/fhg/ - For Honor General

Lunatick
Lunatick

femglad edition

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Season 3 Info:
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New players:
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Multiple hero video guides
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Wikis:
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Character values
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Gear modifier values
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Gear appearances
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PVP Stat Tracker:
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Story mode collectibles:
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fhtracker.com/
gameranx.com/features/id/93082/article/for-honor-all-knights-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
gameranx.com/features/id/93191/article/for-honor-all-vikings-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
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youtu.be/QlgbZHmSu8g
clips
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youtube.com/watch?v=SOjJVsOi8YY
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Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

First for Highlander's glasses

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

First for femglad

SniperWish
SniperWish

that fucking crushing counterstrike
WARDEN MAINS ON SUICIDE WATCH

JunkTop
JunkTop

Wait that was a Crushing Counterstrike not a Superior block Light. What the fuck?

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

highlander has crushing counter from all directions
Come the fuck on now.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

gimme fem glad pls

Firespawn
Firespawn

I may hate Tru3 but hearing him encourage his teammate was really sweet

cum2soon
cum2soon

Gib plz

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Didn't look like it did much more damage, if any

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

CRUSHING COUNTER ON ALL GUARDS
Holy shit did warden fuck a devs wife?

farquit
farquit

Glad weapons are named after gods, pretty cool.
imgur.com/a/JmDHE
imgur.com/a/lCRSH
imgur.com/a/DYgxe
imgur.com/a/6oYIR

cum2soon
cum2soon

his opinions for For Honor aren't great but he's a nice guy

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

FUCK OFF WARDEN WILL BEAT HIM!!!!

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Someone give me a tier list
I want to play the weakest character in the game

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Minerva will be good for a waifuglad.

likme
likme

It's over

Emberburn
Emberburn

its a 15 damage counter
its the exact same as Warlord and Valkyrie superior block
it just has a fire effect

Emberfire
Emberfire

Kensei

StonedTime
StonedTime

Kensei or conqueror.

Supergrass
Supergrass

All we know is
Highlander >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warden

SniperGod
SniperGod

top heavy soft fient into side heavy JUST to fuck warden over
The devs want warden blood.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Over Juno? I'll have to see in game

happy_sad
happy_sad

highlanders grab is literally just a better, faster long arm that gives you an execute if the follow up heavy kills them.
Ok

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Told my friend not to buy the game
He bought the fucking game

You absolute retard.

viagrandad
viagrandad

Lawbringer is still the worst in the game
m-muh shove off block
Just roll backwards.

People that say kensei are literally only saying that because they want him to get buffed. They seem to not utilize his feints and range.

whereismyname
whereismyname

Warden or Conq.

Kensei is a mile better than Warden.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Wardens shit now but not as bad as ken.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

the non competitive tournament is more hype than the actual competitive one

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Always is

whereismyname
whereismyname

its cute

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Kensei has better defense play than warden though.

Evilember
Evilember

All this warden hate.
Fuck you guys

Flameblow
Flameblow

How?

idontknow
idontknow

Conq has the single best turtling ability in the game, he has literally no reason to ever need to try and parry, and characters with no side attack literally can't punish his shield bash.

Techpill
Techpill

want to go to dinner and get some sushi and a drink or two
but dont want to stop watching highlander/glad gameplay and banter

Guess I'll have to order takeout from somewhere

Skullbone
Skullbone

kensei has more options
warden has an unsafe bash
kensei feint game better than warden and can even confused people at high level gameplay
kensei better defense and viable offense
warden can only use top light or zone
literally a worse orochi

h

Flameblow
Flameblow

Law is the best "actual" knight in the game, as in better than conq and warden.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

They're coming

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Superior Block on Dodge. Just Dash Forward and grab them. Near walls you get 45 Damage. Warden can only get CC from Top. Aside from that what other defensive move Warden has?
Also Kensei has longer range so he can throw few heavies out without getting GB unlike Warden. A warden literally only has to use his basic moveset, SB is 100% readable now.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Yeah, well reddit told me warden is OP. What now?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

I kek'd

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

STOP
WARDEN IS STILL USABLE

5mileys
5mileys

Literally how?
defensively
Conq guarantees a light off a superior block and all block, lawbringer doesn't guarantee anything besides a shove which then you can LITERALLY roll backwards away from. The same exact logic behind getting out of warden's "vortex" applies here
offensively
Warden has faster attacks, moves faster, crushing counterstrike, 30 damage off side light confirm, fast top light

I'm honestly curious as to how he ISN'T the worst character in the game.

hairygrape
hairygrape

Warden has faster attack
Same speed as law
Hmm.

Emberburn
Emberburn

crushing counter can be parried
warden only has two fast attacks, one is top light which is telegraphed as hell
the other is a zone attack which is the only zone attack in the game that is unsafe on block, even though pk, orochi, nobushi, and warlord have better zones
everybody and their mother keeps their guard left agaist a warden

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

is this tournament a good example the devs should ignore competitive shitters?

viagrandad
viagrandad

Yes.

Skullbone
Skullbone

youtu.be/QlgbZHmSu8g

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

didnt this guy give up on for honor

Bidwell
Bidwell

This faggot shouldn't be making guides about anything, he mains PK and only has her at Rep 4 or something last time I checked. It's like a Little League player telling you how to play baseball.

Methshot
Methshot

The fact that the streamers are infinitely more entertaining to watch should be indicative enough.

Those try hard niggers make the game look garbage.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Streamers make something entertaining

WHAAAAAAAA? NO.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Yeah this is actually fun to watch

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Can you judge the quality of a game by players who play it badly?

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

made a video saying for honor will never make a comeback and its trash

ubusoft still gives him shit

Spamalot
Spamalot

Nice fursona, you fucking untermensch.

takes2long
takes2long

At least they're fucking playing it. Raiders running back and forth is laughable.

hairygrape
hairygrape

t. pedantic cunt

I mean the fact that they're actually playing the game properly rather than abusing unlock shit and fishing for stampede charges.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

actually throwing out attacks
being aggressive
doing cheap tactics like ganking or trying to insta kill from ledges

fuck competitive for honor

Spamalot
Spamalot

the only reason people don't cry for lawbringer buffs is because no one plays him because they already know he's shit so they don't care to cry about how underpowered he is because they don't even play them so they don't care.
if more people actually played him there would be a much larger more vocal group of people saying to buff him

warden confirms much more damage off his attacks that are the same speed as law

parry cc
only assassins with incredible reflexes
two
law has one that is only a top. warden has a top AND a side and his zone does 20 damage
only zone in the game that is unsafe on block
it has the most range to speed
everyone and their mother keeps guard left against warden
then why not use your top light that you say is so fast?

I can seriously refute any possible claim that anyone can give to law being good.
Here's a basic list
Con:
Slow as fuck on every move except his one top light bonk
No hyper armor period on his heavy attacks that are of the slowest in the game
Every combo requires a heavy attack during it at least once
His shove guarantees a GB when missed if timed quickly (as does every other movement ability)
Long arm guarantees a GB when missed with a very large window to GB
He can only use his unique parries on a light parry, otherwise his parries are no different than anyone else (Just a side heavy or top heavy against wall)
Since they removed throw distance from the game he doesn't get to benefit from positioning as much

Pros
Has high HP
Can deal 45 damage off a light parry
Can stun off a top heavy
Can deal safe but minor damage to any character off a parry regardless of distance by using the light attack stun after parry

There's much more but I realized while typing that you literally will not change your mind no matter what I say for whatever reason. Probably don't play lawbringer so I'm typing this out to someone who has no idea what I'm saying and how bad it really is

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

That's only because the characters are too new for people to have found the optimal cheese strats.

Give it a week after patch day.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Both of the new heroes look fun to play

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

warden's lights are literally all the same speed as law's. 500ms top, 600ms sides

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Warden gets 30 damage off sides, and can shoulder bash from any light

Lawbringer gets nothing from a light besides trying to use another super slow heavy

MPmaster
MPmaster

But you said that warden had faster attacks

Emberfire
Emberfire

24

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

No he doesn't.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Warden
30 damage off sides

I think he included the zone as a fast side light.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

only assassins with incredible reflexes
can still be parried
law has one that is only a top. warden has a top AND a side and his zone does 20 damage
law has better feint potential/mixups. warden's side is not viable, and if you say it is then i'll tell you that lawbringer's zone is viable :^)
it has the most range to speed
that's warlord friend
then why not use your top light that you say is so fast?
you can parry it on reaction. have you not seen that? you can keep your guard left, and when they throw a top light you can instantly parry it. i've done it, it's been done to me. it's not unheard of.

Bidwell
Bidwell

Warden can shoulder bash from a light but he doesn't "get" it, you can dodge it or interrupt it or tech the GB. He "gets" as much from a light as LB does, the ability to transition into another move that the opponent can react to.

Illusionz
Illusionz

Gladiator looks really fun

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Yeah. Honestly can't wait to main, and if they nerf him. I'll stick by it, same with shinobi

Supergrass
Supergrass

Glad looks nutty, but I feel like he's not that hard to figure out how to go against. All his unblockables are telegraphed as fuck.

Highlander looks not great, but these guys are also barely using the offensive stance so they're only using half the character.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

What's next after this brawl? More season 3 content?, Xbox 1 match happened already? Or is it the Dom game?

FastChef
FastChef

Yeah me too.

Can't be worse than Cucksei

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Any idea on the delay on the highlander exiting offence stance?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

In absolute general yes he does as his lights confirm into a second light.

Sorry, 24. Still higher than lawbringer's 15 and combos into shoulder bash.

80% of the roster can't
the only people that can are the people that have no reason to top attack you so you would never get it off anyways
side not viable
500ms 24 damage into shoulder bash not viable
lawbringer's zone viable
900 ms for 20 damage
Warlord's zone does not have nearly as much reach as warden's
parry on reaction
And somehow you can't parry lawbringer's only fast move in the game by constantly blocking top because every other direction is slow?

Lawbringer can shove off a heavy, but he doesn't "get" it, you can dodge it or dodge literally whatever he throws out after it hits you if it does. He "gets" more from LB because he can cancel it at will and transition into another move that the opponent can react to.

Honestly I can go all day on this.

Inmate
Inmate

I fucking love the laserbeam sound on Highlander's forward dash attack cancels.

eGremlin
eGremlin

Who won the PC tourney, just got here and what was the winning character?

Inmate
Inmate

play 2v2
respect 1v1
what did they mean by this?

Skullbone
Skullbone

They should add fire to Warlord and Valk for clarity sake.
And maybe like, blue fire to Warden or something.

RavySnake
RavySnake

Brawl is stupid and always has been.

hairygrape
hairygrape

Want to lure in new players
With this absoltue cancer tournament
All they should have shown were the fun tournaments with the new heroes. That massive pile of cheese, buggy unlock tech and turtling cost them players, if anything.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

bahjeera talkin shit about true caught on stream

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

they added a 1v1 tournament mode that will be just as bad instead of a cool castle siege mode packed with action

I don't know why they push this esports competitive shit. It's the game at it's worse.

whereismyname
whereismyname

I would like that.

Supergrass
Supergrass

Gladiator has cool boxing stuff
Centurion gets gay grape eating pose
Reading this thread has only made me realize just how ruined Warden is and Highlander will meme all over him
The stream is hype but once it's over I'm gonna be hit with a wave of depression baka desu senpai.

Nojokur
Nojokur

highlander has underpants and no schlong dangling under kilt
dropped

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

This. I have never seen a game that's so boring, cancerous and utterly shit at competitive level. I'd be embarassed if I had to present For Honor to a friend and he would watch this.

happy_sad
happy_sad

Still downloading
Played a bunch of Warden and a little of Kensei in both betas
Also want to play Lawbringer now
Reading this thread and everybody hates these guys
D-darn

FastChef
FastChef

Warden was still decent not to long ago, but he's on his death bed now sadly. A new character is about to replace him.

RavySnake
RavySnake

seems like the best mode in the game when people play it properly

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

It's not that people hate them. It's just that most of us aren't delusional. Those characters are trash and we're gonna let you know that so you know what to expect.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

They hate it because they cant take it

DeathDog
DeathDog

Every other duel is against a warden
All of them spam GB from neutral
Why does this happen?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Kensei is actually good if you learn to feint. He's got great range and great damage with his unblockable attack that can be feinted and turned sideways

Warden's just "bad" because people liked his shoulder bash to be the end all of all fights and then when people learned how to dodge it they are saying he's bad. They rely so entirely on their shoulder bash that when it doesn't work they cry and cry and cry

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

highlanders top heavy into side heavy soft fient

Jesus this looks horrible to play against.

RumChicken
RumChicken

It's not hate anon. They are stating those characters really suck ass against a non-brain dead chum. Even at a non-competitive situation, you gotta work for the win(not in a good way either)

Spamalot
Spamalot

are both high lander and kensei too slow

askme
askme

They rely so entirely on their shoulder bash that when it doesn't work they cry and cry and cry
Which doesn't even matter until you get to the very top end in duel mode.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Sorry, forgot to mention that highlander basically negates everything good about warden once highlander comes out so you might as well play kensei

stupid players

Skullbone
Skullbone

people should understand that basic skills are more important than special moves here

Firespawn
Firespawn

Law getting hate

Upholding The Law is an ungrateful task that must be done.

Also by looks alone is the best knight

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Everything Gladiator is doing
The one mixup Highlander has outside of memestance is what you think looks horrible to fight

niqqa

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Free weekenders? Can't see why else you would take warden into duels.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Gladiator shows off their feet
has move where they stab peoples feet

foot fetish hero confirmed

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

No these people are always really high rep

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

He is the most aesthetic, but damn does he suck ass fighting against anyone but retards that can't cgb/dodge/block in 1 direction

Booteefool
Booteefool

I don't care about glad, I want that savages fucking hide.

t. Warden

farquit
farquit

stupid players, then

cum2soon
cum2soon

liking all these new characters getting full movelists with interesting gimmicks and fluid movement
my main barely has half a page of moves or special properties if not obsolete to the new guys
is this what its like to moba?

ain't a general around here that doesn't hate the game they talk about

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

who won the tourny? was it a raider?

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Fundamentals aren't going to win you any matches unless you're playing against a braindead. Especially if your character has a nearly non-existent feint game like Wardem.
Somebody should edit that "Accepting your death." picture from Conqueror to Warden. Conqueror has accepted his fate, now his brother Warden is next.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Eh, true that.

Although for some reason people always forgets how fast is his top light.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

this desu
warden's moveset fits on a damn napkin

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

I think a raider vs raider was the last one.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

highlanders crushing counter does the same damage as wardens
from all directions
What the fuck ubi, that was the one thing he had.

Skullbone
Skullbone

We don't know, they are having a bunch of the matches run in the background at the same time until they get to the semi finals (I think that's what they said) because they had so many matches to run through

nah the last one that we saw was a warlord vs pk and god damn fuck that pk retarded guard direction switch spamming asshole. he deserved to lose

idontknow
idontknow

but it does less damage so warden is still unique :^)

iluvmen
iluvmen

How else are they supposed to make money with the game?

likme
likme

Did nearly 2 bars.

happy_sad
happy_sad

'twas sarcasm, warden is a fucking joke lmao

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Predict who's gonna win this seasons tourney

MPmaster
MPmaster

Fuck you Morigan.

w8t4u
w8t4u

chuck

Evilember
Evilember

Fuck me, Morrigan.

DeathDog
DeathDog

Are they going to do a Dominion game with the new heroes too?

w8t4u
w8t4u

Yeah

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Yes. Finish up brawl, reach PC finals(matches in background, speed things up) then Xbox champion match(German vs Mexican). Then Dom to end the night.

w8t4u
w8t4u

Nice, thanks.

SniperGod
SniperGod

There was apparently an event order
I just got 2000 steel without even knowing it was going on

Snarelure
Snarelure

Yup. It was for playing matches of any kind.

Pretty much free steel to get us prepped for the new season.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

casters actually like ledgeing
like any non-faggot player
At least reddit can start crying ha ha

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

surprised they haven't done something like seige's intro version where it's super cheap to buy the game but it costs more steel to unlock characters.

Snarelure
Snarelure

Because that shit is a scam in Siege and only retards buy it.

Flameblow
Flameblow

that's why im surprised they haven't done it yet

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

unlike siege you can actually play all characters for free "unlock" only unlocks getting armor/gear for them and unlocking customization.

Inmate
Inmate

Watching Glad, it's like shinobi all over again. Just love the way he moves, and the default armor looks great. Honestly wished the season pass was like half off to go with this free weekend. My hype for him is big

Soft_member
Soft_member

Just block nigga damn

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

yeah, they fucked up not doing 50% off with the pass too. I would have bought it

StonedTime
StonedTime

I really want the Walrus

has anyone seen people use it? I know itll look different than the preview because Raiders are always hunched over and looking down

Snarelure
Snarelure

yeah one of my buddies that plays raider has it. a lot of people say they wish they had it but I don't see the appeal

SniperGod
SniperGod

centurion punches me in the face, instant loss

likme
likme

"it's a TEAM game not a bunch of 1v1s"
HONORFAGS BTFO

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

it literally looks like an asshole is on raider's head

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

imgur.com/a/JmDHE
highlander gets bigass muttonchops
I'm more ok with no mask option now

Nojokur
Nojokur

Fitting.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Which punch anon? Charged or not fully?(not hating or shitting just curious if your new)

askme
askme

Did we ever get how the Mystic outfits look on the new fighters?

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

not charged, i get hit by unblockables all the time tho, but i find the centurion to be extra annoying

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Why are people complaining about Highlander not having a mask, anyway?

TechHater
TechHater

I like that all of the warriors are basically faceless, highlander breaks that pattern and from the gameplay we've seen so far his face doesn't move nearly enough to make it appealing ingame

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Usually the not charged one is dodgeable now. Was really bad at his release, my tip is too review the encounter in your head. Timing yourself basically, I'll try to find a video. But after the nerf it became less tracked on uncharged.

Lunatick
Lunatick

because he has no facial animations

RavySnake
RavySnake

every hero up to this point has had their face obscured so far
even Berserker has some retarded domino mask to fit the game's overall aesthetic theme

Highlander looks like he's from a different game.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Looks like I'm going to start Season 3 with 50k Steel.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

who cares

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

63k negro. Step it up.
:)

viagrandad
viagrandad

lmao
mexican chuuni

5mileys
5mileys

Xb1 finals. About time, and soon the Dom game. Wonder what our console players will use.

eGremlin
eGremlin

That pose
Do they force him to make a pose or something? I wouldn't know what I would do.

Post your tournament poses.

Methnerd
Methnerd

This Orochi is better than the ps4 one.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

also another fucking roach and warlord
Fuck me, they could have used Raider or shug.....
Shugs cool on console.

Inmate
Inmate

Atleast these bone players aren't as shit as the PS4 ones. Decent games.

RavySnake
RavySnake

SO after all of this we can safely assume PS4 has the most interesting play? PC is raider and turtle central, while Xbox so far looks like retards.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

good bait
Don't start shit lol

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

console is active and PC is turtle
this entire tournament begs to differ

turtle central
I think you mean PS4 or did you not watch the tournament?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

anyone have a link to the leaked tourney rewards?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

I honestly think they pulled two randoms dudes off of the street for the PS4 finials. The didn't even look like they knew how to play.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Actually parrying shit

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

tourney rewards
what?

Evilember
Evilember

This has to be bait. The ps4 games were fucking dreadful, I think my friend that started on the free weekend could take a few games from them with PK light spam.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

my console players actually parried
Neat I guess, kinda surprised PS4 didn't abuse it.

Bidwell
Bidwell

The PS4 players didn't even know how to fient.

whereismyname
whereismyname

have they done the PC finals?

askme
askme

Nigga deflected.
This roach may be another one but at least he took a risk lol

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

it's right after the xbone finals

MPmaster
MPmaster

Pretty good matches from the xbone finals so far. Surprising.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

they've been the best tournament matches so far

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Orochi can actually do shit on console

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

WOW, Ark is trash.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Did you watch the shugo killing the super turtle wahlard?
Or the raiders memeing it up with charges?
or clutch and his sunglasses?
If you don't mean the most entertaining then sure, they have the best "fight" but the certainly aren't the most entertaining.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Xbox gets ok matches of feints, and warlord being meh.
PS4 is literally people off the fucking street not doing anything.
PC is straight Shug charge(Raider) 2, electric boogaloo. Pretty much kino in terms of cheesiness.
Gotta say this tourney is really ok and odd ha ha(pretty bad at attracting new kids, but was fucking funny)

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

PC has literally been a fucking meme the entire time and god I love it

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Law has the best mindgame meta though.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Play Orochi in duel
Alternate between top lights and zones and feints
Win 90% of duels, even against high level players

I'll miss the flicker to some degree. Also, why the fuck do Duel Autists take their shitty mode so seriously?

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

have season 3 tourny
not showing off the new gear and just have vanilla gear with the same color
missed opportunity

likme
likme

there's not going to be a 1v1 tourney where only Highlander and Gladiator are allowed

Wtf I want to see more them in 1v1s, not 2v2s

Methnerd
Methnerd

best mindgame meta
he just stands there waiting for you to attack him so he can shove

Evilember
Evilember

Xbone had the best fights
PC had the best memers
PS4 was a state

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

I missed the raider cheese meme, but got to watch all of the brawl banter. It was fucking hilarious. Watching the 2v2s devolve from two 1v1s into a shitfest (as it should be).

massdebater
massdebater

2v2s are basically just 2 1v1s

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

the chunni became hokage

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

I know I love it too. My consoles(Xbox) match may have been another roach and warlord. But PC, goddamn these raider charge matches are the most entertaining shit I've seen this weekend.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Literally an oroachie avtually lanfing side lights. Unlocking shugo was the best.

Emberburn
Emberburn

honestly I would HIGHLY recommend watching the PC tournament from the beginning after the entire stream is saved to twitch. It was the best thing I've seen in for honor
especially the shugo vs wahlard fight. It's even better if you can see the chat screaming constantly about "cheaters! exploits! he should be banned!"

hairygrape
hairygrape

Report honorfags for griefing
You poor ignorant fool.

SniperWish
SniperWish

Can't argue that

They really need to change where you spawn in brawl, should start side by side facing off against the other two.

MPmaster
MPmaster

the raider vs raider shitfest was levels of kino that shouldn't even be possible.

viagrandad
viagrandad

This is why the forest is the best brawl map

FastChef
FastChef

Why do they act like orochi side lights were never seen before? I use them kinda often on PC but it's more of a preemptive thing where a heavy would be too slow and a top light would be too fast

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Only fights that represent what the game should be about near the very end
Weird. Anyway get really lads, more meme fights.

Snarelure
Snarelure

it was confirmed to 10k viewers live that brawls is a TEAM GAME not a bunch of 1v1s
honorfags btfo

I don't know what kino is but yes

hairygrape
hairygrape

Say hello to your new champion on PC.
Say something nice to this fellow here :)

Emberburn
Emberburn

using shove
not just poking people in the face irregularly until they run out of hp

StonedTime
StonedTime

There were parries, deflects, both attacking ect. I'd say they were the best fights in terms of how you "should" play. But I want more raider vs raider shit fests, I was laughing my ass off.

hairygrape
hairygrape

clutchmaster is in the final
YA BOI GOING TO MAKE IT

SniperWish
SniperWish

Did the cent player make it to the finials?

hairygrape
hairygrape

oh no raider is not liked 0.0

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Ali Ali
Sort your names out mudshits.

takes2long
takes2long

What is Highlander saying when he goes into offensive stance and when he throws an unblockable?

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

CUM INMA CRACK

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Perfect

Emberburn
Emberburn

no side step jab and stab
0/10

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

thanks anon

Supergrass
Supergrass

got an achievement watching a stream
Xbox you really are odd

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

That's how I actually play though. Then a Rep10 comes in and deletes me.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Kek, very true though.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

group B's first matchup we see is much more interesting than anything in group A we saw

eGremlin
eGremlin

Shugo might be a tourney final.
I'd dig it

massdebater
massdebater

this isn't even a good shug. there is a way better shugo that played earlier

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Yeah good games so far.

Snarelure
Snarelure

That PK player is one cocky little shit

FastChef
FastChef

Don't lie anon, we all know you wanna see the raider charge fest.
:)

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

much more interesting than anything in group A we saw

more interesting than a fucking Shugoki trash-canning an ultra-turtle wahlard

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Never thought I'd see a shug trash can a warlord in this game build version. Was really a fun match.

askme
askme

After seeing all this I'm actually more excited for Gladiator

He just looks like so much more fun to play, as well as Highlander looking like mid tier-ish.

Roman allure got me eventually. I've got to play this Aquaman Conor McGregor fuck.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

This fucking PK
Just move to the next match already

5mileys
5mileys

I hate sypher because he's one of those orochi's that only fight in ganks and spam top lights

but I hate PK players that spam guard direction change more. fuck kiri

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Why do so many people not understand why you would spam guard break as shug?

likme
likme

YOU BLEW IT

Methshot
Methshot

SYPHERPK SHREKT LIKE A BITCH

Fucking Shugo is the second most boring character to watch. GBs for fucking days.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Hope Kiri gets dumpstered. Jeez that was annoying to watch.

Soft_member
Soft_member

Looks like swifter got dusted

King_Martha
King_Martha

I played against a Shug who exclusively guard broke, then retreated if you somehow managed to break his armour, only to start guard breaking again. It was awful.

WebTool
WebTool

Another RAIDER!? Please, I need my good laughs

happy_sad
happy_sad

this is what your average bushi fag looks like
THE STATE

Snarelure
Snarelure

Playing against a team of newbies in Dom
Pick Conq since I never play him
Take Punch Through
Just spam attacks at them until they realise if they don't parry or dodge they will die
Force new players to get good while also not being relentlessly difficult

This is... nice.

Emberburn
Emberburn

OF

Booteefool
Booteefool

What is wrong with their fucking controllers, they have issues one match in three.

farquit
farquit

playing my high rep warden
get into a game full of rep 0s
just boost a point while watching shit go down on B
Was pretty amusing.

Emberburn
Emberburn

being the Taurus demon/ ludex Gundyr to new players
Good man

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

WEEBS

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

LB will never play like champion gundyr with crazy kicks and shit
it hurts

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

bushi fag looks weird
even unlocks
Why man. She deserves better

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

This Weeb battle is fun

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

LB will never be viable in anything but noob smashing
it hurts

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

NIGASHI MA SEN

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Unlock fags please kys

Evilember
Evilember

Hope this roach dumpsters his ass

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

wanting a roach to win
kys

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

wanting a """tech""" abusing faggot to win

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

wanting unlock garbage

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Would rather have a nobushi using unlocks than an orochi

But I will admit this orochi is a lot better than the other ones that have been playing

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

I'll take an Orochi over this fucking unlock "tech" memery, or raider charge spam, or the cancer that is warlord/pk

JunkTop
JunkTop

Now your just letting your hate get the better of your senses lol. Roachs are a chore, but at least I can parry their top lights, unlike "tech" abusing bush is who you have to block.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

but you fail to realize that if he wins, they will finally fucking fix the unlock shit

likme
likme

Dissapointing

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

dude this has been a fucking full day adventure

i haven't shitpost this much in ages

Playboyize
Playboyize

No wardens in the tournament
Poor warden, atleast the cent player is still in.

Lunatick
Lunatick

Already in the patch notes. This is this fags last time to use it, which makes it silly and annoying.

cum2soon
cum2soon

he's been dominating, nerf cent now.

Snarelure
Snarelure

no lawbringers in the tournament
poor lawbringer

THANK FUCK

Booteefool
Booteefool

I feel like the removal of time snap made Cent's kick harder to dodge. I used to never get hit by it.

JunkTop
JunkTop

JuST dODgE is hilarious to spam in the raider match chat
Who's this warden? All I know is this cool fellow highlander has a big sword! And can counter in all directions just by swinging in those directions!!

massdebater
massdebater

yes haha funny spongebob reddit mEmE :D

DeathDog
DeathDog

How do I level up quick? I want to get cool shit for my Kensei

farquit
farquit

Dominion and doing your daily orders.

likme
likme

How much more is there? I feel like I've been watching all day.

RumChicken
RumChicken

Play Dominion. Rubberband your controller and idle against bots in Dominion when you need a break

whereismyname
whereismyname

play dominion, stand on the objective, get kills while standing on the objective, complete orders

eGremlin
eGremlin

Theres still the end of the 1v1 tournament, then theres dominion, get hype

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Couple more matches and a Dom game.
(And yes you have been watching all day)

Spamalot
Spamalot

snorelord again
time to turn off

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

achievement pops up on bone
watch 8 hours of twitch in one sitting
First of all wew lad, second of all my does the shit posting make time fly.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

I got the ten hours one called "we esports now" earlier in the first raider shit fest.

Fucked me up lad

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Centurions charged heavy animation has a short stabbing motion before pulling back and finishing the attack
Always fall for it because realistic story taught me bad habits
Every time feels like a kick in the gut

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

parry raider's heavies as soon as the red appears
same with warden
same with cent
or shugoki's charge

Kill me, I do it way too often and it makes me want to die

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

say what you want about sypher, dude can parry

FastChef
FastChef

I can parry Warden and Raider top heavy fine, it's Zerk top heavy that invariably fucks my shit up.

Fucken

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Yeah, it's costing him though, he's eating a lot of damage from messing them up as well.

Emberburn
Emberburn

some fag gets butthurt over swastika emblem
"reported, enjoy your ban"
And I wasn't even trying to make anyone mad today

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Parrying isn't that impressive. I have run into Rep 5 players who can parry literally every single light I throw at them. Shit, I have run into Rep 1 Zerkers who can deflect 500ms lights like it's nothing.

TechHater
TechHater

Is your swastika emblem ironic or unironic?

Booteefool
Booteefool

Unironic of course

w8t4u
w8t4u

match against a parry lord
get a free win with basic fients
There's a good reason the turtle meta involves very little parrying.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Going for heavy parries
Ever

Nojokur
Nojokur

you deserve it then you autistic edgelord

RumChicken
RumChicken

No time to figure out if it's a light or heavy on console. You just have to go for it.

eGremlin
eGremlin

not being unironically natsoc
anon what are you even doing

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

t. Schlomo

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Nazis were a mistake, if they didn't throw a bitch fit England and France would have worked all of the Africans to death by now.

SniperGod
SniperGod

I suppose a swastika is pretty "edgy" geometrically speaking, but I don't understand why you would get so mad about it.

RumChicken
RumChicken

Is this what your emblem looks like?

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

I had someone say they reported me for my Saint George's cross before. Trigger me timbers.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

lmfao that match

Bidwell
Bidwell

ROBBED

SniperGod
SniperGod

wow
wow
wow

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

yes

Emberburn
Emberburn

Someone reported me for the makeshift Ulster banner emblem I had.

RavySnake
RavySnake

Good taste. Also fucking wew that last round.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

That's actually well made

Soft_member
Soft_member

Unironically supporting socialism

FastChef
FastChef

Wait I missed it, did the orochi or the warlord win?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Whoa anon you don't think you can fight him? Do you?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

wew

TechHater
TechHater

clips
twitch tv/MoldyCrowdedAlpacaPMSTwin

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Warlord won because Orochi tripped and fell on a 2-inch tall rock that exposes how terrible some of the environmental modelling and collision detection is in this game

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

They didn't want to fight England or France. They would rather have been allies. Solidarité Française, and the BUF were unfortunately subverted because (((they))) couldn't allow that to happen.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

He really should have accounted for that.

askme
askme

Fucking WOW

w8t4u
w8t4u

Every single Raider just spams the charge in every single mode now
Most of them don't even attack otherwise, just use the charge, retreat for backup or distance, then repeat

When is this being nerfed or removed? They all act so superior about it, as if they're not just exploiting what mounts to a 300ms guarantee of 45 damage.

happy_sad
happy_sad

Only patch note for season 3 is fixing a Raider bot to do Zone into tap.
:)

askme
askme

kiri AND zac_g are out
YES

Evilember
Evilember

a fucking polack is in the top spot

How did he find the time off of plumbing to practice?

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

When is the dominion?

Flameblow
Flameblow

Nobui unlock zone uses typical plunger technique.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

is now a good time to return to the game?
when do the new heroes come out?

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

after the finals as a cool down

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Tuesday

massdebater
massdebater

fucking never
this 1v1 shit has been going on forfuckingever

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

yes
tuesday if you have season pass, a week from tuesday otherwise

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

New season officially begins Tuesday. New heroes are released for season pass owners on that day, non-season pass owners get them Aug22

girlDog
girlDog

He was drawn to Nobushi because her spinning zone reminds him of the water spiralling down the drain

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

pretty good yeah. it's starting to look promising
15th for season pass owners, a week later for everyone else

Emberfire
Emberfire

neat, i do have the good goy edition so i guess i'll install it now and get some refreshing practice in until then

StonedTime
StonedTime

Centurion is pay2win

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

New meta turtling spot???

DeathDog
DeathDog

Balance is still a shit show, but dedicated servers have been confirmed to be coming down the line so the devs are clearly in for the long haul.

Evilember
Evilember

I just want to see more Highlander gameplay so I can know how shit it's going to be to main him.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

But he is fre- nevermind

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Well he's working as intended
:) maybe gladiator and highlander will be to your liking sweetie

Illusionz
Illusionz

Yea no shit
For honor is based on the rainbow six siege model
Which is great

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

but dedicated servers have been confirmed
holy shit, no way?

that's reason enough to have the game installed.

things are looking promising.

Balance is still a shit show

any multiplayer game has shit balance, i'm used to that and have accepted it

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

have they clarified whether they'll keep p2p for 1v1/2v2? dedicated servers would be a step backward for those modes

Methshot
Methshot

youtu.be/YhpooHdjWlE

SniperWish
SniperWish

Yeah its just dedicated servers for 4v4

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

They haven't commented, just that they are being worked on. I'm guessing we will get them during season 4, and at the same time they will announce the year 2 season pass and give the ETA for season 5.

w8t4u
w8t4u

Almost gets killed by a Cent bot
top kek

Inmate
Inmate

Season 3 only available on PC, Xbox One, and PC

PSKEKS BTFO

WebTool
WebTool

The maximum level is increased to 40 Season 3, right?

girlDog
girlDog

We le did it Reddit.

Yes, enjoy your ugly engravings.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Yes. No word on your new rewards on 31 and above.

Lunatick
Lunatick

I think I can take him one two three.

Bidwell
Bidwell

After the PS4 tournament I'd say fair is fair, what in the actual fuck was that shit?

hairygrape
hairygrape

It's fucking 5AM get to the dominion game already you fucks

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

I looked away: did they just do a 5 minute countdown into another 5 minute countdown?

TreeEater
TreeEater

They really should have held qualifiers yesterday or something and just held the top 8 tournament on stream. This has gone on far too long.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Detected the low-IQ Cuckturion player

Supergrass
Supergrass

How fucking long is this tournament holy shit

King_Martha
King_Martha

He has an arrow feat like the Samurai one. Wonder what his second feat is.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

players are out of sync, reinstancing
players are out of sync, reinstancing
players are out of sync, reinstancing
players are out of sync, reinstancing
players are out of sync, reinstancing
an error has occurred, you will be returned to the main menu
Is it just my nigger internet or is this game still fucked connection-wise? Fuck this I'll come back when the dedicated servers arrive.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

missing my fucking shitpost hard
especially with the sweetie comment
Goddamn man. I thought everyone knew using sweetie in anything automatically regards it to a shitpost.

FastChef
FastChef

Season 3 face

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

have a great fight
play again because I want more
connection drops
super imbalanced matchmaking
cheese spammers

it's like maybe 1/10 games that are actually enjoyable

fuck this garbage

Nojokur
Nojokur

Is it just my nigger internet or is this game still fucked connection-wise?
the latter. netcode is still garbage

Playboyize
Playboyize

ROBBED

DeathDog
DeathDog

4am
I don't know if I'll make it to dominion lads.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

wow, muh esports quality

MPmaster
MPmaster

What effect is that on his executions?

girlDog
girlDog

1 0 , 0 0 0
0
,
0
0
0

cum2soon
cum2soon

Smoke I think

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

imgur.com/a/lCRSH

imgur.com/a/6oYIR

imgur.com/a/JmDHE

imgur.com/a/DYgxe

Bunch of gear courtesy of ya boi YungMaestro.

He says it's not all of the gear but a load of it anyway.

whereismyname
whereismyname

Getting close to fucking midnight here(east coast). Just get to the Dom game , fuck me

Emberfire
Emberfire

didnt Yungmaestro say he dropped this game too

holy fuck these faggots cant stick with their words

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Did you say you dropped the game too?
Don't lie to me anon, we've all done it

5mileys
5mileys

""""""High level"""""" play is the most excruciatingly boring shit to watch
here's a game all about playing as awesome badass warriors. Now watch as they circle around each other feinting attacks but never actually attacking because no one wants to get parried
Remove parries from the game entirely

Emberfire
Emberfire

So did I at one point tbf

This game is an abusive relationship.

MPmaster
MPmaster

How do you get smoke? I thought it got dropped for sunbeam or whatever the fuck.

It looks like a not garbage effect.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

ok from that angle that kinda is a mini-ledge

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

I mean yeah I took breaks but alot of the people who are posting these new hero videos have gone on rants saying how for honor is never making a comeback and its doomed

Emberfire
Emberfire

Already posted doublenigger.

RumChicken
RumChicken

Good god that man sounds like a massive fucking tool

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

there has been only 1 (ONE) match where there was actually any parries
"wahh no one wants to get parried!"
nigger you literally haven't been watching at all have you?

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Holy shit there's still more 1v1 stuff? Good god it's unending.

SniperGod
SniperGod

Top 8. We're almost done.

massdebater
massdebater

t. FH dev

TechHater
TechHater

Fuck this man it's almost 6am, I'm out

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Nice, cent guy made it.

SniperWish
SniperWish

OP cent killing people

King_Martha
King_Martha

how come sypher sucks

Flameblow
Flameblow

Hes white.

DeathDog
DeathDog

cent
op
nice meme. sypher just sucks ass. he literally is only here because of a rock.
A FUCKING
ROCK

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Is the 'Cent has no 1v1 viability' meme dead yet?

t. 1v1 Cent main

TreeEater
TreeEater

Ali Ali
white

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

More like OP cent making this fun to watch. Fuck man Dom needs to come already

Techpill
Techpill

dan is just really fucking good

MPmaster
MPmaster

almost infinite'ed

Spamalot
Spamalot

also true
but what I said about sypher is also true. he's a shitty orochi player that only fights in a 2v1

takes2long
takes2long

Taking a stab at the Highlander lines

The first thing might be "dún mo glas" which is a flowery way of saying "locking down", and the second one sounds kind of like "creachán!" which is a very archaic word for "weakling!". It could also be "riachadh!" which would basically mean "cutting!". I have no idea if this is right or if he's even speaking Irish/Scottish, he could be speaking Icelandic like the rest of the Vikings and the words might just sound similar.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Okay got 2 of my mains to rep 7 and have plenty of steel and crates to get new gear

Now I must wait

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

the guard break wars intensify

girlDog
girlDog

that infinite

I'm dying

likme
likme

Its literally the only safe move
Parry changes now.

Skullbone
Skullbone

sypher
roach player

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

have 2 at Rep 8
shino to rep 9
just got shug to rep 7 Today
Fuck it feels good knowing I'm getting teals

idontknow
idontknow

shugoki seems so slow

why doesn't he parry those light hits that the cent is throwing? or you can't?

haven't played since release, sorry if im lacking in knowledge

WebTool
WebTool

Not a main roach, but that's his play style.

eGremlin
eGremlin

sypher isn't smart enough to mix banadaana into enough demons to win this

and that's his only move

it's sad af

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

why is he even playing shug

King_Martha
King_Martha

These guys are afraid for parrying. Too cautious, and shug is just slow. Even with guard switch normalization.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

LMAO HIS ONE GOOD MOVE AND HE WHIFFS

Snarelure
Snarelure

Parries are something you'll see rarely at "high level play". Much safer to block.

w8t4u
w8t4u

1v1 tier list? For some reason I trust Veeky Forums's opinion on game balance way more than Ranked Boost of Leddit

Inmate
Inmate

swifter got dusted, AGAIN

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

To detail why parrying isn't safe, it's because of all of the flickering/unlocked attacks that are unparryable.
as these guys are saying, blocking is just safer

Playboyize
Playboyize

that's so dumb
these 1v1's are boring and don't look fun to watch, let alone play.

Snarelure
Snarelure

I actually like 1v1 the most desu....

TechHater
TechHater

high tier
Warlord, PK Radier
low high
Centurion
everybody else
low tier
Conq, Kensei
Valk tier
Valk

SniperWish
SniperWish

Literally unbeatable tier
Centurion in a small map
S tier
Centurion raider wahlaud
A tier
Everyone else
Kensei tier
Kensei

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

If parrying was a safer option it would be even worse, the devs are slowly working on defence meta changes though so hopefully things get better. That's why we are all waiting for the 4v4 tournament coming up later, no time to turtle up in dominion, you just have to go mad man mode and kill quickly.

Booteefool
Booteefool

who got the infinite WEBM

viagrandad
viagrandad

when i played months ago duels were fun, but i never met a "high level" player who never parried, and players were aggressive

DeathDog
DeathDog

jojo eng dub on toonami at 11:00
4v4 grudge and glory soon
Fugggg

Methnerd
Methnerd

Who the fuck is this cringemeister tool

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

I'm not high level by any means, but my playstyle always favors counters/parries/dodging

i just enjoy a more dynamic game like that.

TreeEater
TreeEater

Irl shitposter

Methnerd
Methnerd

Watch cartoons online.io
Has toonami streams anon. Or you could just stream both, or even record the episode.

hairygrape
hairygrape

I have it set to record but I don't trust sharter to not fuck up my recording.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

i.imgur.com/OBtmJxT.png This one's head looks like Thorkel from Vinland Saga

happy_sad
happy_sad

Did they nerf valk in s2? She use to have like 2bar punishes on parries

cum2soon
cum2soon

Ah I see. Well hope it works out for you.

hairygrape
hairygrape

where the hell on that site does it have streams?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

it's mad gay how heavily these 'pros' lean on guard break in this game

i know this is nothing like any other fighting game when it comes to the meta but throws are supposed to be a surprise. These people abuse it so much it get's thrown out every 15~ seconds and gets teched .

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Sorry. Brain fart at fuckimg 5am. Meant it has recorded episodes from toonami.

Emberburn
Emberburn

Shitposter drops round to an Orochi of all things. Will he ever recover?

Flameblow
Flameblow

I know it gives you a free hit after a guard break and that's why it's so useful, but it should cost stamina or something, to slowcurbabuse

idontknow
idontknow

I expected him to bring out raider

likme
likme

Oh definitely. She's just not viable against any non-retard. She's that easy to parry on PC (console she's manageable and annoying).

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Nice

TreeEater
TreeEater

Raider used to be the worst character in the game
now top tier
Conq used to be the best character in the game
now shit tier
What the fuck did I miss in season 2

Firespawn
Firespawn

ubi balancing

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

get told the tourney goes from 12-8 or something
it's fucking 11:48 PM EST
STILL have not shown dominion match with new heroes

Are you fucking kidding me

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Nerfs and even more nerfs. And a smug Roman legionare beating people up. And a cool ninja who's also average now.

Techpill
Techpill

well they did have the 2v2 with the new heroes so it's not all bad

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

turtles

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

They did the highlander/gladiator brawls for a few hours, so that probably filled a chunk of that time.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

I've never wanted someone to win a video game fight more than I want this Orochi to win right now

Inmate
Inmate

I fell asleep, what's everything I missed from the stream schedule?

I only made it to like, halfway through the Group B thing on PC.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

good shit orochi bro

DeathDog
DeathDog

NUMBER
ONE
DIGITAL
ATHLETE

hairygrape
hairygrape

How did Conq get nerfed?

Methnerd
Methnerd

Top 8 1v1 right now, dominion with new characters after.

Lunatick
Lunatick

Warlard needs a buff

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Did you see the new character brawls? Those were some good fun.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Oh boy. Go do something with conq, and say bye to your stamina. Only thing he's good for is turtling.

RumChicken
RumChicken

Orochi might win tournament
if he does, Ubi will never give him the buffs he needs

For that reason, I must pray he loses.

whereismyname
whereismyname

I missed everything before this Orochi vs Warlord, what characters are being used in the top 8?

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

So, did my mexibro win the xbone tournament?

Snarelure
Snarelure

He's going against Centbro, so I have no care which way that match goes. Both of them are cool in my book.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

number one digital choker
chokemeister

God that was a good match

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Raiders, wahlawds, """tech""" abusing bushi, cent, and roach.

eGremlin
eGremlin

Yes. Bodied German Warlord. Even parried him too lol

SniperGod
SniperGod

Why is the meta different on PC?

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Was it confirmed? That would make me happy, but at the same time it's a fact that we have an official stance that honorfagging is not "griefing" even though it blatantly fucking is

w8t4u
w8t4u

30fps and TV input lag makes defence harder on console.

Techpill
Techpill

tfw Conq main
Guess there's even less reason to come back, fuck this bad game

Firespawn
Firespawn

60fps
faster response time

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

i see of course

Booteefool
Booteefool

If he wins it proves we just weren't good enough orochis.

WebTool
WebTool

60+fps. Easier to parry but also easier to be parried. A lot more defensive at "High" tier.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

fug Ubi is retarded.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

60fps anon. Better reactions.
Due to that, blocking is more safe, parries are a nightmare sentence, and most attacks are completely telegraphed due to 60fps(isn't a bad thing, looks beautiful). Most attacks are parry bait essentially which is what Valk is. On console due to 30fps, attacks feel different and aren't as much a risky move, and that allows for a someone what different meta. But it's still same if you just turtle everything.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

isn't ubisoft's fault at all. It LITERALLY is not their fault.

It IS ENTIRELY the fault of Sony/Microsoft for making consoles that are blatantly underpowered.

Methnerd
Methnerd

"I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times."

RumChicken
RumChicken

good shit

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Both have up sides and downsides meta wise. Console can be more fun since you can throw stuff out, but characters like PK can be awful to deal with. On PC you can defend against the fast character way easier however games can also grind to a halt.

Lunatick
Lunatick

You can do well in 4v4s as long as your not facing a premade. Dont even bother w/ 1v1s or 2v2s though.

Rep 30 conq here, and I do very well in dom in general.

Supergrass
Supergrass

Wouldn't this make parrying easier?

Ubi knew what the console was capable of. They only managed to splinter their own community by making a game that does not run identically on all it's platforms.

Sony or MS didn't deceive Ubi. They didn't think of the important qualities that would give this game life. They knew what they were getting into.

Now they have to run 3 tournaments so everyone feels validated for playing on their platform of choice. It's demented.

Really, they should make PC version standard for competitive and expect players to be practiced/bring a gamepad, whatever.

Or is that how it works?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

ubi makes tournos for siege too and they have xbox/ps4/pc tournos, they are used to this so it doesnt bother them.

askme
askme

they should make PC version standard for competitiv
Would be strange seeing as 90% (probably more really) of the player base are on console.

Emberfire
Emberfire

It's so unfair that the Warlord has such a better kit. Why the fuck does Conq have like one attack. Fuck Ubisoft

MPmaster
MPmaster

underpowered
you're comparing a sub-$400 all in one machine to a $800+ gaymen pc

Soft_member
Soft_member

make the most played versions inferior
design the meta around console so it actually becomes easier on another platform

Jesus they're so dumb.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Be pretty neat if my dream last night came true. Gave a 60fps option at the sacrifice of graphics of your tv/console setting.
but it's just a silly dream ;_;

whereismyname
whereismyname

doesn't run identically
IT IS NOT
UBISOFTS
FAULT
The consoles LITERALLY cannot ever possibly be able to compete with PCs. There is NO way that they can boost the capabilities of a console to match PC, and no even slightly sane developer (yes, even Ubisoft is smart enough) would EVER POSSIBLY willingly choose to gimp their game on PC to match consoles.

No. Console players can try to blame literally everyone but Sony/Microsoft, but it is LITERALLY the consoles fault for the game's hindrance on For Honor and every other game that exists or will exist on console.

this is bait. you can build a PC that runs games at medium settings (already higher than consoles) at 60 fps for $300 easy.

likme
likme

Actually they balance around PC which is even worse.

massdebater
massdebater

I wonder how low the graphics/resolution would have to go to get a stable 60fps

Methshot
Methshot

I hope you're not talking about any hardware that released in the last few months, or comparing it to the old non-4k consoles, that would be amazingly retarded

Methnerd
Methnerd

reference yourself to

They have completely separate balance just so you know. They do not balance based on PC, but PS4 and XBone have the same balance patches.

SniperGod
SniperGod

mordhau will blow this game out of the water

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Holy christ Cent is busted as fuck hahahahaha

Evilember
Evilember

Titanfall 2 and BF1 run at 60 on all platforms, ubi fucked up and went for graphics over performance.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

who cares about the 4k meme when you can't even get above 30fps?

takes2long
takes2long

chivalry already exists
dark messiah already exists

Techpill
Techpill

25 damage on zone's first hit is completely retarded

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

God I fucking love Cent. That chain was c l e a n

likme
likme

i should play cent before he's nerfed into the dust, holy shit

Evilember
Evilember

bait this obvious

SniperGod
SniperGod

4k consoles are significantly more powerful and can run 1080p games much better

you sound like a dumb /v/ kid

idontknow
idontknow

Crutch cheese character for baddos

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

not talking about any hardware release in the last month
Why the hell would you need to buy completely brand new parts that obviously cost a lot and are extremely overpowered for your needs?
comparing it to old non-4k consoles
First of all, the consoles run at a locked maximum of 30 fps in every game when running at 4k. I say maximum because if it can't actually reach 30, PS4 will drop to 24 fps and XBone will swing around from 20-30.
Not to mention the game has to be made/patched specifically to work on those new consoles.
Now I can also make the joke of "lol needing to buy an entire new console every 2 years" but as a PC player I know that's just silly to say.

run at 60 fps on all platforms
At shitty graphics by dropping to 900p and low settings? Wow that's really great?

They can run 1080p games better sure, but they still don't hit 60fps in most cases.

Inmate
Inmate

Centurion isn't busted, the issue is zone attacks in general.

If you take the zone attack out of the combo it's only 60 damage, which isn't even the highest parry punish damage. However, multiple characters can use unlocked zone attacks to deal way more damage than they're supposed to.

I suspect that to get taken out for most characters.

hairygrape
hairygrape

You're so stupid listen to yourself.

Yes, it is common knowledge that PCs are more powerful than consoles. This is not news.

But it was no secret what the PS4 or Xbox One would be capable of, when they started producing the game, nor when it actually came out.

Instead of making the necessary decisions to compensate for the consoles OBVIOUS DISADVANTAGE IN RAW POWER, they decided to focus on (LESS IMPORTANT) things (ESPECIALLY IN THE INSTANCE OF A FIGHTING GAME).

Of course, the PC version runs great, because the ceiling on hardware is not fixed.

But Ubisoft should have focused on making a competitive game, and where it is most viable for competition happens to be in it's smallest community because of their poor design decisions - I'm not saying cater to the consoles as a rule, but if you plan on making your largest playerbase there, you better be making it good for them.

2 things should have happened when they were making this game - they should have decided it is a fighting game, the meta is key, and the longevity depends on it's playability in a competitive space - if it goes on console we must cater this.

OR - This game will only run how we want it and look how we want it on PC. We should be catering to PC.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

reddit

thats why theres only one guy who has even played cent in this tourney, right? because he's cheesy and gives easy wins?

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

and in many cases they lock multiplayer games to 30 so the inferior consoles aren't at a disadvantage.

hairygrape
hairygrape

"I main Cent"
Easy way to dismiss someone's opinion outright

WebTool
WebTool

As I said, they went for graphics over performance. It's their own fault, over devs know better and know what to prioritise. I'm done explaining such a simple concept to you now, you're one sense mother fucker.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

This is what you want on consoles? Completely shitty graphics just to get 60fps?
youtube.com/watch?v=SOjJVsOi8YY

I know this is made on PC, but it's still a good point

Snarelure
Snarelure

you are an idiot comparing apples to oranges saying """"""PC"""""" is automatically better. PC can run the game better. it can also run it much much worse, completely depends on the hardware.

And when you use your fucking brain for 5 seconds, and look at the hardware and specs in the consoles, for the time they were released, at the price point they were released. they are a very good deal.

nobody wants another
599 us dollars
situation

it's not underpowered. it's just right for the price

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

For Honor doesn't even look that good, why does it run at 30 FPS?

Skullbone
Skullbone

Pay2Win character

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

"it goes full runescape"
Honestly doubt you'd need to go that far lol.

iluvmen
iluvmen

it's not ubis fault it runs at 30
admit they went for graphics over frame rate unlike nearly every other multiplay MP game
Activate your almond mate.

Methnerd
Methnerd

That's not the point. It obviously would not look as good. They made a very deliberate decision when making this game - we want it to look prettier than it plays - and that's fucking mistake for a fighting game, every time.

The fact that it runs better on PC is frankly just a happy side effect of the fact that the PC does not have fixed hardware. There are PCs that run For Honor worse, and there are those that could run 4 instances.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

grind for a few hours to have no openers character.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

an option to chose between better graphics and 30fps and worse graphics and 60fps would solve that problem

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Jesus fucking Christ Ubisoft, fucking fix zone attacks already. They're so broken. They're either unparrayable instant garbage (Nobushi), flicker mix ups that are impossible to punish (Orochi and others) or deal insane damage on the ground (Centurion, Peacekeeper). Thats not even listing all the characters with busted zones, just the ones that are the biggest offenders.

How are these still a problem after months? They've been broken forever.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

This is what you want on consoles? Completely shitty graphics just to get 60fps?
honestly I can't imagine they'd have to make too many graphical concessions. as far as PC releases go, for honor is very well optimized graphically speaking.

MPmaster
MPmaster

good argument

massdebater
massdebater

it's not a fighting game

anything that pisses off fighting game cancer is an improvement

JunkTop
JunkTop

Titanfall 2 looks nice enough on bone. You're just making an ass of yourself.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

I want to be able to have lower graphical settings to get higher FPS
Good job, you want a PC.

they were a good deal
You literally just pulled that completely out of your ass.
extremetech.com/gaming/171158-can-you-build-a-gaming-pc-better-than-the-ps4-for-400
This was made in 2013. The specs are better, it's cheaper, runs better, and isn't locked down software, and you get free online.
Fun fact, Microsoft/Sony have absolutely no reason to charge for online access to games. They don't host the servers, the devs do.

Reference yourself to

You want a PC

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Smug Patrick never fails to make me chuckle. Thanks

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Just wait for Glad's zone. It's an unblockable shield backhand that confirms the heavy damage second hit. The backhand is like 500ms too. Shit's nutty.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

What is it? a combat game?

Spamalot
Spamalot

It's an extreme example, but it is still a viable example.

farquit
farquit

Centurion is one of the worst 1v1 characters in the game. However, thanks to zone attacks and playing against a bunch of shitters he is essentially just parrying into 80 damage combos over and over because his opponents are garbage and he is abusing a broken mechanic.

This same thing can be done by a peace keeper if they get you out of stamina.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

So whats the best gear for 4v4 now and days? I have a rep 8 warden and rep 7 cent ready for s3 but havnt had time to upgrade gear yet.

Emberburn
Emberburn

I like having an actual player base if I'm honest. You're back peddling pretty hard now.

RumChicken
RumChicken

mordhau will be better than both

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

You make a lot of concessions, though: We haven’t included the price of an operating system, nor a keyboard/mouse/gamepad. The DM-387 case is a lot bigger than the PS4. There’s no optical drive

so it's only cheaper and better if you cut out a lot of the necessary shit that comes with a console
great """"""comparison"""""" retard

Inmate
Inmate

you're delusional if you think it's a fluke that centurion is in the finals of the largest cash tournament this game has ever had

TreeEater
TreeEater

games like Nioh offer you the option to play at 30fps with better graphics or 60fps with worse graphics, why can't for honor?

Illusionz
Illusionz

Stop giving this retard (you)s.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

posts bait reaction images
has been taking my bait for 15 minutes
You played yourself

Inmate
Inmate

(true)

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

trailer looks exactly like chivalry complete with awful gamefeel and glitchy animations

StonedTime
StonedTime

you're back peddling now
LITERALLY how?
if ANYTHING you're the one doing it now by saying you want a playerbase when we are talking about the cost to performance of PC to PS4/XBone

everything in there is much much cheaper now 4 years later
you could still easily afford all of those things and not cost more than a PS4/XBone

That I will in fact concede is Ubisoft's fault. The issue is development time.

Just because I'm right doesn't mean I'm baiting.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

60 FPS isn't important for most games, for honor included
The game is still fun at 30, and it's also fucking dead as hell on PC, even tho it's what you PC fags would shill as "the better experience", even though the population on PC is so low that you'll get matched with players at the wrong skill level constantly
Even though the game is the least stable on PC
Xbone, a pretty poor selling console, has like around a 60k player 24 hour peak, while PC has had around 4k for quite some time

For honor is not like a classic fighting game are you dense? Every classic fighting game is smooth 60 on consoles because those games would be literally unplayable at 30
For honor is so "unplayable" at 30 that most of the population is on consoles and nobody complains about "30" except PC shills

farquit
farquit

polish cuck needs to learn how to play for real in 2 days

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

(You)

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Unlock whore Nobushi about to take the tourney
CAN CENTBRO STOP HIM? EITHER WAY, REDDIT IS GONNA BE PISSED.

TUNE IN IN LIKE 15 MINUTES TO SEE THE EXCITING CONCLUSION

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Did you not see the competition he was facing? These are people who clearly have no idea what they're doing.

And as I said, most of this guys success is a broken combo relying on a broken mechanic that is universal to most of the cast. Unlocked zone attacks are fucking cancerous, and if you take that way from the Centurion (as well as everyone else) his damage goes down by a significant margin.

My point is that the character isn't OP and doesn't need a direct nerf, zone attacks in general need to be fixed. That does mean he is getting "nerfed" but it also means most of the cast is getting nerfed.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

when did I say it was a "classic" fighting game?

You're literally putting words in my (mouth). Slow down kid. We know it's not SF.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

What would it take for Conq to be viable in high level?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

I don't care about taking bait as long as it's obvious i'm taking bait. There's a difference between falling for a trap and sticking your leg in to see what happens.

For each reply I give (You), you have given me one in return.

whereismyname
whereismyname

Merge conq and warlord

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

double stamina

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

everything in there is much much cheaper now
that's not how hardware pricing works, old shit is lower value

sure you could build a much better machine for $400 now years later. but the xbone S costs 200
the ps4 slim costs 200. and that's usually as a game bundle

farquit
farquit

and not be warlord tier broken?
a full rework

Methshot
Methshot

delete him off the roster

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

better stamina management
charged heavy is unblockable

Conq fixed right there. These two simple fixes would make Conq viable until more fine tuning and a complete rework could be done.

whereismyname
whereismyname

no keyboard/mouse/gamepad
$5 keyboard, $5 mouse, why would you need a gamepad?
optical drive
Who the fuck needs an optical drive?

Here's a more up to date build for you faggots. Took 10 seconds to google "2017 console killer", 2 minutes to skim through the video to make sure it's actually viable parts and that they aren't completely old and are up to date with current games.
youtube.com/watch?v=ZKt33_a1wGo

What is your argument now?

Inmate
Inmate

Warlord-tier broken
both Warlord players just lost, to an Orochi and a Nobushi
Kek

Emberfire
Emberfire

You said
and that's fucking mistake for a fighting game, every time.
It's only a mistake if it's a fighting game like SF, Injustice, Tekken and so on
That argument is nonsense, since For honor is not that, making 30 acceptable
If it was unplayable there wouldn't be 150k people playing on consoles and barely 15k on PC when there's a free weekend

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

That Ubisoft decided to prefer graphics over performance knowing full well that consoles could not do both?

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

you get my fucking point, stop being pedantic

takes2long
takes2long

$5 keyboard
>>>>>>>$5 mouse
yeah I'm sure that $5 madcatz controller from ebay is acceptable quality for a console too

why would you need a gamepad
for all the games (like for honor) that were designed around them?

Methnerd
Methnerd

Unlock spam niggerbushi vs centurion
Thats not fair.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Honestly. Warlord.
headbutt
Dodged
heavy
Parried
light
Parried
headbutt into light
Blocked
dodge
Oops you can dodge a foot in any direction, you're getting gb'd.
try to ledge someone
impyling anyone gets guardbroken
gb off parry
implying anyone attacks warlord
Also your crap range means a decent Kensei can beat you with light attacks and guardbreaks. Don't even think about guardbraking him you'll never reach him and if you try to trade you'll miss and get hit anyone.

Kensei is bad
No. You're bad. Kensei is top tier and has decent mixups like his overhead into side into gb or overhead into side into other side.
He's not a bad character.
no openers
He has the same options as raider.

FastChef
FastChef

The game is balanced around it's mechanics, as best as it can, but in the case of competitive games - anywhere - any kind - how many are happy to settle for a longer response time and slower frame rate?

Lunatick
Lunatick

Not even going to be a fight. This dude rode unlock nobushi to 10 grand two nights before it gets removed.

massdebater
massdebater

i-it's tech!
It's abuse and he should be kicked from the tournament

iluvmen
iluvmen

Please fucking kill this unlock spamming Nobushi

Flameblow
Flameblow

nice b8

DeathDog
DeathDog

Would you buy a game that looks like shit?
Yes?
Do you think that everyone else would as well?
No?
That's why. They certainly could, but a lot of console players are casual players that don't even know what a frame rate is or they don't care about it. That's what they bank on.

For Honor and basically every game (I can only think of 3 that don't) have mouse and keyboard support. If you want a gamepad you are buying for personal convenience not actually needing it.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

You sure see a ton of these cheap console killer machines, but it's like games still sell more and are more alive on consoles?
Why is that if PC is so greater and cheaper?
Also does this build make for honor not dead on PC?
And at what FPS does it run uncharted 4 at?

JunkTop
JunkTop

Kensei main in full-blown denial, sad

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

wasnt the unlock shit supposed to be fixed or is that in season 3?

iluvmen
iluvmen

Because it's good enough for for honor
60 fps would be better of course, but that's not happening

FastChef
FastChef

Even without unlock nobushi would smash cent.

MPmaster
MPmaster

Fixed in the S3 patch on the 15th.

Firespawn
Firespawn

nobushi
good
Without unlock spam abusing Nobushi is garbo

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

A Roman legionare and a Female samurai square off.....
At the finals
Truly the most eye opening of matches

SniperWish
SniperWish

I hope the cent wins, fuck this tech abusing faggot nobushi.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

nobody said anything about a gamepad except you you retard. but for a game like for honor it's basically required.

you definitely are not going to play any video games well with a $5 mouse either

farquit
farquit

ground zone spam vs unlock zone spam
Eye-opening is one word for it I suppose

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Female """samuria"""
Weren't they housewives trained to protect their shit with a pole arm?

5mileys
5mileys

Centurion is abusing grounded zone attacks though.

They're both abusing things, though I'll give it to the Centurion that all he is doing is increasing his damage, he isn't spamming one fucking move over and over because it's unparryable.

cum2soon
cum2soon

company banks on selling a fun great looking game
this is somehow bad in PC gamers head because of the 60 fps meme
Interesting

Techpill
Techpill

This. Kensei is ridiculously good. It's Leddit who act like he is bad because they lowkey want a buff so he becomes the next meta character.
He's good where he's at and he can take in a warden anyday.
He doesn't have to put up with wardens shoulder shenanigans because his dodge attack is timed perfectly to screw with warden, warden will miss his gb and his bash and if warden cancels he can't do it fast enough to counter the dodge attack.
Warden also has no options for dealing with Kensei defensively, he can try and go for parries but that's super risky because Kensei can punish them easily. Kensei also gets a lot of damage from a wallbang, warden gets his basic top heavy.
Kensei also has an unblockable that has tremendous range and good mix up capability so you're stuck either dodging only to eat a side heavy or guardbreak or waiting to parry and hoping your timing is tight enough that you don't fall a mix up.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Was honestly to lazy to google her real life counterpart anon. Just used sammy.

eGremlin
eGremlin

Nobushi isn't a Samurai.

Only Kensei and Orochi are officially Samurai, according to the lore. Shugoki and Nobushi just fight for the Samurai.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

sell more and are more alive on consoles
Where are your stats on this anon? Neither microsoft nor sony release sales information.

I do not understand this sentence. If you would rephrase it again I can answer it. My guess is something along the lines of "Why is it that PC is so great if it's cheaper?" but that basically explains itself.

A single game makes you want to buy a more expensive console and pay for online services? Well you can stay on console if that's what you want

Depends on your graphical settings. Anywhere from 10 to 100. But probably 60fps on medium settings as that's a staple on console killer builds. They aim for at LEAST 60fps on medium settings as medium settings usually look better than consoles and 60fps is obviously higher than consoles. (except for the 900p 60fps pro and scorpion that require a patch for the game

Except I didn't say gamepad at all until read into the website that said that it doesn't include a gamepad.
for a game like for honor it's basically required
lol no. you're pulling shit out of your ass now. haven't you been watching the stream at all? you got a bunch of people using m/kb there as well as a lot of people across the game using it.

I didn't say it was bad once. I said it IS NOT UBISOFT'S FAULT that the console versions aren't on par with PCs.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Cent does the zone to squeeze more out of his punishes.

Nobushi is unlocking and making every attack she does unparriable.

One of them is very obviously being a bigger cunt.

RumChicken
RumChicken

I have shitskin reading comprehension
blocked :)

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Sperg post

TechHater
TechHater

Nobushi or Cent win
Reddit complains about whichever wins
They get nerfed instead of the devs realizing both of them are using unlocked zone attacks

Supergrass
Supergrass

So you finally understand why it is Ubisoft's fault that it is 30FPS on console?

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Because Sony and Microsoft made an underpowered console so they had to limit the frame rate to keep up the graphical settings because that's what sells in our modern day game industry?

Inmate
Inmate

He gets 18 damage off of side lights. His second confirmed hit is only 3 damage.

hairygrape
hairygrape

Yea shugoki is a temple guardian and nobushi I think were women and housewives of samuai who were trained to use a lightweight polearm to defend the household.

Skullbone
Skullbone

Nobushi is using unlocked everything. Unlocked zone, unlocked side dashes, you name it and he's unlocking it.

Firespawn
Firespawn

not underpowered, budget friendly

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

The cent should try his luck and swap to LB, no way you can get in on the cunt abusing unlock tech. Shove on block could at least give you a chance.

RavySnake
RavySnake

that's only when it's the side light off a shoulder bash; from neutral it does 24

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

This proves this wrong. Not to mention paying for online services.

It is certainly easier to buy a console and play, but it certainly is not more budget friendly.

King_Martha
King_Martha

Even battlefield 1 runs at 60 on console, there's no excuse.

takes2long
takes2long

At 900p on PS4, and 720p on XBone.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

no it doesn't you're comparing a $400 skeleton system to a $200 complete system + games

kill yourself

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

every sweat pigment and pixel must be viewed.
even when in action filled combat

Lunatick
Lunatick

Warden is a crappier orochi without his SB. The best he can do is toss out a few top lights and hope to flicker a zone.
He used to be really good with his cancel and gb mixup.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

If you had to make a race car for a race with a weight regulation, is it the weight regulations fault you had to throw out the leather bucket seats and other internals out of the car? Or is it your fault your car lost the race because you left the AC, oak trim and backseats in the interior?

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Yes, more frames are more important than res for multiplayer stuff. Ubi made a dumb decision.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

tfw to smart too unlock everything

DeathDog
DeathDog

I honestly cant believe I'm cheering for a cent, but this unlock "tech" is such cancer

eGremlin
eGremlin

I said it IS NOT UBISOFT'S FAULT that the console versions aren't on par with PCs.
How the fuck are the weak ass consoles supposed to reach PC quality at 60 fps?
That's not possible

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

unlock nobushi wins

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

do you hear about anyone not buying battlefield on console due to it's graphics?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Tfw want to cheer on centurion
know he is a RP fag.

askme
askme

You're making no fucking sense
Every console uses a dynamic resolution
When the action gets going you won't notice that
Sure if you take a screenshot you will, but that's not playing the game

eGremlin
eGremlin

Roman will have to shake either of theose fuckers hands
You reap what you sow I guess

Spamalot
Spamalot

Are the commentators supressing the fact that Nobushi is mad cheesy rn? Is this is an acceptable tech? Is this going to get patched?

Does Nobushi ever lose?

Soft_member
Soft_member

someone get these "digital athletes" to /fit/ before it's too late

Playboyize
Playboyize

The nobu
Holy shit this is lame.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

unlock nobu is literally undefeated during the entire hero series tourney

RumChicken
RumChicken

Centurion is just really strong
This subhuman toilet cleaner is actively abusing bugs.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Is PS4 can do Titanfall 2, Wolfenstein, and Project CARS at 60fps, it can do For Honor. They should've either went with dynamic resolution or siege's checkerboardrending / watchdogs temporal filtering

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

skeleton system
Not even close by far. That's a completely capable computer. Also $260

Thank you. You know that FPS is good and graphics aren't as important. If only sony/microsoft had a build in option to change those settings...

I think you think that I think that I don't want consoles to be able to have different graphical settings. I am all for it, but sony/microsoft like making it very difficult to do so.

Refer to

They aren't. It isn't.

Do you hear anyone not buying BF1 on PC because it has too high FPS?

Fun fact: They use dynamic resolution when the game can't reach 30fps. Then they drop down to 24 on PS4 (instantly, not even trying to get 25-29) and gravitates around on XBone.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

THE NERVE OF THIS FUCKING TOLIET CLEANER

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

I have been a xbox goyim forever and even I think consoles didn't get 60fps because xbox.
They should of crapped out the xboneX sooner
Ps4 pro was a real low blow by sony.

Spamalot
Spamalot

tfw you ride a glitch to $10,000 just before it gets removed from the game
tfw you didn't expect it to be this easy

RavySnake
RavySnake

Even roman knows kek

TechHater
TechHater

Ruins a tournament with """tech""" that gets fixed in two days
What a piece of shit.

whereismyname
whereismyname

Sprinting moves should be removed from the game.
You shouldn't be able to attack when unlocked.
Sprinting should cost stamina.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

i didn't think it would be this easy

girlDog
girlDog

cant wait when unlock is gonna be a real thing in FH2 just as combos were a glitch in Street Fighter

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

post $400 build
claim it's $260

K Y S
Y
S

SniperGod
SniperGod

"MIGHT NEED TO CHANGE YOUR PLAYSTYLE"

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

This much denial of simple reason

You're really dumb. I know you think you're smart because you built your PC (I built mine too) but you're really really dumb.

5mileys
5mileys

Never have I been so livid about a person playing a fuckin game.....

idontknow
idontknow

Here's BF1 player numbers now

PC
11,884
Peak 24h
24,214

XBOXONE
42,437
Peak 24h
60,413

PS4
46,639
Peak 24h
77,373

People don't seem to mind bro

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

tfw literally all of Glad's moveset would work with a rapier/buckler character

COME ON UBI. YOU MADE A GREAT CHARACTER AND THEN FLUBBED THE AESTHETIC

whereismyname
whereismyname

This guy went full scumbag to win.

I can't think of a better champion for For Honor.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

AFAIK, Halo 5, Project CARS and Wolfenstein are also 60fps on Xbox One.
But yes, MS Scorpio should've been done Earlier and fuck Sony for Pro. I am not buying PS5 during launch now, will wait for inevitable, PS5 Pro.

Honestly Pro and Scorpio level of consoles should've been released at their release, also doesn't help that these shit consoles have shit cpu.

happy_sad
happy_sad

Do you hear about people not buying BF1 on PC because it has too high FPS?
no but that has nothing to do with what i said

massdebater
massdebater

combos were a glitch
and suddenly everything makes sense

into the trash it goes

Skullbone
Skullbone

what did roman whisper in his ear /fhg/?

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

"I've got a barrel of acid waiting for you after dominion"

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

This fucking nobushi

StonedTime
StonedTime

Im going to lose my job you little shit.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

there will never be a ps5 or an xbox 4
ps4 pro is the ps5
this is the new model, continually update the same systems.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

"You may have won $10000, but you'll always be polish now get out"

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

"We're giving the prize money to Bandanaa"

TreeEater
TreeEater

"Was your father a locksmith because you're really good at unlocking"

Emberfire
Emberfire

"One off ze strenfs off ze WAHLARD, ees, uh, 'e knows where you live."

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

"Heil hydra"

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Nah. Patcher confirmed PS5 will be half step above Pro.
So we can fully expect a generational leap PS5 now.

TechHater
TechHater

top heh

King_Martha
King_Martha

What the fuck does half step above pro and a generational leap PS5 supposed to mean?
Elaborate please

Inmate
Inmate

The real question, will ps5 and xbox x be near or same level?

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

I can picture this guys left eye wandering out of the sheer rage he's using to change subjects and supress the fact that he can't admit he's wrong about the game running at 30fps being a ubisoft decision and therefore ubisofts fault it runs at 30fps second

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

FH2
unless they pull another siege it's probably more likely a different dev improves on the concept eventually

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

pachter
confirmed
that guy is about as reliable as my dad, who works for nintendo

FastChef
FastChef

the fucking PS4 is 260 you retard

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

HAIL HYDRA!

Firespawn
Firespawn

pin and toe stab would be a little weird, at least
honestly, if they came out with a rapier/buckler character that had glad's aesthetic I would be very confused

eGremlin
eGremlin

"You know, I didn't have to unlock to cut your brakes."

Nojokur
Nojokur

Either two are probably true.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Most things I read about console releases these days seem to believe they'll turn to a Mobile phone model. new one every year or 2, a middle version in between major versions, hardware updates become incremental as opposed to revolutionary.

I'm no analyst but I've been alive long enough to think that's probably right and I can't wait to get tired of playing games.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

It's scummy as fuck, but it's also the tournaments fault both for taking place before the tech is removed, and not just setting a fucking rule in place to make unlock tech an automatic disqualification

viagrandad
viagrandad

TEAM GLORY MOTHER FUCKERS LETS GO

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Highlander got BOTH console players and the unlock shitter

RIGGED

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Doesn't matter how much information I try to give you, you don't change your mind. It's a curse of console players. You get convinced that you have the best system by marketing and echochambers saying every PC costs $3000.
There's no hope. This all started because I said that it isn't ubisoft's fault that the consoles and PC play differently.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Google the article.
Half Step above pro would mean it'd be slightly more powerful than Pro. Like PS4 to PS4 Pro levels of improvement instead of PS2-PS3. Which was generational leap.

That's why I said It'd be generational leap. Patcher said it'll be slight improvement and dude is 90% wrong with his shitposts predictions.

Also PS5 confirmed to be not backward compatible and to be released 2020 and later.

likme
likme

So what classes can we expect in the future/would we like to see?

Lunatick
Lunatick

not knowing the devs are full blown kangs

RumChicken
RumChicken

reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! People have different preferences than I do! Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

NO SURRENDER

Is this our plane scene?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

lmao nobody ever said consoles were the best system. This wasn't even about console wars, until you made it about that, because you're a reactionary little herb.

You brought up the hardware differences, the price comparisons, the arbitrary combative bullshit, instead of just facing the simple fact: The game's framerate is lower on console because ubisoft decided to prioritize the visuals over the framerate.

happy_sad
happy_sad

They have done every jap meme now
Every other weapon is too samey except for staves
Will they have the balls to do a chinese subfaction.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

I wonder who could be behind this post??

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

No. This person did. Good try though.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Have we started the crusades?

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

if more graphicly impressive games can run 60fps on console then it's obviously ubi's fault

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Chinese Sword?
Chinese Pole arm?

What's left???

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

REVENGE working. Ah about time ha ha

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Jap swordsmanship
But get this
With European weapons.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

China was nearly Europe tier when it came to weapon variety. There's load of stuff they could do.

whereismyname
whereismyname

MAN this map is fuckin sick

5mileys
5mileys

Come back after not playing at all during season 2
heard Centurion was unfun to fight
Raider is apparently top tier cancer when he used to be the worst class in the game
conq is now a joke when he used to be top 4
new DLC classes looks fucking busted as all hell
did Ubisoft have a stroke or something? I thought they were fixing things

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

The Japanese were awful swordsman though.

King_Martha
King_Martha

go to sleep
come back
the show is still on
Holy fuck. How did 1v1 ended?

Snarelure
Snarelure

Raider was the worst character in the game

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Unlock nobushi won

TechHater
TechHater

cent won against the nobushi using unlock glitches

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Maybe they could add some Krauser from RE4

youtube.com/watch?v=YxeE6autSBw

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

once they run out of japanese characters they'll definitely go with mongols or chinese, only makes sense
pretty certain we'll get a more fitting knight in season 5/year 2, a sword and shield character is probably the most likely, really hope there aren't any more fucking assassins at least

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Unlock Nobushi won the whole thing without dropping a set. Roman passive aggressively told him "MIGHT NEED TO RETHINK YOUR PLAYSTYLE."

The new characters don't look that bad. Glad looks really strong, but Highlander looks awful.

RumChicken
RumChicken

REEEEEEE

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

GET 360 NO SCOPED

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

youtube.com/watch?v=u8kZf3TIsfg

Supergrass
Supergrass

nah

Lunatick
Lunatick

Roman always looking like hes holding his last to not go postal
Poor guy

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Glad confirmed more broken in ganks than Centurion

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

He did learn from his big bro :)

Skullbone
Skullbone

Does For Honor need a grappler? Maybe Agent 47's Fiber wire?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

You want defense to be pretty low, this can be done with a balanced helm, high def chest, and lowest def shoulder. Defense is useless due to everyone having defense pen. For revenge def of dur it's either really, I prefer defense to survive the first few seconds. Stamina reduction and regen are both good but you want a little more in reduction so you keep your stamina higher regularly. Go all in on attack for weapons it can make the difference for that magic pixel. Defense penetration is obvious atm but with the chip damage changes coming block damage might be the better option. Revive speed is good in 4v4 and can be what you need during that clutch revive. Execution health regen can be outclassed by feats, power ups, and capture points. I still like it due to the quick time to kill on my executions. Revenge gained can be good in the upcoming patch and revenge attack can make the difference, but both have been nerfed to hell(rightfully). Revenge gained is the safe choice considering how good you already will be in revenge.

Also be sure you look good. No point in playing this game if you don't have 3 separate and themed loadouts to look sexy af senpai.

Methnerd
Methnerd

didn't that highlander get parried in revenge? isn't that not supposed to happen in the season 3 build?

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

glad does a toe pin
ballista hits in the head
Pottery

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

That death message just said a Highlander top heavy is 80 fucking damage.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

This very much isn't the S3 build.

Methnerd
Methnerd

So are classes balanced in duels yet? Or has the game mode been abandoned? Haven't played since the beginning when PK spam was dominant.

SniperGod
SniperGod

the casters explicitly mentioned they were running the season 3 build, that's why i was surprised

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

So are classes balanced in duels yet?
*inhales*
PFFFFFFFHAHAHAHA

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

gladiator confirmed op, did you see that toe spam.

Supergrass
Supergrass

But the 'no parries while in revenge' change did NOT make it to the live server.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

LOL no.
Don't bother with duel, it will always be a sweaty try hard mode. Devoid of fun and variety.

w8t4u
w8t4u

Gladiator is insane. His zone is better than PKs, and he has constant fast unblockables. The one thing I think he has against him is that he doesn't have any soft feints or hard mixups.

Supergrass
Supergrass

its a really short range tho

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

I wish it was tuesday already, its also my birthday tomorrow.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Was that highlander arrow storm at the end a reworked arrow storm or highlander unique one since hes not a samurai?

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

here, have a (you)

girlDog
girlDog

Hey, it's also my birthday tomorrow. The 14th of August. Gotta spend today and tomorrow with family, then got the 15th largely to myself.

massdebater
massdebater

It's fucking spears lol. No fire arrows, legit raining down giant spears

Supergrass
Supergrass

Happy birthday for tomorrow!
Now I'm to sleep, night all.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

I figured this was probably the case. Thanks for the honesty guys.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

fair

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Thanks. I have like 100k iron and like 60k steel saved up with like 20 boxes that i can use right on release. Probably pick up both heroes and figure out which one to level this season

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

kek

Techpill
Techpill

happy birthday anon

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

So, what we've gathered is:

Gladiator looks like a hoot and a half to play as and generally balanced to play against.

Highlander looks lacking gameplay-wise and his only strengths are damage and unblockables, while otherwise appearing as nothing but a walking parry dispenser.

Ballistas OP as fuck, nerf pls
Ballistas hilarious as fuck, nerf pls

France is preparing to declare war on Poland.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

are you forgetting highlander has crush counters in all directions unlike warden?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

"I never expected it to be this easy :)"
Never have I wanted to punch a faggot in the face so hard....

Methshot
Methshot

France is preparing to declare war on Poland.
W-What?
Also implying France Would win and not just retreat after 5 hours.

Lunatick
Lunatick

His feints look more fun

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Somebody defend this.

Snarelure
Snarelure

I didn't catch how it happened, but i'm guessing feats or revenge. Watching the brawls earlier made it clear that there is no way Highlander hits that hard.

Skullbone
Skullbone

Roman nearly went fucking Nuclear on that Polock who one by spamming unlocks as Nobushi.

eGremlin
eGremlin

So the One Shot Heavies were true after all.
On Shinobis

Inmate
Inmate

Which fighter are you anons excited for? I was mostly really hype for the Gladiator, but hearing the HL's attacks and shouts really got me excited to try him out

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

FemGlad.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Highlander. I just don't give a shit about Glad. He looks pretty gross, and I can't play good unless I look good.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Still Gladiator. Nerfed or not, niggas got an appeal just like shinobi. I'll try HighL later on of course, but come 22nd I'm being a Roman again.

whereismyname
whereismyname

I stopped the stream after a few of the brawls. Whats this about roman and the nobushi?

farquit
farquit

I just don't give a shit about Glad. He looks pretty gross
How can one man have such shit taste?

RavySnake
RavySnake

Glady looks /fa/ as fuck. Fucking Romans sure know how to dress.

Spamalot
Spamalot

Unlock tech abusing polish toliet cleaner won. Roman said May haven to change your playstyle. Then whispered something in his ear

RumChicken
RumChicken

it's just superior block, not a full blown crushing counterstrike.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

it's not, all highlander heavys do 30 damage, his top heavy in defensive stance does 40. His biggest fault is that he doesn't do enough damage for how slow he is.

happy_sad
happy_sad

I wasn't thrilled with any of the armor sets. The OP FemGlad looks solid, but other than that I have yet to see a Gladiator that didn't look bottom of the barrel.

I'm also not sold on any of the Highlander sets, but I think his default design is better, so him having lowtier gear is less crippling. Plus, Highlander's claymore easily has better options than the trident. I was looking for good trident pieces during Warrior's Den and I counted maybe 2 good heads.

TechHater
TechHater

FemGlad set
That's what angers me desu senpai. All of Gladiator's stuff looks all clean and normal and actually good and matches while Centurion's stuff has a bunch of weird edges and has pieces missing and just generally looks messy and way too busy. Not only do all the other characters need move reworks they also need fucking gear reworks.

Methnerd
Methnerd

wew boy

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

ROBBED

Flameblow
Flameblow

honestly i laughed more from that image than i did making mine

askme
askme

Play Dominion
Their Team: Grizzled Alpha tester pros who are mind linked with one another, relaying perfect tactics and where to be on the map to each other. Knowing that the points are worth more than getting kills.
My team: A bunch of knuckle-dragging, drooling idiots who are throwing themselves to the meat grinder while complaining that the enemy is hacking and that we're losing because everyone is trying to fight off the points, neglecting that they're even there. Probably thought they queued for Skirmish or Elimination.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

what did he say?

w8t4u
w8t4u

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