Ford is GOAT, we knew this already

Ford is GOAT, we knew this already

Its about time

It seems that none of the press cars or ones being sold are the Competition models which are a good 200lbs less. I'd like to see one of those lapped around a track.

But muh truck engine

imagine how much better it would be with a v8 instead of some ecoboost marketing stunt engine

tragic

Heavier?

More powerful and on par or faster than a 720S also
>reworked mazda engine in a legend
no

it's already faster than a 720s. see op.

>inb4 muh drag racing

720S didn't lap VIR

the EcoBoost V6 makes more power and weighs less

How can it make more power than an engine Ford never even gave the time of day to.

Motortrend thinks otherwise. The FGT is fast but the 720S is far future superscience.

the only reason the ford gt has an ecoboost engine is for marketing purposes

Nah, it's for weight savings and fuel efficiency because they wanted to win LeMans.

Not to mention the street version is way more powerful than the LeMans racer.

>A 500k car just beat a 100k

Viper is still king as usual.

It isn't fuel efficient and the Ford's V8 is better for endurance. The main reason they used a V8 is because current rules cripples more powerful higher displacement engines and favors lower displacement forced induction engines. BOP also forced the Cadillac VR prototypes to switch from 6.2 to 5.5.

>A 500k car just beat a 100k car *without trying

Viper is a great value still though.

>d-doesn't count
FCA cuck delusion

>The main reason they used a V8
V6*

It's curious how a total win turns into a total failure when you ask a fanboi their opinion

It will really never count until they beat 7:01.

So you're saying a different car with different engines performed differently under different circumstances?

Both cars were Daytona prototypes one with Ecoboost the other with a 5.0. there are several other tracks where the 5.0 put down more laps and a further distance. so i'm more saying the same car with a better engine performed better under a 24 hour interval.

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Right, but is the Ford GT a Daytona Prototype? You're comparing apples to oranges. Not to mention the races occurred three years apart with different drivers under different conditions.

>Right, but is the Ford GT a Daytona Prototype?
Does the body around the engine improve performance of the engine? the fact that they are vehicles of the same type in the same class makes the experiment that much more sensible not less.
>Not to mention the races occurred three years apart
they are the same Daytona prototype... and they used the same tires even. what changed in that 3 year period? and while we're talking about different drivers do you realize the guy who just set the VIR time is a racing driver and Chris Wrinkler (who drove the ACR) isn't?

>under different conditions
it was dry for both 24 hour runs.

>Chris Wrinkler (who drove the ACR) isn't
retract that just googled and i think he is.

>Does the body around the engine improve performance of the engine?
Yeah, vehicles with different engines perform differently in different cars.

>the fact that they are vehicles of the same type in the same class
different class

>they are the same Daytona prototype... and they used the same tires even. what changed in that 3 year period?
weather conditions, race conditions, race strategy, what was the same really?

>and while we're talking about different drivers do you realize the guy who just set the VIR time is a racing driver and Chris Wrinkler (who drove the ACR) isn't?
We're comparing record lap times for two different cars, what difference does the driver make?

>it was dry for both 24 hour runs.
what about temperature, humidity, every other racing condition that effects engine performance

>ford narrowly beat an out of production car that costs 1/5th the price in bias marketing test

You gonna have to do better than that if you want some respect around here.

7:01

You realize Dodge(FCA) themselves sent the ACR to over a dozen tracks to set the lap records, right? Unlike the ACR Nurburgring lap which was financed by privateers. Why are you so bootyblasted Ford sent the GT to one track and it took the record?

>vehicles with different engines perform differently
That's the point i'm trying to make, that the V8 performs better, it *is* a different engine and a better one.
>different cars
they were both Daytona prototypes of the exact same chassis.
>different class
Both in the highest prototype class.
>weather conditions, race conditions
Yes, the temperatures were usual of a January season and unless there was some huge hot 100+ degree drought or nearly below freezing chill the temp difference isn't enough to make one car go an extra 20 laps.
>race strategy
Chip Ganassi Racing (the team who won with ecoboost) has more Wins at Daytona than the team who won with the V8 so Ecoboost had the better race strategy team if anything.
>what about temperature
see above probably different but not enough to make a 20 lap difference (i e not enough to sap horsepower from any of the engines)
>what about temperature, humidity
Again, don't see a huge enough difference for their to potentially sap power.

>what difference does the driver make?
I don't know, you initially brought it up with the daytona races?

>I don't know, you initially brought it up with the daytona races?
It makes a difference when comparing how a totally different car than the one we're discussing performed in two different races years a part. It doesn't make a difference when comparing record lap times.

>That's the point i'm trying to make, that the V8 performs better, it *is* a different engine and a better one.
Sure, in a completely different car. The point you are trying to make is that based on two races three years apart using a different car in a different class, the Ford GT should have used a different engine than the one the actual, experienced engineers chose to make the car perform at it's about peak.

>they were both Daytona prototypes of the exact same chassis.
Is the Ford GT in the Daytona prototype class?

>Both in the highest prototype class.
Which is a completely different class

>Yes, the temperatures were usual of a January season and unless there was some huge hot 100+ degree drought or nearly below freezing chill the temp difference isn't enough to make one car go an extra 20 laps.
Race conditions can certainly make a car go further, perhaps 2012 was a particularly clean race day and they didn't have as many caution laps?

>Chip Ganassi Racing (the team who won with ecoboost) has more Wins at Daytona than the team who won with the V8 so Ecoboost had the better race strategy team if anything.
So you're saying they employ a single strategy at every race? Every race requires different strategy to win, and occurs under different conditions.

>see above probably different but not enough to make a 20 lap difference (i e not enough to sap horsepower from any of the engines)
It can still make a difference, especially when accounted for with the other factors that make a race 3 years a part a terrible way to objectively judge engine performance.

FCA cuckolds absolutely fucking buttdestroyed

there is literally no way they will recover from getting BTFO this hard