which sac team will they get? I think it will be Xron´s squad
Brandon Russell
When does diabotical release? And is it f2p can't find shit on their kick starter
Elijah Turner
wont be f2p and no releasedate yet
Camden Nguyen
Fuck these stupid nu-esport games, I'll make my own.
Levi Davis
define "nu-esport"
Ryder Torres
seems like there is another ability reward for visor, anyone else got this? cant find it in my medals page
Gavin Wood
shooting range 3 kills during sight
Bentley Rodriguez
which one is that? and what is the other? or is the right one seer?
Ryder Baker
Right one is seer.
Jordan Anderson
>"heros" >cluttered maps >ugly graphics >rng >bad netcode >tiny hitboxes with fast adad >little to no sound cues, ie "HUH"
John Harris
all of these are either subjective or straight up incorrect
Samuel Ortiz
I recall last thread someone mentioning that the game checks hitreg clientside. Could all our netcode problems be as simple as Bethesda's client is a shit, and if id had made their own or used steam this wouldn't have happened?
Wasn't there a Machinima called 'Arena' or something, it's Doom3guy's trek through the Arenas?
Jonathan Ramirez
>playin corrupted keep >go to rl >win engagement at rl >stand at rl, dip over to megahealth occasionally >win gaem
gud mode
Aiden Martinez
>play qc >hit rail >win gaem
James Campbell
>play quake 3 >hit 100 dmg rail >win gaem
Oliver Jackson
Bridge to rail, right?
Samuel Kelly
>play cpma >hit rail, instant switch to lg >win gaem
Jeremiah Collins
instant switch after firing a rail? user are you drunk?
Brody Morris
>play q2 >instant switch to redeemer >win match
Easton Martinez
He's retarded and never actually played CPMA. What you do is get two ticks of damage with LG then switch to rail to kill a fresh spawn.
Evan Rivera
>play QW >hit rocket, instant switch to super nailgun >win tournament
Jose Sanders
the cooldown is a part of firing the rail the weapon switch is instant technically not in the wrong
Parker Harris
I thought SNG was trash in Q1/QW Just like in QC
Josiah Gutierrez
Is this where I go to discuss Lawbreakers
btdubs Quake Champions sucks ass
Carter Butler
get out cliffyb
Gabriel Cruz
Man I just want to complain to someone that they nerfed the shit out of Juggernaut but barely touched Wraith
They ended up making Wraith even stronger because nothing can threaten him at close range anymore
Mason Wilson
WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN US CLIFFY WHY DIDN'T YOU MAKE UT GREAT AGAIN?
Jason Roberts
but lawbreakers is actually fun and moderately new instead of a pathetic attempt to rebuild a game whose design is entirely outdated
Colton Price
>play FPS >click on head >win gaem
Jordan Lee
You crossed the line senpai
Jayden Turner
nice try cliffyb
Eli Turner
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Logan Flores
You're only mad because deep down you agree with me desu
Tyler Allen
paragon or tf2 general is more your style
Easton Miller
played the alpha almost two years ago, since then they have added healthpacks and more maps
Henry Miller
Outdated would imply that it is no longer appealing which is entirely untrue, it's just that devs don't give a shit and the community is very, very, fractured. With as much success as Wolfenstein and D44M had (both of which are ancient IPs one with a very different style of play) you would think id could do well with Quake, instead we get a massive dumpsterfire that is 'working as intended'
Owen Morris
>He's retarded and never actually played CPMA.
1v1 me right now bitch. Garden of War, High res, let's fucking do this shit pussy ass crabnigga
Luke Watson
fuck off ZTK
Lincoln Carter
>Outdated would imply that it is no longer appealing user these threads typically get maybe 30 unique posters.
As much as I loved it at the time, Quake III design is absolutely unappealing in a modern setting.
UT would do better than Quake with a straight graphics upgrade but at the end of the day FPS conventions have changed.
One of the reasons I like Lawbreakers so much is that it's fast and has a high skill ceiling like older arena shooters but still incorporates more modern design choices like having various classes and not requiring you to master obtuse movement mechanics to stand a snowball's chance in hell
Cameron Sanchez
How would UT do better when Quake objectively has a larger playerbase than every UT game?
Nolan Foster
>Quake objectively has a larger playerbase
literally irrelevant because the quake """playerbase""" consists of stubborn autists who refuse to play anything than their particular flavor of a 20+ year old dead game
Luke Martin
>How would UT do better In a modern setting UT would do better purely because of the lower skill floor.
Isaiah Robinson
>the more quotes you use, the more convincing you are
Brandon Sanders
yeah they made like 3 seasons but had to cancel the 4th.
Jayden Lee
spot the guy who never got better than "average" in any arena shooter.
Jeremiah Lee
In a modern setting, Quake Live has more players than any UT game while UT4 is free and new with modern graphics.
Leo Price
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Ayden Ramirez
not an argument
Bentley Adams
not arguments, and have nothing to do with the truth that quake players wouldn't be satisfied with any new quake because they refuse to play anything other than the same thing they'd been playing for decades
quake live has more players than ut4, but it is still dead. every other quake is even deader. there is literally no reason to listen to the quake "playerbase" because they practically don't exist, and they're not going to be happy with a new quake anyway regardless of how good it is
Aaron Morales
lawbreakers is still not arena fps
Julian Foster
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Jackson James
i've never played lawbreakers and don't know shit about it, so i can't say
Kevin Williams
let's consult the minimum arena checklist, things that absolutely must be present to be considered an arena shooter:
respawning health pickups? respawning weapon pickups? ffa deathmatch? duels?
i havent played lawbreakers so i don't know if it has these things
Kayden Sullivan
You forgot another important aspect of afps, that being advanced movement, which Lawbreakers definitely has. For the moment, it currently only has team based modes, and I doubt that's ever going to change (save for possibly an addition of ffa). No respawning weapon pickups, as every weapon is tied to individual classes, but it has respawning health pickups (as well as a healing station in each team's base).
Law Breakers is definitely not an AFPS in the classic sense.
Honestly it looks bad. It has all this focus on classes and roles, but the movement will make all of that a clusterfuck and make it impossible to coordinate and make hitscan the only viable thing to use at high levels, since there is no way you will ever be remotely close to the ground and air control is insane.
Its definitely closer to Overwatch than to Quake. Except probably more chaotic.
Its also way too built around teams, I think FFA or Duel is 100% out of the question
Noah Davis
yea i really was just listing the absolute minimum list in the sense that any game not satisfying one of those things i listed could never be called an arena fps.
but yes, assuming those things are met then obviously advanced movement is the next thing, though off the top of my head the only games that would weed out are shit like halo
really shouldn't even be called arena fps in the first place, should just call it quakeclones or UT, since those are basically the only examples. (i wouldn't classify tribes as an afps since it's kinda its own thing)
Hudson Myers
>Lower skill ceiling Did you ever even play a UT that wasn't 99? UT has a lower skill ceiling on map control, but higher on combat. The games are just different.
A finished and released game has more players than an unmarketed half finished game. Shocking, isn't it?
Leo Perez
>make hitscan the only viable thing to use I keep hearing this, "pick hitscan to win"
Everyone has a hitscan except medic and assassin
Eli Ramirez
>lower skill ceiling That's not what I said. I said UT has a lower skill floor.
Skill floor and skill ceiling are two different things.
Aiden Clark
Ah, sorry, I misread.
Nathan Bennett
there is honestly nothing more nutty than hitting back to back rails in cpma
Easton Sanders
the arena fps format predates Quake and UT
Oliver Reyes
are you banned from cpma channel
Aaron Evans
Godspeed, /arena/
Connor Perry
Corrupted Keep is the best duel map, both in terms of enjoyment, and in terms gameplay, simply because it doesn't have a railgun. The whole game would be better off without it.
Jacob Wilson
best free arena shooter?
Dominic Peterson
CPMA, Warsow, nQuake, Q2, and UT4 are all good free ones
Adrian Sanchez
it's not that it's trash, it's that it's balanced for single player and the rocket launcher and thunderbolt shit so hard on every other weapon that they become useless
Matthew Smith
tiered weapons make TDM/2on2s more fun desu
Daniel Parker
Cube 2 Sauerbraten Or you could just check the OP and download what's there. Also, thanks user from the last thread for making this image.
Nathaniel Myers
vore tournament
Noah Young
Last thread had around 80, but theres like around 15 of us who post consistently and about 4 who lurk constantly. QC tried to incorporate modern FPS conventions but fucked it up, it's very doable to make QC a good game but id seems intent on fucking themselves in the ass as hard as possible so when Todd asks why they spent 1mil and didn't get shit for it they at least can say they enjoyed it.