Dragon players, are you taking out Grimnir? I want those luscious vials, but don't want to regret the decision. I don't need his enhance anymore, another board clear for 10 mana is just bad. I know he has value as a 2/3 ward for 3 pp, but I feel like these days a 2/3 ward just gets rolled over by stuff like BKB and Neutral.
Brandon Myers
>a 2 drop that trades into 3-drops is still not enough for haven players >a 2 drop that trades into 3-drops and gives +0/2 and ward to dogs is still not enough for haven players >a 2 drop that trades into 3-drops, gives +0/2 and ward to dogs, and double trades with x/1s is STILL not enough for haven players
Joshua King
Runebros you ready to Dshift hags and Banish shadow lolis?
Owen Allen
This is Luna's meta dayo!
Dylan Allen
Why the fuck did they nerf snow white? Literally just a legendary fighter now. Only good thing is 3500 vials back.
Christopher Rivera
How do you play a card game against a wolf? Why is luna so shit
Nathan Ross
>but don't want to regret the decision It's physically impossible to regret the decision, crafting him costs the same as vialing him so there's literally zero risk to vial him now and then craft him later if you decide you want to run him again.
Parker Cooper
This is dumb. We were talking about the nerf. Of course Snow White was a good card before. Maybe even too good. But she's a card that becomes pointless if you change her stat values. Who wants to spend their turn 2 playing a 1/2 that becomes a 2/2? It's negative tempo. If you want a slow, negative tempo gameplan as Haven, there's plenty of cards for that.
Noah Gutierrez
I just threw in 2 hungering hordes and 3 razor claws. I deleted the old deck so I don't really know what I had there before.
Landon Russell
>muh Grimnir doesn't stop all attack and take two followers down with him anymore
Sebastian Ramirez
Yeah, and shadow plays lurching corpse and a 3pp 1/1. Cry most, hagfag, even though I don't think snow white needs the nerf.
William Morgan
Reminder. Show White was balanced. Teatime is balanced. All Haven cards are balanced Shadowlog data is false data Cygames date is false data Aegis has 30% winrate. This is real data Storm has 30% winrate. This is real data Haven has 4% playrate. Everyone who disagree is shadownigger
Sebastian Ward
>basics everyone is guaranteed to have saturate the prebuilts the fuck is this kike shit
James Torres
Well, eventually that vial period will run out.
Colton Cruz
>Negative tempo Who would want to play an amulet on turn 2 that becomes a 4/4 and a 2/1? It's negative tempo
Isaac Cruz
Need a concede, 48732.
Jace Thomas
>playing a 2 drop that is sticky, has free ping, activates dogs, and can trade into any 3 drop is negative tempo for hagfags
Charles Taylor
>2PP Destroy almost any single follower Nerf corpse now
Christopher Jenkins
Thanks Magisa.
Brandon Rogers
It's not negative tempo to deny almost any 3-drop right before the turn they play it
That is literally the opposite of negative tempo
Levi Nguyen
Yes? It fucking dies instead of surviving.
Wyatt Cooper
>cannot trade into non-ward >need an activator She's balanced.
Grayson Watson
The full vial refund from vialing him will run out, but he'll always cost the same to craft, so if you vial him now you can craft him whenever you want and there's still no risk to it since you'll have spent the exact same 2400 vials you got from throwing him away.
Colton White
Birdcraft is best craft. I really need to get Garuda.
Nathan Ward
That's actually one of the weaknesses of amulets originally, and has been forever. It's slightly slower than aggro, which means it can get blown out by really strong early decks. It's changed somewhat now because Teatime is just so crazy strong, but that was how amulets were balanced from the start. You meant it as sarcasm, but yes, this is totally correct. Creature amulets ARE negative tempo that become positive tempo if you survive.
Evan Powell
Yeah, but if I vial my Grimnirs, I'll have to recraft them later, at full price.
Jose Ross
>help my 2pp cannot survive against a 3pp Hagfags are all the same. Senile and self-emtitled.
Christopher Harris
>Animated Spawn I don't want to kill you but, sorry
Juan Taylor
wait what the fuck why is the game installed on my SSD now?
Josiah Brown
>mfw I almost got memed wew lad
Josiah Watson
But you got their full price in vials when you vialed them, so you don't actually lose any vials if you craft them again
Jacob Walker
>same vial count For what purpose?
Luis Moore
Post Nep decklist
Isaac Robinson
Remind you, we're looking at cards in a vacuum and in the best possible conditions. It can literally l i t t e r a l l y kill a zeus FOR FREE. Not to mention soulsquasher doing the same for also nearly every card. How is this allowed?
Justin Ward
>Cleared previous dragon campaign with Pendant >Grimnir nerf sinks in I'M SO SORRY OLD FRIEND... youtube.com/watch?v=-9yYJ6ZAYns F
Nathan Campbell
I won't have them if I vial them though, so getting full refund now isn't worth anything if I have to craft them later, at full price. Liquifying a Grimnir should give vials and a 2nd Grimnir to replace the one you vialled, later.
Isaiah Powell
>unless my two drop can survive killing their 3 drop, it sucks and is negative tempo!
Anthony Flores
Why aren't you watching Satan cat desperately climbing towards GM before the points reset?
Dylan Morgan
why are people mad that a legendary card is better than bronze / silver followers? why aren't people mad that other legendaries are far better than other followers at around the same cost?
Jonathan Evans
Just neutral. bro
Carson Miller
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Caleb Barnes
>Isabelle has a special taunt emote against Rowen on the story mode Why can't we have them on PvP too?
Justin Gonzalez
Thanks for reminding me bro.
Cameron Young
>Throwing away a 8% of 1.5% of 1.35% What? You'll get 3500 vials in a fair bit of arena runs. You ain't gettin that animated lego back.
Cameron Harris
Because Fairy Dragon and corpselord exist, hagfag. What? Never had bad legendaries before?
Jonathan Taylor
>4% That's Forest playrate. Haven deck with Aegis is 7.6%, not counting Storm variant which doesnt run Aegis at all.
Noah Bell
You should check previous threads >"2PP legendary supposed to be BROKEN because of 3500 vials" >"some gold cards are broken! Why 2PP legendary can't be broken?" Pure gold
Ryder Perry
>haven >not having bad legendaries Sometimes you can get so blinded by your hate that you become just as delusional as the people you're shitting on
David Clark
What is your argument here? Good legendaries shouldn't exist because there are also shit legendaries?
>hagfag Nice assumption you made there.
Michael Torres
But animated lego is just animated lego? That's all. No any bonuses
Luis Turner
Nice Ouroboros there dragonfriend. >tfw on a 6 winstreak with dreadshift
Jordan Thomas
Hey, you assholes are butthurt about a 2pp that can trade into most 3pp. Cry me a river.
Samuel Stewart
I can only buy 5/7 of the prebuilts, which 2 are the worst of the bunch?
Liam Jackson
>general shitpost
Lincoln Sanders
>what is jeanne, skullfane, and eidolon
Jeremiah Cooper
Thorned anomaly is only good for elf queen which you only need 1x of anyway.
Nathan Kelly
I have an animated Spawn and an animated Ouroborus. I'm not vialing them, and you shouldn't too, unless you REALLY need those vials.
Owen Sullivan
Forest and Rune.
Christopher Hughes
Yup, butthurt/10
Noah Gonzalez
Quick, I need a ramp deck to deal with aggro
Angel Cooper
You literally cannot If Seraph costed 1pp, they would say that it was balanced
Justin Myers
>this late to climb Is he just waiting for the meta to be ant eater free?
Liam Bennett
>Fite me >Was so powerful they had to mutilate him. The first of the legos to be nerfed >Was absolutely savage within the power curve of the cards when he was being designed and is only bad because the dev team went full retard
Daniel Harris
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Michael White
>implying I'm butthurt about it I didn't think Snow was worth it in my Haven decks to begin with, don't take your obvious asspain out on me just because you forgot Haven has some pretty shit legendaries.
Jacob Kelly
>Using a card that got nerfed as proof of bad legendaries ???
Asher Lewis
>dshitter emoting after top decking lethal Can we just put them all in concentration camps already?
Jaxon Hernandez
>nerfed stop this meme
Aiden Wood
Standard:
>Angelic Noble >6 mana 6/6 with huge drawback
WD:
>Carabosse >6 mana 6/6 with hugely powerful effect
Powercreeeeeeeeeeep
Lucas Taylor
>implying it's not Post Jannu instead
Samuel Ward
game ai isnt update their tier list where the hell should i netdeck then ?
Anthony Davis
Are you having fun?
Josiah Peterson
What would you call increasing his pp cost then?
Ian Rivera
>scarlet sabreur
Easton Hill
the only people who would be seriously complaining about snow white are neutral aggro shitters that get stopped in their tracks by the card.
Adam Scott
Reminder that Snow White was literally balanced and only Shadowniggers and Dragoncucks think that a 2-for-1 lego was broken
Leo Jackson
>up against shadow >completely winning board >they play eachtar into eachtar >lose yeah, this card is totally fair cygames
Nolan Rivera
Fits perfectly in aggro blood.
Bentley Reyes
Uhhh...Guys I just started up Shadowverse on Steam after downloading the update. Why does it want me to download the whole game again?
Josiah Cooper
>prebuilt legos have different voice acting ayo hol up
Carter Lopez
I would call it a beta test since the beta is for testing things and you weren't even playing this game
Mason Clark
Maybe it's because it was against AI, but Tempo Dragon is fun.
Justin Peterson
You see, you were winning the board, which means you were losing it all along.
Brody Davis
>huuuuur why won't anyone let me "chemo" in peace
David Collins
NOOOOOOOOOOOO DELET THIS ALL OF SHADOWS CARDS ARE BALANCED REMOVE HAVENCRAFT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
James Wood
why do rune players always have to be such disconnect faggots?
Adam Williams
Cygames changed the place files are stored on your computer. Also you don't download most of the files from valve's servers anymore, but cygames's.
Thomas Williams
>tfw first grimnir play with no burn >Even pendant boosting its attack doesn't help Ow.... It's 10pp help your opponent win and all cause people ran low curves and little to no healing. Whew lad
Justin Torres
>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HIS LEGO WENT 2 FOR 1 PRESSING THE EVOLVE BUTTON IS SO HAAAAAAAAAARD CYGAMES PLZ NERF don't nerf eachtar tho plz
Camden Flores
i think you might have brain damage seek immediate medical attention
Matthew Butler
Forgot pic related. I was playing it just fine before the maintenance.
Brayden Moore
Take your meds please
Gavin Turner
>You need an activator for snow white So They play nothing that you can activate it off of. Which means they made a rather low tempo play, and the hag player considers this not in their favor? If they play a 1pp/2pp/3pp that you can't trade in to die you're doin' pretty well.
Ryder Brown
Roost is back, bois.
James Richardson
I hope you not fucking with me and this deck worth it. But what about Satan Cat Nep deck?
Sebastian Parker
legendaries are supposed to have strong effects, and all snow white did was go 2 for 1 as a stat stick >its okay that grimnir consistently goes 2 for 1 though
Ayden Clark
>Nerfs don't count if they were during a beta It amazes me how far disconnected from reality Haven players are.