How do you survive as an aut/o/ enthusiast in your country?
What car or motorcycle do you drive? How much do you pay in road tax (motorrijtuigenbelasting?) How much is the APK? How much is the insurance?
Also if you ride a bike, how expensive are motorcycle lessons?
I already know how to ride, so it would just be the road behavior stuff. I never bothered to get a license in my country.
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Currently contemplating whether I should get a cheap old car (pre 1978) to avoid road tax. I wouldn't really use it all that much. I'd commute by motorcycle.
t. random dude who end up in your country by accident
You just have to like shitboxes, like me. I'm 18 and saving up for a car right now, but even if I get something that isn't even fast like a E36 323i sedan I will get fucked by insurance. Think I might get a cheap shitbox as first car since I'm such a shit driver that I'll probably crash it anyway. Looking for RWD though so probably something like a Opel Omega or Ford Sierra which are both hilariously cheap. When you get older insurance isn't that bad, for an older car you could go with less than 500 a year if you check well. But actual taxes aren't that bad, between 500 a year for econobox and 2000 a year for a heavy SUV. APK is pretty much a non-issue since you can pay some Romanian 20 bucks to let you pass.
Kayden Ramirez
Well, I mean road tax isn't bad. Taxes on new cars are trough the roof, Subaru WRX STi in the Netherlands is literally double as expensive as in Belgium due to road tax. Same for Mustang etc. And this is reflected in second hand car prices of course. But road tax etc not too bad
Gabriel Russell
>Taxes on new cars are trough the roof, Subaru WRX STi in the Netherlands is literally double as expensive as in Belgium due to road tax. That's BPM, or CO2/emissions tax. Only applies to new cars, which is why there's so many fucking Aygos/C1s/107s on the road around here. And Teslas, since EVs don't have to pay any road tax at all and don't get shafted by any additional taxes new other than 21% BTW/VAT.
Carson James
I commute to my uni by bike. Alot of professors do as well, pic related, most of the R1200gs in there are from physicians and professors (med student here)
I have pirelli angel GT tyres which warm up nicely, have very devent mileage lifetime, and all around gud grip. Grip warmers are noice for warm and toasty hands. I tend to ride as long as its above -5. Obviously not if there's snow or black ice or that shit but NL has comfy all year round weather. Filtering is allowed and encouraged, just don't be a retard and go full speed between the lanes. People in cars tend to be social. If one fucks up while you're filtering, just wait for a sec, they'll apologize with the hand wave thingie 99% of the time. Don't go full snowcat on car people, that gives fellow bikers a bad name.
Road taxes are standard 10 bucks er month for all bikes. I have 7 years without claims so my insurance is realy cheap, like 14 euros for all risk.
Bikes do not have the apk or annual check, hence so many straight piped or decatted bikes.
I spent 1100 on my license but I already had a car license and dirt bike experience.
Cars though? You will fuggin BLEED if you want anything nice. We have a co2 luxury tax, which for example makes the mustang GT cost 120k+. Sub 2L cars aren't too bad. I only import cars though, I don't buy them here. My father in law has a one man company and uses a tax loophole to drive a fuckhueg F150 on LPG. Lpg is 60 cents per kg or so, road tazes are only 50 bucks per 3 months due to the loophole. Lpg and diesel cars cost quite a penny in road taxes, especially the heavier ones
Dylan Cox
Yes registration tax on new cars is based on co2 emissions:
Veeky Forumstist better import a used car from another country within the EU into NL, you'll be able to get lower registration tax (article 10).
Logan Thomas
Whoa, biking is THAT much cheaper? I was discouraged from getting a bike and license because DDing a bike is guaranteed to go wrong someday according to all the Americlaps here, but shit, this seems so worth it, both for money and for speed. Not to mention how attractive decatting is. Is being a biker here safe enough to DD it?
Benjamin Diaz
>americlaps Lmao m8 To be serious though, people here are more social in traffic, atleast where I live (Groningen). I always filter when I attend college, in 2 years so far I've only ever encountered some boomers, audi q5 cucks and trophy wives who try to block the path. Once I had a cop filtering behind me on a G800gs who fined that perspn lmao. Bike cops are total bros. Like I said, don't be retarded, don't sperg like snowcat, be kind and wave back, thank car owners for letting you pass if they make extra space. In my opinion audi a6 owners tend to be dadbros and most will make extra room even if you already have enough space. Just filter with 5-15 kph difference but no more.
Protip: watch out for elderly on E-bikes regardless of your vehicle, they are a fucking menace. I hit one once, by default the motor vehicle owner is supposed to be 100% liable but after some court shit I proved I did nothing wrong
Captcha right now fucking kek
Chase Murphy
>Groningen Wait, there are more of us here?
Tyler Long
I've met a total of 7 groninger Veeky Forumstists so far
