Blizzard really fucked up with Garrosh's representation in Heroes of the Storm. His abilities and role do not fit his character fantasy in any way. His kit should have been for another character.
Yes, he is fun to play. But he should have been a bruiser, like Artanis, but with burst and less focus on defense and with an ability to force 1v1.
>what Blizzard devs did Hey guys we plan to release Garrosh somewhere in summer 2017 Fast forward summer 2017 Alright guys just attach some existing kit to Garrosh and release him. And dont forget to make a legendary skin + bike with a bunch of tints
Dominic Robinson
is getting energy with auriel bad? seems i can't heal most of the time (and my other "heal option" its stukov and i don't like his design
Brody Carter
sonya on solo lane. u can be a braindead retard on her (like all the ppl in hotsg) and the best rag ever, u will still lose the lane to sonya as in she will be hand pushing your towers after the first creep wave
Ryder Baker
It's dependent on a decent crown target. Cord is a thing at 7, but that's more of a backup if your assassins play like trash.
Benjamin Turner
It's a Blizzard game, don't expect too much solid coding.
Michael Jenkins
I agree
Matthew Reyes
So how is the new Ragnaros?
Joseph Ortiz
Probably a bit weaker but it doesn't matter since he's only picked for his trait anyway.
Cooper Nelson
What the hell on Stukov UI patch?! I cannot understand developer. I think you have some eye disease. You really made second DEAD GAME. Do not compel your philosophy. This is your result. Your team really have some problem? So Another AOS game had dead because of Visibility? On the contrary, they success their game because of Cool effect. This is GAME not Experiment simulator!! I really cannot understand stukov patch. Your philosophy really made Heroes of the Storm Second Dead game. Get out your team and go ophthalmology.
Ryan Stewart
How many translator services did you run that through
Eli Long
But they didn't even do anything to his Q build
Nathaniel Thomas
I fucking LOVE playing this hero, throwing enemies around is some of the best fun I've had this game. And then level 7 kicks in and I start throwing my allies, fucking incredible. >ally low health, throw him to safety >ally chasing enemy, throw him on enemy Shame he is somewhat bad though. Hopefully he will get a buff or 2.
Ryan Lopez
What buff do you think he needs, more hp or damage? I think he's fine though.
Angel Gray
His W needs a buff and possibly he might need a slight hp buff.
Right now he doesn't have any sustain and is too easily killed.
Blake Ward
Either needs a bit more hp, or slightly more consistent self-sustain. The big difference between him and varian (aside from garrosh throwing faggots all over the place) is that varian can be [PROTECTED] for next to fucking forever.
Don't want to buff W too much so he just sits at low HP and never dies, and don't want to buff hp too much so he becomes impossible to burst, but he needs a little bit of tweaking in that regard.
Also I would like him to not be able to throw your over walls. It's unfun to play against and leads to way too many silly kills (or easy means of griefing).
Luke Ortiz
HOLY SHIT Tyrande Owl build is garbage!!
After stacking the owl whole match long, hitting an Abathur literally sitting next to spawn takes about 85% of his HP
Not only is that retarded, you're loosing two of the other absolute beast talents on lvl1
They need to fucking buff the owl somehow. Make the quest talent give more dmg per stack or CD reduction higher.
Nathaniel Martin
8~12% more health would be enough. Still in burst range, but it's what he needs to function as frontline.
>wallthrowing is unfun, remove it How about you keep ficking playing and get good? Denouncing the one aspect that's highly skill dependent on Garrosh's side and has counterplay in proper positioning is fucking stupid, ESPECIALLY since he's only been out for 2 days. Fucking redditor shit.
Lucas Ward
If only Alarak could clear creep waves...
Camden Lopez
I wish Garrosh did any damage at all, he barely feels like a tank half the time either and I didn't want him added just so he could have pulls and gimmick CC, give him an execute somewhere or something for fucks sake.
Ryan Young
Wallthrowing is unfun *and* it leads to disproportionate rewards for how easy it is to do, especially early on.
>chase garrosh at all LOLOL WALLTHROW HURR DURR DIE UNDER KEEP FUGFACE
Carter Cooper
>be a retard >get punished for it and die >"this is unfair remove it!!!44" How about just not going near Garrosh under his tower while the ability is not on cd? It's the same with Diablo. I got pushed into his base once, then I never made the same mistake again.
Jose Wilson
Today I learned that you don't party up in QM with low ranks, if you want to win. They're gold/silver/bronze for a reason and that reason is not because "team is noob" or because they are "stuck in elo hell".
Jayden Roberts
The difference is that garrosh can pop you over a wall from a lot further range. Q covers something like 5 range? maybe a bit more. So Q->E moves you 9 and over a wall.
Elijah Brown
Stealth is bullshit and should just be removed. No, I have no problem spotting it. The problem is that the game is still zoomed in like a game from 15 years and on top of all the flashy effects and oversized UI (that btw cannot be made smaller because that would be too confusing) you have to have your fucking screen around the area where the stealth shitter is to be able to see him.
Cameron Ward
stealth isn't the problem it's the fact that mobas seriously consider this claustrophobic camera as acceptable
Noah Rodriguez
>tfw mediv in qm >people actually use portals
David Clark
>wah it's not my fault I can't carry lower ranked players
Henry Walker
I'm gonna spend Doritos today. On what?
I have Sad Cloud. And I got Blue Cloud before Happy Cloud was announced, so I don't think I'm gonna get Happy Cloud.
So, what else is there?
Daniel Russell
>abathur in QM >stays on respawn >doesn't use copy
Ayden Powell
great pasta potential
Grayson Morris
Matching banners now that they show up more.
Easton Thompson
I can though? That's why I'm not silver like you.
Gabriel Adams
fitting announcer(s) for your favorite heroes
Alexander Turner
>using anything but Butcher announcer
Jordan Brooks
Garrosh announcer exists.
Ryder Morris
I pulled Aba yesterday. He works well with all Zerg, so that's nice.
Hm. They need to make more banners.
Logan Martin
Garrosh is good, players are bad.
Discuss.
Benjamin Wood
Does he really fit less manly characters such as Brightwing, Lunara, Murky, or Varian? Exactly >Aba for zergs Welp, that was what I was going to tell you in the first place, good for you for already having that. You could get Hammernouncer for terran heroes though maybe
Luis Campbell
Garrosh is only good against bad players?
Joseph Ross
What's the chance of Chromie getting a price reduction any time soon? I just unboxed Fel Queen, but I'm too hebrew for 10,000.
Robert Torres
he fits everything no silly chatter no spam about forts\deaths
only FRESHMEAT
Easton Long
Honestly if he throws you over his wall its a bit on you
Evan Richardson
Doesn't that make you hungry
Colton White
actually its the opposite
Jackson Thompson
>literally everyone is on low health after a fight >"hey you know what's a good idea? reengaging" >lose game
Most games people don't really know what to do in fights so they kind of hang out and try to poke and die one by one when they overextend
Landon Stewart
Garrosh's wall toss range is pretty high and you're basically zoned from going anywhere near a turret.
Jeremiah Evans
Does heroesfire work yet?
Aaron Smith
>nova pings you a million times for not joining their suicide attack against the entire enemy team at once
James Parker
Post your loadouts
Brandon Perry
That could be fun, but I do get tired of her voice after a while.
I'll look at my options.
After work, I'll post my faves.
Alexander Kelly
Why is every single Nova exactly the same person?
Dominic Butler
I know this is a long shot since you're probably shitposting but are you accepting recruits for grinding?
Charles Moore
Can't all be the same person. There is at least one fag who mains Triple Tap because he can't aim, and then there's the guy who takes Precision Strike.
Gavin Collins
You have to fill out a 17 page guild application and then come on teamspeak for an interview.
Dominic Sullivan
pale wolf red eyes shattered hand garrosh horde warbanner jaina hello spray garrosh announcer
Jackson Sullivan
They're just so stereotypical
>i was roaming (i was standing between lanes hoping someone can do 90% of the work for me) >they're taking top boss (they took bottom boss) >wtf help me (hard cc/heal through the entire team because i got caught out in the middle of their death ball)
Charles Jackson
Groundbreaker (Q) fails at representing Garrosh because it deals pathetic damage and the animation+visual design of the ability fits a shaman much more than a warrior, especially one like Garrosh who is all about physical strength. HITS THE GROUND WITH AXE - PULLS ENEMIES OVER Why?
Bloodthirst (W) fails at representing Garrosh for the same reasons as Groundbreaker. Why the hell would Garrosh heal from an attack? Also it is a generic heal attack. We already have a bunch of generic heal attacks in HotS - Thrall D, Stitches E, Alarak E, Ragnaros Q...
Wrecking Ball (E) fits Garrosh. However, this ability would be out of place if Garrosh wasn't made a team dependent warrior.
Warlord's Challenge (R1) fits Garrosh's "I'll do it myself", "one versus the world" attitude well. But why the hell is this heroic called Warlord's Challenge? Why not Warchief's Challenge? Garrosh is a Warlord only in WoD. Other than that it is strange that Blizzard decided to give him an AoE Varian ult.
A mak'gora heroic that lets him duel an opponent would be a much better thing to see in the game (and now we probably will never see it - what other character in Blizzard's franchises is known for dueling?) And before anyone claims it would be OP or a "free support kill" ability, it could be designed in various ways.
Decimate (R2) is some pathetic parody of Bladestorm that deals very low damage for what the ugly and unfitting for Garrosh animation would imply. This would be better off as a basic ability desu.
Armor UP (D) is an ok trait and would fit any warrior.
Oppressor (Lvl 7 Talent) is just dumb. This should be a talent for a spellbreaker type character, but not for Garrosh.
Jose Johnson
>A mak'gora heroic that lets him duel an opponent So Varian's taunt ult?
Benjamin Baker
Are there any plans to make pathing less shit?
Liam Adams
Legion Commander's ultimate and the winner becomes defacto MVP of the game.
Jace Jones
nobody cares
Levi Wright
That's a feature, part of the challenge
Julian Scott
Is it wierd that I'm always looking up skins as assets for starcraft 2 mods? Like the in sectoid zag could be a primal zerg broodmother, templar li mieng could be a classic *raised by aliens* type, and Raider Rexxar has his story as a strain of terran mutant spelled out and one could use mad axe hellscream the same way. And that's probably the tip of the iceberg, not even getting into non player assets even.
Ethan Garcia
>Hey remember that time that Stukov was all about healing people.
Angel Murphy
You go AA now with Tyrande.
Nathaniel Kelly
The range to hit max damage needs to be a lot shorter or the damage should scale indefinitely.
Gavin Baker
>tfw have to bully my team into picking lucio + uther aka FUCKING FREE WINS JUMP ON THE GRAVY TRAIN NOW BEFORE EVERONE GETS USED TO IT AND DEVELOPS A COUNTER
Luke Myers
Man I just play the characters I like the personality of
Lincoln Martin
He literally had a healing aura in SC2 campaign.
Joshua Hughes
>Leveling Medivh >Scouting around in bird form >Team constantly follows me around and dies
David Hughes
And he was also about infesting things and spwaning troops, which arguably was what his character was known for.
They even said in the interview about him, that people were clamoring for a evil healer and basically said well he's got a giant monster arm, it's him.
Though how Stukov is considered evil I have no idea.
Ayden Gutierrez
Why not just pick Auriel and Uther?
Zachary King
I don't know if he's supposed to be a bad guy in starcraft but in game he seems like a kindly old grandpa with a monster arm. He doesn't do or say anything menacing.
Zachary Jenkins
>he thinks auriel is a better sustain healer than lucio
lmao
Julian Scott
He does infest things, he just doesn't shit marines in HotS.
Eli Ross
no it can be done in many different ways for example marks a certain area as the ring for garrosh and the guy he ulted, while in this ring they cannot be affected by neither enemies nor allies. to prevent it from being a kill guarantee ability they could make it so that the enemy can leave the ring , make it so that garrosh cant leave the ring until the makgora ends (in death), etc
Nathan Perez
>to prevent it from being a kill guarantee ability they could make it so that the enemy can leave the ring oh so it's just a ring around garrosh that does nothing, cool
Jace Roberts
How do you even Lucio? I tried him in a brawl once and he just felt useless with his 2heal per sec.
Charles Wood
i just lost a QM game on my smurf lvling and reported all other 9 players for abusive chat hopefully someone gets silenced we could win easily if at least one of the brain dead retards followed me whole game around the map. i asked them in english numerous times then i called out the muradin on being a brain dead piece of ruiner shit and he replied with grammar, typical reddit
Asher Hernandez
Reminder that Garrosh lost ever Mokgora he was in (last one killed him) and the fight against Cairne was only won because Cairne got poisoned by Magatha and Garrosh hit Carine while he was down.
Shitters don't know fantasy.
Matthew Garcia
>tfw gonna report paki for offensive language once he gets unmuted so he gets permamuted
Sebastian Bennett
>good teamplay uther >uther have been a bot since the match started
Matthew Scott
>QM a few games as Uther for Fat Garrosh armor tank and point and click toss follow up. >People have already stopped playing him.
Nolan Howard
Amp it Up baby
Colton Cooper
Day one winrates are out and he's below 50. Shitters don't want to play hard heroes.
Luke Cooper
the passive heal is absolutely worthless 99% of the time when you're trying to heal using amp it up, you should be on speed boost your actual abilities to keep people alive are speed boost and the increased knockback (4 talent) from your Q, use them like that be aware of what CCs and reliable gapclosers the enemy has (diablo charge, greymane jump, etc.) so you know what you can get away with - if they have nothing, get in their fucking face and make plays with your Q
Adam Cruz
Garrosh is shit and not really fun apart from throwing stuff
Michael Smith
meant to be >when you're NOT trying to heal using amp it up, you should be on speed boost
Dylan Edwards
How do u even exist u cancerous reddit fag? You spend 12 hrs at the computer every day and you'd think a person like you would have a minimally active imagination to fill the gaps, but not.It is horrible