he MR2 SW20 is a good car. Snap oversteer was eliminated with the 2nd generation. Any other arguments?
He MR2 SW20 is a good car. Snap oversteer was eliminated with the 2nd generation. Any other arguments?
Wyatt Morris
Brayden Brown
I though snap over steer was a fault of the driver that occurred due to driving it like it was FR.
Did they relocate the engine in the 2nd gen?
Nicholas Lee
No, they gave it bigger wheels and improved the suspension.
Benjamin Peterson
>implying there is anything wrong with snap oversteer
it's the perfect way for one to kill himself
Michael Powell
Fantastic thread. Golly gosh how I wonder and lay awake at night laying next to my teddy bear, wondering: "Is the SW20 Toyota MR2 a good car"
Benjamin Ross
>Is the MR2 a good car
Yes.
>Snap oversteer was eliminated
No. That's a driver error, simple as that.
In 1993 though, Toyota made slight changes to the rear suspension so the toe wouldn't change as much under load, put on slightly larger sway bars and gave the car wider/bigger wheels. Many people believe that this "fixed" snap oversteer in 1993 but in reality all the car really needed was those 15" wheels and a good driver.
>Any other arguments
Stop spreading this shit and read up, also here's a picture and video of a Diablo spinning out while chasing an MR2. youtu.be
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Joshua Hughes
But it's ugly and boring at the same time, it's not even good performance wise
Daniel Diaz
>That's a driver error
Brody Allen
It still can't beat AE86 on the touge
Hunter Collins
Best MR2 can.
Bentley Foster
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Carson Rodriguez
I bet it couldn't beat 4A-GE
Levi Barnes
True shit youtu.be
Austin Cooper
it cant be fixed, they've just hidden it better
Josiah Johnson
The 3S GTE and GE are very reliable engines, also a lot of power.
Samuel Brooks
yeah it's slow as fuck
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Kevin Ramirez
So is the 300hp Silvia that he fails miserably with afterwards....? youtu.be
Says more about the Civic with good tires and intensive mods than it does about the stock mr2 on stock tires
Evan Powell
Did the turbo really weigh one and a half fucking tonnes? w e w lad thats pigfat
Gavin Hughes
shut
you are going to drive prices up
Nathaniel Lee
God fuck off
Jose Cooper
The turbo mr2 shouldn't be anywhere near 3000lbs. Depending on how you optioned them they could be 2500lbs to 2700ish max. My turbo mr2 came in at 2600ish pounds and the only things it was missing was power steering and abs. That being said I think the Rev 3s 94+ were a lot heavier because they got a huge power upgrade to 280hp with the gts model.
Angel Williams
>depending on how you optioned them they could be 2500lbs to 2700lbs max
Not true, the lightest SW20 turbo was around 2650 lbs (iirc) to almost 2800. The lightest models were the 5S-FE and 3S-FE non-turbos that weighed around 2550 lbs.
>That being said I think the Rev 3s 94+ were a lot heavier because they got a huge power upgrade to 280hp with the gts model
Rev 3s in all markets got a passenger airbag and a couple of other things, making them much heavier. The highest power output of any SW20s ever was around 240 HP and a similar amount of torque, but the US market never got an SW20 making more than 200 HP and 200 LBS/FT of torque. The only differences in the Rev 3 Turbo models (GT and GT-S) was the switch to the 3rd gen 3S-GTE, which had lower compression ratio connecting rods, a better turbo, and bigger injectors, which shouldn't have contributed to any considerable amount of weight gain.
Sebastian Wilson
its ugly as shit compared to the first generation, defeating the purpose of getting a sporty mid-engine car in the first place (swagging out)