Why isn't there 30 threads about this car?

>1.4
>turbo

Because the Miata/MX-5 looks a lot better.

More reliable for a start.

oh look a ruined miata

Mainly because Meh, it's not as good as the 86 twins or as faggy as a Miata so what is there to say.

put your trip back on mjet

Because it's not the lexus lc500

>has a turbo
>only has 9 (nine) more horsepower than a naturally aspirated miata
HOW

No replacement for displacement :^)

2.0 vs. 1.4T

>italian car with a little 1.4 liter turbo is more reliable than a japanese na car.

Arent they both built in Japan?

>TFW the Miata is becoming the American Muscle Car in this scenario

Basically, its a Miata with Italian stylings, seating, and ergonomics but FIAT hating is an Veeky Forums hobby

what could have been

That's one happy Fiat.

It's a roastiemobile

it gets better

Yes. Mazda has really screwed the pooch on this, it's the least reliable convertible on sale.

Looks fucking ugly

youtube.com/watch?v=W-YcpWYAido

Because it's not a shitty nipbox that needs gazzilion of shill threads

The 1.4T engine is already used in many Fiat cars. Its not bad, for Fiat standards its reliable. But when you compare with the Mazda 1.5 and 2.0 its not quite there.

Because Fiat can't do this.

Because Veeky Forums hates Fiat.

>opinions

It makes more power and looks better. Also, easier to mod.

>We could have had pic related
>We could have had Lowie Vermeersch' magnum opus at Pininfarina
>We could have had a 240 hp, 1.75L turbo power Miata
And Sergio fucked it all up. God fucking dammit.

mpg on boost not so good
this too
the newer matai are not talked about much either

Forgot to mention
>You could have bought a brand new Alfa Romeo Spider
>A brand new red Alfa Spider (!)
>With Mazda reliability
>With excuisite design work from the guy that brought you the 458, FF, GranCabrio and SGC003
>With, at 240hp, the best engine ever offered in a Miata
>With 300hp easily within reach
>YOU COULD HAVE OWNED THE BEST ITALIAN ROADSTER EVER PUT ON A ROAD, PERIOD

2 rare 4 me
they should at lest give it an iterative name
not that it would make parts catalogues and go-ogle search any less of a cluster fuck of mislabelled years

peak aesthetic is never coming back

stock suspension set up is a bit more usable

It's an Italian roadster. Roadster tiers are as follows:
>Italian
>British
>Japanese
With desirability at the top, and reliability at the bottom (British is neither btw). You can own an Italian looking roadster, with Japanese reliability now. If you don't think that's cool, get out of Veeky Forums.

that looks fat and dull and those headlights would never have made it to production.

give it some time. it will become a youth car like the brz/86, they just need to lower the asking price a tad bit

Because it's a Fiat and the chances of one making it off the showroom floor or lot, and onto the road without breaking down is about 1% out of 99%.

It's a Mazda though.

oh

Is it bad that I want to see one of these riced out?

>Making threads about FCA vehicles

I'm not into scat talk OP

Given how riced they come from the factory, no.

For the 10th time this thread, it's not built by FCA.

>A mazda with Fiat engine

Doesn't sound much better to be honest...

The 1.4 turbo is one of the actually decent thing to have come from FCA in the last few year. Reasonably reliable (especially by FCA standards) and it makes the 2.0 Skyactiv look like a lump of pig iron:
>More power
>More torque
>Twice the powerband
>200whp with a tune

Looks nice desu, I'm not against getting one

and it would cost twice as much as the Miata and would still fall apart first.

theres a reason the 124 Spider became what it is today, they needed it to compete in the same price range as the Miata, targeting different customer groups while sharing as many parts as possible between the two.

Sounds cool until you're stuck going to the dealership to see Tony...

>and it would cost twice as much as the Miata
That's still a pretty good pricepoint, it could definitely compete with the 718 and A110.
>and would still fall apart first.
Built by Mazda.

If it's under warranty, who cares, if it's not, why not go to the Mazda dealership instead?

Cause their dildo is exactly the same size

If you don't enjoy those, maybe you should reconsider a car targeted at gay people like yourself.

I own a fiat 500 abarth and i can confirm that these 1.4 t engines are fucking awesome. The noise it makes, the torque, it makes me go hard every time i cold start my car.

>fiat 500 abarth

>busrider

>Italian
>reliable
pick ONE (1)

Well they're both built by the same company but only one of them breaks gearboxes.

What target group the Spider aim for? Hairdressers?

The Fiat engines and transmissions are really reliable. They are currently my favorite 4 cylinder engine (gives big BRAAAAAAPS)

It may be styled by Italians but it looks like an American car

Price doesnt stop the Tesla shills who mass spam this board.

Tesla shills are to Veeky Forums
as
Nintendo shills are to /v/

Tesla fanbase =the Nintendo fanbase of cars

Difference between nintendo and tesla is that nintendo makes a good product while the Tesla is so bad my 500 abarth is faster around the nuburgring.

FIX
IT
AGAIN
TONY

I'm pretty sure the Tesla fanbase is the iPhone crowd.
Won't be long before you have people saying they were "passed down a tesla for cheap because a family member bought a new one but it's actually pretty good"

Mix
At
Zgain
Dony,
Again

Noone said it was reliable, just more reliable than the Mazda.

Because it's equipped with an FCA engine so you'd have to go to a Fiat/Dodge/Chrysler dealer.

>literally one of the best small turbo engines in the whole world known for making hundred thousands of miles without problems and thats been around for over a decade is more reliable than a modern engine filled with unnecessary shit
ya

Funny, wasn't that the engine in the Dart?

Yes, though it was the most shit variation of the engine. It had the multiair system in its early state of production, which was prone to breaking all the fucking time.

Mata-te, mjet

im not mjet though, I dont even drive a fiat
is mjet the only fca shill allowed here

>Touts the 1.4T as one of the best
>Except in that one car

Something tells me the Mazda will be more reliable...

>1.4L
>Convertible
>More expensive than a FiST
>Slower than a FiST

Why wouldn't I just buy the Fiesta?

>>We could have had a 240 hp, 1.75L turbo power Miata
This makes sense and probably what they wanted to do at first. Its the only thing that would make this car worth it at the price point its at.

that's because people are emotionally invested into the cars they shit on the tesla with. For all the hype over the dodge lemon and real hypercars, they're still slower to 60 than a 5000 pound, 7 seat commuter that's not even trying to be fast

Whatever tells you that it's not statistics or facts.

I'll just go with the fact that one has a Dodge Dart engine in it.

Because the FiST isn't a convertible, and it's heavier.

>Its the only thing that would make this car worth it at the price point its at.
No. The 124 is already cheaper than the MX-5 in some areas, it's perfectly at home at this level of hp/$. If you managed to give it
>250hp
>Alfa badge
>Better interior
It could compete with the 718/A110.

And yeah, it's exactly what they wanted to do. The 2010 Alfa concept already had a 1.75T in it, but Marchionne insisted on every Alfa being made in Italy. Mazda of course refuses, and so the FCA MX-5 gets a Fiat sauce and becomes the 124 Spider. Meanwhile, Marchionne still wants a sporty RWD 2 seater to kickstart Alfa's development, and so instead of using an FR layout, they go with a MR car (to share extra part with the Giulietta QV), that becomes the 4C. If Marchionne hadn't insisted on Italian-built Alfa's, the FCA Spider project would have gone much more upmarket than the 124 has, but not as much as the 4C eventually did.

Being a convertible is a minus, not a plus. Only old boomer fucks want a shitty cloth roof instead of a proper one.

Badges mean shit, that garbage is for women. I couldn't give a fuck what badge a car has if its a good car, only some beta cuck needs that shit to impress roasties or random people.

This car and the Miata both need more HP and a coupe version, otherwise they're just a shitty car.

>Being a convertible is a minus, not a plus.
t. has never driven top-down at 7/10ths in sunny Tuscany.

>Badges mean shit
Badges add market value. If you don't understand this, you don't undersand economics or cars in general.

If you want more hp out of a 124 Spider, you can have 200whp for only 700USD. They don't need a coupe version, since there is no demand for them. Well, except maybe you, but you're not worth building a coupe for, financially speaking. If you think they're shitty, again, I refer you to the spirited drive in the sunny Tuscan hills.

>tfw you drove a Lambo on Lambo vineyard
Feels good man. The ride home in that shitbox of an NA6 felt even better rhough.

Costs too much.
As a car it's fine, but as an Veeky Forums topic it's too expensive. Wait until you can pick them up for 20k used and under and you'll see people start modding them and shitposting.

>t. has never driven top-down at 7/10ths in sunny Tuscany.
Thats bullshit, not about performanc. You can do that in any cheap convertible and frankly, I don't care about it. Its lame and what old guys do.

>Badges add market value. bla bla bla
A car is for driving, and just because a car holds its value wont make me buy a shitty car, and it adds nothing to its performance.

>If you want more hp out of a 124 Spider, you can have 200whp for only 700USD
And probably void the warranty. Cars made for Driving for people who ENJOY DRIVING like the Mustang, come with bullshit out of the dealership you can add without voiding a warranty.

> They don't need a coupe version, since there is no demand for them.
There has been demand for a coupe Miata for ages

>but you're not worth building a coupe for, financially speaking.
Why are you adding in snobbery into a car discussion? This is a car forum for young guys in college that are all broke or making young guy money. Its unrelated and you might as well start going ooba gooba and posting about your dick being 14" and immature as fuck.

All this unneeded crap they add into the Fiata or power its missing, is exactly why its called a hairdresser car.
Now read the OP post

>Why isn't there 30 threads about this car?
>Why isn't there 30 threads about this car?

Because the car is not:
-fast
-coupe
- cheap for what it is

I actually think the Abarth 124 is the best looking car available right now because of how small it is. The only way it could have been better is with ~220hp and a more boxy rear end

A car is more than it's performance.

>Its lame and what old guys do.
That's just, like, your opinion, man.

>just because a car holds its value wont make me buy a shitty car
A car with less depreciation is cheaper. An Lexus, will, in general, hold it's value better than a Ford, and if they were to magically cost the same to buy outright, than the car with less depreciation costs less.

>And probably void the warranty.
Most tuners offer extended warranties exactly for this reason.

>There has been demand for a coupe Miata for ages
There has been demand, and, no snobbery here, it's just you and a few others on specialised automotive forums with not enough money to burn to be worth spending millions of dolalrs of development money on, because we (me included) won't and can't buy it, even if we wanted to.

It's faster than an ND and cheaper. The 124 and the ND are the cheapest RWD 2 seaters you can buy, if that's not ''cheap for what it is'' I don't know what magically is. You're just salty about the (frankly delusional) lack of a coupe, every single ''automotive enthousiast'' is, but somehow, after decades of market research, Mazda won't be building them for the open market. I think that says something about the open market, don't you think?

>Cars made for Driving for people who ENJOY DRIVING like the Mustang

>Mustang
>Driver's car
10/10 bait right there.