[Daily Bike Thread - /dbt/]

Where did the meme that lower CC bikes weigh less and handle better come from? A ninja 300 is within 20-40 lbs of a literpeter, most 6-700cc twins weigh as much or more than one. Not to mention they have garbage budget suspension and frame design, and skinny wheels that you can only buy shitty commuter rubber for. Aside from a few rare smol bikes (MC22, 400cc supersports, RS250) most low cc bikes would get spanked up and down any touge by any real supersport.

>its been a year since ive been on two wheels
Kill me lads, ill ride in valhalla

All that stuff

Jump start it if you can, pigfat pieces of shit like are extremely hard to bumpstart.

ye i mean why all that
is there more info

whats stopping you lel

Ah alright, was just wondering if I was doing something wrong or it's just the nature of the bike's weight+displacement.

Oh sorry. I'm always stupidly tired, have been for years a few years now and it makes my day job as a sheet metal fabricator very difficult. Fortunately I work for my parents so I can have time off to recover but I don't get paid when I do, and I have a lot of finances to cover so not getting paid means the debt racks up pretty quickly.

I suffer from quite bad anxiety and depression as it is, which I'm on meds for, but that situation isn't really helping things. I have very little motivation to do much these days because of it, getting out of bed to brush my teeth or having a shower is like running a marathon sometimes.

Money and time
>cheapest bikes in area are 3k
>make 26k a year and 75% of that goes to rent
>the rest is for food
I also work around 60 hours a week and was dumb enough to have children so..

It probably wasn`t fast enough to keep it going. I left my old XT to sit for a year and predictably the battery was dead. I used a rope a towed it with my KLR because pushing is for peasants.

Waiting for april to get a 1290 superduke r. Can't wait famalam. It scares me a little though. I had a D tracker 125, er5, now a dorsoduro 750, but nothing with truly arm-ripping torks like the SDR

Yeah, I figured not enough speed was one of the reasons. Wouldn't exactly try towing it myself considering I didn't have anyone else to sit on it. Or even a rope.

Watch out for open flames.

You'll be okay my dude, I went from CBR125 to CBR500 to Tuono 1100RR in 2 years. Ride the Duke regularly for a week or two and don't push beyond your limits and you'll feel at home on it pretty quickly.

sell one of your kids ?

>tuono v4
Hnnnngg m8. Yeah I spent about 3 years going up in bikes due to eurocuck laws. I've been looking at a tuono 1100 but I'm afraid it's not the hoonbike I want even though it looks and sounds like pure sex. I ride alot in city environments and the hueg torks and high handlebar of the dorso came in handy when filtering and shit. The abysmal fuel tank is a bummer though, 10-11 liters max

Man i dont even have custody, i just keep them for the weekends.
>but theyre both under 5 so its not like i can leave even if i had a bike.

best head I’ve ever had

>but I'm afraid it's not the hoonbike I want

Dude it's an animal, you can wheelie it just about any time you want, I've had it flat out in 4th at about 140, hit a bump and had a sizeable wheelie on my hands. I don't spend much time on the rear wheel.

That being said, you do get more torx with the Duke lower down so it'd still be more of a hoon machine than the Ape, but the Ape is still a total hoon machine.

And the noise, oh the noise...

SAME
Dude get yourself another job.
Even my entry level office position pays better than that, and I work 40/week.
Then you can afford it and have time to ride on weekdays.

Thanks user!
I'll continue doing some research!

If you can go try some lids on, I don't get on with AGVs for an example whereas other swear by them, the Shoeis could well be the same.

Hmmm. Thanks user, I'll book a testride for the tuono 1100 as well then.
Next question, how do I made "my" tuono sound like this rsv4
youtube.com/watch?v=q3WdxhXlLpcMUH DICC

Why are European girls so ugly
Her head is like pea sized

A Ninja 250 might not be that much lighter, but it feels much easier to ride fast and push the limit. But it's true, when people talk about 250s beating 600s, they're really talking about the difference in rider skill, which has nothing to do with the bike itself.

Put that kind of exhaust on it, my Tuono has the Pro Race GP which you can see here: And it sounds just like that.

Be warned though exhausts for the Tuono are heinously expensive.

I fugged up
youtube.com/watch?v=q3WdxhXlLpc

MUH DICC

>expensive
The SDR's full akra system are 2.5k eurobucks lmap

Same for the Tuono. £980 just for an Akra slip on.

Which type of bike sustains the least damage from being lowsided on pavement? I'm looking for a fun bike in the twisties that I won't feel too bad about crashing (I've had to pay a few hundred euro to replace fairings on my ADV bike, I'd rather not do that again). I was thinking maybe a supermoto or naked bike, since there's no fairings to scratch, but on the other hand, if I put cheap or damaged fairings on a sportbike, they would protect the rest of the bike. Which do you think is better?

You already answered your own question, supermotos and naked as there's less body work to damage. Even better if crash protection is fitted.

>V Twin gf edition
where to get gf (male) tho?

one of us one of us

desu senpai if you dont ride it like a squid it’s really not intimidating, it’s got plenty of low end torque that you really don’t have to redline it like those i4 fagets constantly. you can just cruise with it around town at low rpm and know that with a flick of a wrist it can damn near rip your ass off that seat like a soyboy, plus with the traction control modes it will help save you from yourself

tl;dr
don’t do stupid high rev shit in 1st or 2nd and you’ll be fine, probably

Supermoto with engine guards
Or a stuntbike with a full cage
Ive seen caged f4i's slide at 90mph and smash barriers
If the bars were still attached you could ride it home.

>Let CB touch the shivvy for a couple minutes
>Battery's drained

>650cc will do everything a 1000cc will do better except marginal increases in straight-line acceleration and top-end speed, both should only be important for squids, but a 650 will be lighter and corner better, also cost less to buy, fuel, maintain, ect. Main performance difference is the ability to perform with added weight.

KEK Holy shit this is a retarded thing to say. No a 650 will not do everything a 1000 will do but better. You are high as fuck. Also a 650 twin often DOES NOT WEIGH LESS. A modern liter weighs between 430-458lbs curb weight. The twins weigh between 404-476lbs curb. Even a Honda 500x weighs like 430lbs. The twin that weighs 404 does not offer any wind protection and runs mid 12 second quarter and tops out at like 127mph and has(by comparison) a budget bin chassis, suspension, dash, electronics (including many options not even available), and brakes when compared to the liters. It offers better mpg but at the tradeoff of the size of the fuel tank so range is still similar. (which is also why it weighs less wet vs wet) The 650 twins are a much lower spec level bike, which is fine for what they are.

>I suffer from quite bad anxiety and depression as it is, which I'm on meds for, but that situation isn't really helping things. I have very little motivation to do much these days because of it, getting out of bed to brush my teeth or having a shower is like running a marathon sometimes.
fuck man way to relatable, was on meds because of literally the same for three years
>literally just stopped taking the meds because I felt like they just fuck me over even harder
literally nothing changed except for that it got even worse for one week where I was pissed 24/7 and almost ruined every friendship I had because of that
F
>relationships
god damn it user why did this happen
because she's orange

>literally just stopped taking the meds because I felt like they just fuck me over even harder

I'm in the process of coming off of mine, but I'm gonna stay on them a while longer until the weather picks up, winter just makes me miserable. I'm on a lower than usual dose tho.

I'm miserable most of the time though, very irritable and whatnot. Luckily I don't have any friends to push away so there's that, but my gf is super supportive.

>sick of fz-07
>its fun but jesus i need some speed in my life
>not man enough to commit to a leader
Gsxr-750 then?

This

To be honest shaking my head, family.

More powerful engines and higher power-to-weight ratios always go up with the weight of the machine.

Unlike cars, the rider's weight and cargo figure more heavily.

A heavier machine is harder to control. A lighter rider is less able to control a heavier machine.

In the motorcycle world, most close competitors in a category compete very closely, like they copy each other's specs and then look to design around their patents. All day, everyday, not like the car world, manufacturers size up their competition and size each other up, and unleash a basically identical product.

Also, the performance gap between 250/600/1000+ bikes isn't as steep as you might think. 0-60 in 8/5/4 seconds, to be very general.

Honestly the 750 is 95% as fast as the 1000, so if you're afraid of a 1000 the 750 isn't really your answer. A faster 600 in the 115-130hp range might be a better answer.

>Gsxr-750
YEAH
AAAAAAAHAAA
youtube.com/watch?v=Isj0oBjfrxE

>doesn't have friends
>has a GF
wew dud it was the other way round for me, but sounds good. You'll sound like you are on the way to a better recovery. at least for me I am still getting angry sometimes but most of the time I can control it and not bitch at all the people, and it's way better to feel angry than to feel the numbness that you (or at least I) get from taking the meds

V TWIN LITERPETER

>relationships
If you call it that.
>in reality i just didnt wrap it up and got 2 bitches pregnant
College... If i could go back id kill myself to make that not happen.
>at least i had a motorcycle then
Life is a bitch

Back at it with the soy boy cuffs

Older low capacity bikes used to be built to the same standard as the bigger bikes, so they were basically just small proportioned big bikes and handles well and were surprisingly fast for their size (read still a lot slower than bigger bikes).

Now smaller bikes are built on a budget because they're marketed at teenagers, so they're made with heavier steel frames rather than nicer aluminium frames like your pic related, and weak engines to meet emissions and licensing regulations.

So you wanna be scum?
Suzuki is perfect for you

>mfw was complete autismo so never had this problem
>now I am just too bored to actually do something with women because they're like just shallow and have no depth in their personality
I write with them in order to get some pics to share with the brothers but man, I'd never hit it I think
oy vey, so you're pretty fucked, eh? I assume america?

Honestly the worst part of the meds for me is the brain fog. I used to be fucking smart, was studying a degree in astrophysics, now I struggle to do basic arithmetic and spelling, and it's horrible.

Post taiwanese 300 """"fireblade""""

Yeah, the differences are marginal. I'm pretty sure I used the word marginal to whatever you responded to a well.

The weight difference between a 650 and 1000 bike is meaningless, a beer-gut or half-full gas tank can make the difference.

Also totally depending on the engine. A 1200cc Sportster will get smoked by a 600cc Jap sportsbike all day forever.

Bike weight and how it's centered on a bike, matters significantly with handling, even the left-and-right steering lock angles for the same models with different engines, so I will always bet on a 650cc to outperform a 1000+cc in twisties, no matter the make or model.

>Also, the performance gap between 250/600/1000+ bikes isn't as steep as you might think. 0-60 in 8/5/4 seconds, to be very general.

WTF? Who told you this?

yaas queen, relateable!
I'd tell you it's all up from here and things can only get better but I guess we both know that's just bullshit lel
I mean if you can lie to yourself that hard to convince you of it, I can guarantee you that it works, but most people can't

>so I will always bet on a 650cc to outperform a 1000+cc in twisties, no matter the make or model.
That's literally the most retarded thing I've ever heard. Are you retarded user?

>I can't actually think when I take my medication

You ride a motorcycle though?

You trying to get on the SS Disability gravy train?

Hes not wrong though.
People dont consider weight

I can focus, and I've never had any problems riding, but when it comes to focusing on intricacies like maths, and in my engineering job working out measurements and angles and stuff, I just really struggle whereas I used to be fine.

Thankfully my riding has come out unscathed, though I did start riding when I was on meds so I've known no different.

It's been the same shit for 3 years now, I'm fully aware it isn't gonna change. Hopefully coming off of the meds helps a little bit.

Am I being trolled? We've already discussed that a 650 weighs more than a literpeter.

In my experience, the lighter bikes handle the corners better than heavier, faster bikes.

Something to do with mass, momentum, limits to friction, ect. I'm not a physics major, but I know a 30,000lb semi with 900 horsepower truck doesn't corner as well a 3,000, 90 hp economy car, so I doubt a 600lb motorcycle corners better than a 400lb one.

Show me the 400lb liter

>Average liter
>180-200kg
>180-200hp
>Average 650
>200-240kg
>60-70hp

No

I hope the same my dude.

>Honda CBR1000RR wet weight - 440 lbs
>Suzuki SV650 wet weight - 435 lbs
>Ducati 1299 Panigale wet weight - 420 lbs
>Kawasaki Ninja 650 wet weight - 465 lbs

>picks the heaviest twins
Kek

>420 lbs
dude blaze it xd

Yes tho
An actual liter is a race crafted speed machine
A 650-class is a learner/citybike

>where to get gf (male) tho?
Grindr

So the 650 is better on the street
Thanks for clearing that up

So I guess the answer to is that people are brain damaged and don't know what they're talking about. Don't know why I'm surprised.

You're talking about the FZ-07 aren't you? The bike world renowned for it's absolutely garbage suspension and worst in class handling, yes that really helps your argument, I'm sure that 20 lbs it saves makes a fucking world of difference. See above.

Supermoto with handguards, exhaust, axle and peg sliders. It pretty much keeps the rest of the bike off the ground.

Youre a moron

Let's talk gear. What brand do you guys trust and why?

Everyone knows 300s are kings of the toogay

Why is everyone in this thread so retarded? Before you can even compare 1000s to 650s, you have to decide what type of motorcycle you're actually talking about, comparing a SS I4 literpeter to a V twin sport touring 650 makes zero sense.

You consider 12.5'ish second quarter mile and top speed under 130mph to be "marginally" different to the 9's second quarter and top speed in excess of 180 of a literpeter? Liters trap 140's-150's in the quarter mile while the top speed of the 650 twins is 20+mph under that and trap around 106-108mph or so. The 0-60mph times are significantly quicker for the 1000's. Not marginally. Significantly. Trapping over 40mph in the quarter difference with like 60mph more top end. 9's vs 12's. It's not even close.

THAT is NOT marginal. And to say that you would take a 650 over a 1000cc in twisties is also just optimistic to the point of making me laugh. Dude, superbikes were MADE for twisties.

There are vids of 50hp supermotos stomping on liters
Just stop making yourself look like an idiot and walk away

>A fucking single cylinder poo in loo bike
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAH YOU CANT BE FUCKING SERIOUS

My brand>your brand

Found the child

Yeah around go-kart tracks
I'm not him but literbikes are faster than just anything else stock around a full circuit or road course

Where in this entire thread have supermoto been mentioned?

...

Do you hear the Benny Hill theme song in your head while you type?

Fly racing is hugely under rated and i love all my gear from them

I don't trust any brand. Every single piece I ever owned has failed in doing what I want it to within 2 years.

Shoei, Alpinestar, sidi, spiidi, there's lot of others too that's just what I wear

>there are people RIGHT NOW on /dbt/ unironically arguing that a 650 meme-machine will outperform a superbike in ANY category

OH NO NO NO NO *breathes in*

Good lord your dumb

my brand>his brand>your brand>literal dirt>HJC

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA