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>tfw just learning about engines/mechanical stuff
>many motorcycles have more power than your average entry level chevy cruze, toyota camry, or nissan versa
>while having less than a fifth of the weight in most cases
no wonder so many people die on these things. ppl start putting rollcages in their cars around 250 hp
I need some help friends, I'm trying to choose between a 2018 wr450 f and an exc-500 anyone have experience with both bikes? Also from what I remember from a long while ago KTMashit wondering if that's changed. Figure I'll post it here too.
KTM a best. Also the EXC is street legal which is a nice convenience if that at all interests you.
Your average 10 year old litrebike has close to 1000hp per tonne.
>tfw 175hp on one wheel
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That's the main reason for me getting it or the WR, there is a dealer here that will title the WR for street. I need something dank off road and okay on street my DRZ wasn't good off road really at all but sure was reliable
EXC has a wider gear spread which is better for dual sport usage.
That was another thing I was thinking about, the oil change intervals are insane on both of these bikes, the most I'm used to is 3k on the speed I own.
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i would love to own a dirt bike, but unfortunately i only have the money for one bike and my commute takes place on 70+mph roads
Is that the 125 or 250?
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The KTMashit meme has always been a meme and it still is, if you're looking for one to plate the EXC would be better, a little bit more power and wider gearing for the street.
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The only thing that bothers me with the whole ordeal is reliably, I know Jap bikes are good, and I own one eurotrash so I'm torn there, from what I've read about KTM the reliability is kinda crap, but then again if you see enduro of any kind it's a sea of orange. the WR i'm sure would be great off road and from my understanding the exc is insane too. I just don't want to drop 9-12k on a bike that's a joke and problematic.
What do you guys think about this. I just moved and found a new motorcycle shop. I've been wanting to get a motorcycle to commute about 50 miles a day on (city and highway), and to have fun with. I was looking at the honda rebel 500 because I just like the way it looks and the specs on it. It seems like it would be a nice cheap commuter. But today I sat on a 2017 Triumph Bonneville Bobber and my heart sank because I liked the way it felt more than the 500. Would the Bonneville be feasible for me to have a first bike and commute on? I just love it so much. Would the insurance be a whole lot more?
It would make a fine first bike by all metrics except being affordable when you drop it. Maybe consider a used 650 naked or a vulcan cruiser first that you can find on CL?
honestly, if you want that look, consider getting a used modded shadow 750. a new bike is just not a good idea for a first time rider, mostly because you'll end up selling it for something else down the road or you'll drop it.
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I currently have a 300. I've been riding for a year, roughly 7k miles.
When I upgrade, should I go for an MT07/650 range bike, or go right for the dream; a Striple RS or 790 duke?
Thanks deebeetee, peace and bwessins.
Sure, but get your license first, and get used to your bike in a parking lot before you take it out on the road. You will most likely drop your first at least once, so get rollbars or whatever they're called.
Have you ever riden a motorcycle before?
striple. it's about the same power as a 600 i4 standard, but I really enjoyed riding my buddies.
Street Triple is a well balanced yet fun bike.
Be prepared to spend a little extra on maintenance and shit, but otherwise do it.
Id pick the triumph out of all the other bikes you mentioned.
It's not too much for someone with just a year of exp? There is a Street Triple RS for sale near me, it's 2018 but somehow a trade in that is discounted, and I'm seriously considering it, but it's too cold to test ride.
thanks for the input
I had a dirt bike as a kid and rode a moped and bicycles during college, but never a real street motorcycle
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>Dream bike
Go for it, if the computer let's you choose engine profiles on the fly you can start in "rain mode", at least on the Duke.
You'll do fine. The I3 is super smooth and forgiving, not as peaky as the I4 bikes.
Just dont go full retard on the throttle and you should survive.
you'll be alright. try to test soon, as soon as the weather warms up, the price will follow suit.
even still, Try to find a used trade in rebel 500 if you really want. I am partial to the shadow, I love my 1100. I just can't recommend a new bike for a first street ride.
all enduros are unreliable. ktm is no worse than the others
Thanks, the RS has 3 mode traction control with separate modes and levels of ABS.
thanks for your input, I think my throttle hand is ok, and I cover the clutch. I've done a test ride of the R Nine T, and while it's an immensely smooth and forgiving bike, it gave me a little confidence on slightly bigger bikes.
The first day it hits 45-50 again I'll be on it, which shouldn't be too far away here.
If you rode a moped for a couple years you're probably worse off than someone who just started. You learn a lot of bad habits when riding mopeds.
Anyways, I rode a moped for one summer, then got my license on a tuned down Duke 790. Didn't tip and passed the final exam with flying colors.
I bet you'd do just fine, but most sell their first after a couple of years, and you'll get more for flawless bike, rather than ones that been tipped 3 times.
So if money isn't an issue, get your dream bike. But if you plan on selling later on, get a "beginner", or at least used bike first.
kinda wanna pizza delivery job on a motorcycle
don't know how I'd get away with it in the states though
Because you're a fountain of experience and knowledge.
>Modes of traction control and ABS
Use them as you see fit, good tt and ABS are safer. But some argue that learning to ride without tt and ABS makes you a better and more forward looking rider.
Don't know what you meant by "separate modes". But if you were referring to throttle, yes, starting on the "easy" throttle setting would be smart.
That's fair senpai.
60k miles on my 530 ktm with only ring jobs
I truly am :^)
>tfw the cx500 was 3 years ago almost
>dirt bike sitting on the corner of the road while shitboxes play in the mud
ur mum gave me 60k ring jobs lmaooooo
>Discrimination
Even shitboxes should be allowed to play in the mud from time to time. I mean, let them touch those things for once.
This is Veeky Forums. Fun isnt allowed, your car sucks, everyone rides the bus. Didnt you go through the Veeky Forums orientation prior to posting?
>Let them touch those things for once
Separate modes like A/B/Rain/etc that are a collection of different power, traction, throttle, and abs intervention.
Also I agree, for the most part if I'm triggering any of those things, I'm doing it wrong, but they are there to catch me if I make a mistake too. On my current bike I have none of these things, and while it's not nearly as powerful, I've got some good habits from it.
underrated
>Shitbox
It's a WRX, though. Those things are all right. Subaru is all right.
my point was the dirt bike should be more at home there than the cars. It is like some kind of role reversal scenario
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on a bike, if you crash and slide or tumble you will most likely survive as long as you don't slide into something or experience a helmet failure. you might break something that's easy to break, like a collarbone or ankle, but it's better than getting your skull pushed in.
in a car, you need to be strapped in and well protected or the car itself will kill you no matter how flat and deserted the track is
Are buells gud? I've only ever ridden racey i4s and a GS500.
Harley engine torque on a bike seems like a recipe for easy highsides
You get used to it, on my WR ( supermoto, street ) it works out to every second or third ride. I swap filter on the 3rd change. Takes me about 10-15 minutes, use Rotella T6, good and cheap, can be bought damn near everywhere in burgerland.
The never Buells used Rotax engines, so they made a lot more power and were more reliable.
They have been touted as some of the best handling bikes made, theyve just always been short on power.
The 1125R was about on pace with most Japanese 600 cc Supersports
The 1125 is good.
The XB series is okay, but not great.
All of them are ugly as shit
Nah, the XB12 was about as fast as 600s. The 1125 is considerably faster. The 1190 is on par with liter bikes.
Mine is. I'm not a fan of harley engines at all, no power. The 1125 is a rotax engine that actually makes more torque than the xb12s as well as making 40 more hp. The bike is a wheelie machine, but is actually a lot more civilized than it sounds. It's pretty easy to ride fast just don't be a retard exiting corners and you should be ok.
the EBR 1190RX/SXs are my bike but with the engine and steering turned up to 12. 185 hp stock, 93 lb/ft and weighs like 10 lbs less than an 1199. Put an exhaust on and you're looking at 175 to the wheel.
Both the WR450 and 500EXC are very reliable bikes. Keep the air filter clean, change the oil often and you are likely to have zero issues with them for many many miles.
The 1125 was placed in the 600 supersport race classes because it could not possibly keep up with liter bikes. Same went for the Aprilia RSV1000
Also, the 1190s were almost always towards the bottom when it came to horsepower and straightline speed.compared to the 4 cylinder literbikes
Stop saying things
Thankyou
Dont get me wrong, I love the Rotax Buells and the EBRs, but facts are facts.
I would kill to have a KTM RC8 alongside an 1190 RX in my garage.
whogayhere?
Yeah maybe on the very top end but if you're just talking about straight up race tracks it was a very competitive bike when it was riden by someone that knew what they were doing
I too would like a KTM RC8 1190 RX combo in my garage as well
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Rajdoot?
Unfortunately the professional racing circuit disagrees with you.
The 1190s had utterly abysmal performances on the international racing stage. In World Superbike they were consistently in the bottom finshers. That's one of the reasons the team lost funding and had to shutdown. Also was a contributing factor to EBR going bankrupt.
That doesn't mean the bikes were bad by any stretch of the imagination. In fact, the 1125RS won the AMA Supersport championship back in the day right before Harley killed Buell.
The EBRs and Buells are awesome bikes with amazing performance and can easily upset many bikes out on the road, but we cannot ignore that the flagship bikes from Buell and EBR were always slower than the flagships from japan and europe.
Yes, thank you for calling Yamaha customer service.
Have you tried turning it off and then on again?
EBR for daily riding, KTM for tracking
Alllright
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The biggest problem I think with EBR is that there was no marketing for the bikes whatsoever after Harley shut him down back in 2009, as well as the fact that while him wanting to make bikes without any sort of electronic traction control was admirable for maybe a hard core group of guys street riding when the bikes were made in 2014. that was still kind of the case but in 2015 Yamaha came up with their new R1 which had all sorts of ridiculous amounts of tc which everybody then followed suite except for Eric Buell. if you did something like that maybe EBR would have turned out a little bit better.
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What's it like being bummed by superiors?
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I attribute that to the 8 year old base engine from the 1125, and Erik's desire to steer away from electronics. The bike is good, but I absolutely agree that it could have been better.
18% more power than a zx-6, woohoo!
122HP is y2k TL1000-tier power. not very impressive for a supposedly modern 1100.
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Great. I'm a contractor now. I like money
Absoultely. Buell could have been an amazing manufacturer had Harley not treated it like a red headed step child.
Had they been able to pour more R&D into Buell, they would have been more competitive and sold better, but Harley didnt want to eat into their cruiser sales so they told Buell to fuck off.
So ironic that in literally the same year that Buell won a national championship against the dominant Japanese bikes, Harley kills the company.
Where?
Great, firm?
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>Wearing military clothes after ended service
By an armless cripple? You have some weird fetishes, user.
Biggest problem IMO is every single one of their bikes is so fucking ugly nobody would want them even if they knew what the fuck Buell/EBR was.
I'd guess a major contributing factor to the poor results was not having the budget to hire the best riders like all the big name teams.
The 1190 is 175-185hp, which is more than most of the 1000cc i4s were making 2 years ago.
You know it was designed as a street bike and not a sport bike right? It could have had 160 hp but been Ducati like in its maintenance.
It's a hoodie. Why wouldn't I? I still use it for pt gear
>firm
Some random govt agency. Who knows
anyone rode a CB1100?
The 1190 is ~160 hp at the wheel, which is close to decade old 4 cylinder literbikes
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>Works for the government
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As long as you don't ask for military discounts
>tfw no longer living in North/central OR
I'm not in the military anymore why would I ask for discounts?
>Wear navy sweater
>Go into store
>Ask for discount
>Show military ID you didn't return cause why not keep it?
>Get cheap stuff
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still more than the cbr1000 makes :^)
Also the liter bikes were mostly making 150 or less to the wheel until 2015+ when the rest of them got major updates.
The Buell hasn't been updated as much or as recently. Yes it is less powerful than current liter bikes but it isn't in 600cc territory.
Dyno for a 2007 GSXR1000