that regard but still.

Malthael is not countered by Murky. He does %-based damage, but when your HP bar is as small as Murky's his Q actually fucking hurts.
Also the bigger deal is that he could literally rape your whole fucking team and heal through it by hitting R, holding down Q with his nose, and licking W and E while slamming the mouse on the table.

stop memeing, hammer may not be top tier, and probably shouldn't ever be picked before fifth pick, but she's a solid specialist who enables objective pushes on siege maps.

you should not be solo split pushing with Hammer, sustain is less important on her than you think unless you're playing QM. Generally speaking, you should be playing her as a better Raynor, constantly stutterstepping from backline behind your tanks, you've got a knockback to disengage divers, and the only time you should be sieging up is when you're absolutely 100% positive you won't get ganked/you're safe/you're surrounded by your team. I like taking First Aid at 7 just for those absolute oh shit moments, but the Z talent at 7 is a good alternative.

>Malthael is not countered by Murky
That's not what the community tells me

>shocker

You got that right.

So now that we know that you have no other reason to hate trannies other than "eeww gross" can you just fuck off and leave your triggered little heart out of /hotsg/?

Sgt Hammer is bootleg less good Sylvannas/Raynor.

>transphobic
>implying it's bad
Nothing wrong with hating these freaks
I wonder if you're from Canada

>Dva wastes a talent for clearing/pushing
>Just knock it right back into her gook face

Too bad her ult doesn't kill her like it used to do in OW.

>being triggered over someone's existence
Kek

the meta then heavily favored double (sometimes triple) tank/bruiser comps, with teamfights being dragged out slugfests, and his % based damage, self sustain and armor meant under the right circumstances he could engage and win/survive 1v3. He's never been a fantastic 1v1 duelist but he was head and shoulders above all the other bruiser/durable melee characters because he could drag out fights with them despite being outnumbered.

That's because they assume that since Malth is all %-based damage a hero with a tiny health pool would fuck him. Admittedly both of Murky's ults are really good against him but outside of that Murky can't really fight him.

But countered by Murky

Murky

Its a proper reaction to a mental disease.
Whats next, pedophobic?

Tentophammer and carbot both says Murky is a serious threat to Malth, would they lie to me?

>Tentophammer
>carbot

hahahahahha wow

>you have no other reason to hate trannies other than "eeww gross"

I mean, I have more but most aren't related to hots. Beyond that though I just find it funny how hard Blizzard tries to prop these things up on twitch despite how quickly they end up getting kicked from whatever teams they join.

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>itt
>/pol/ thinks they have an enclave

Malth was ridiculous on release because he was designed to be anti-tank, in the same way you might draft Tychus as anti-tank, but Malth ended up being ludicrously good because of his above average durability with armor and sustain, in addition to also being good at waveclear, having no real mana issues (thus no need to back) and the fact remains that % based damage is still good even against squishier heroes

Murky isn't really a threat, he's just a waste of resources. Nobody is really 'good' against Murky in that his entire purpose is to be a drain on enemy resources/attention. It's not that Murky is 'good' vs other heroes, it's more that he's not worth fighting. You might as well say LiLi is a threat to Malthael because she can blind, does decent dmg and doesn't give enough health back on Q and can probably outtrade him 1v1.

Have you often seen Murky in ranked? Unlike Malthael he is rarely picked

>Not countered by Murky

My, oh my, you have no idea what the point of that "counter" is. He may do more damage with his Q to Murky but he has already trouble to kill that pufferfish alone, also his Q heals him by % hp of the enemy, which will give him vs Murky almost none of the HP back. Murky can just afk push the lane and Malthael won't be able to do shit about it, even if he kills Murky he will be almost dead and Murky will be back in 5 seconds.
You all are forgetting that Murky respawn timer, you know.

>this is one of those people i have to share /hots/ general with

>this is one of those people i have to share /hots/ general with

better him than that 'high IQ six figure salary' autist from last thread

>Have you often seen Murky in ranked? Unlike Malthael he is rarely picked
If only they diden't nerf him to the ground after his reworks, makes you wonder what the point of a rework is in the first place.

I'd rather have a guy tell /pol/ to fuck off than another /pol/yp shitting up our thread

okay but how do you guys feel about draft mode stealth and stuns though

Sure you don't want to swap HotS™-related tranny stories?

Among my favorites will always be how one of Blizzard's first hots esports events included a team of Idra, a tranny, and the other biggest starcraft rejects they could find. It was like they gathered a bunch of zoo animals to play their new game.

oh was that an actual person here
skipped over reading the novels that were being typed

agreed