Roguelike General

>falseflagging
Fuck you, I legitimately love Tangledeep.

Hi /dcssg/ how are those 'updates' going?

>tfw the Elona general in /jp/ is more alive than /rlg/ as a whole
Kinda saddens me desu, Brogue was some of the most fun I have had playing videogames and I only discovered it because of you guys.

/jp/ is full of actual autists though, /rlg/ just has people who pretend to be spergs

>/dcssg/
>when there was so much PCB

/rlg/ has too many normies.
We need proper ToME autists who stack numbers and do statistic analysis, not
>muh tite design
>I don't actually know what I want, I just complain about shit I don't like
or oat satan tier low functioning autists who just grind.

>ToME
>Austists
If it has tiles, it's for casuals and you have to make your own challenge rules to make it fun. Easy as that.

You CAN play ToME in ASCII, though

where's your madness win if it's so casual, nigger?

ToME above normal is pretty autismal.
To finish insane, you need to be a genuine sperg.
To finish madness, you have to be so deep in the spectrum that you need inverse Fourier transform just to interact with real world.

Tome's ascii looks like PCB's tiles, though. You can't customize it for shit because the ascii is actually just tiles that look like ascii and that's because the ToME engine is a complete joke. Even ADoM managed to actually get a decent font set and it has eldritch tentacles.

dude insane is easy now

T A N G L E D E E P
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A
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no

Looks cute. What is it from ?

>smf.cataclysmdda.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=9XFlrBKXfnpHxWDyG77m42&topic=14877.0

>To whom it may concern: Kevin knows best. If you think he doesn't, debate with him civily until you realize why kevin is right.

>I have debated with him several times, and can credit myself no wins to date. Much to my frustration, though I'm pretty sure I have gotten a few suggestions through.

>Kevin and the other devs are all human and capable of error, but are quick to correct any bug or mistakes.

tl,dr: Cata Devs can make mistakes, minus Kevin.

Kevin's Defense Force so incapable of defending their autistic leader they trip over their own arguments.

Anyway, what you guys think the game would be like if Whales never left?

whalesdev.tumblr.com/post/96006509591/its-nice-see-you-back-and-working-on-continuing

Kevin is sexy and smart and he always makes the right decisions. He has done nothing wrong.

>debate with him civily until you realize why kevin is right
If it didn't come from a 4000+ post cuckoldry veteran, I'd consider it sarcasm.

CDDA unironically isn't even a roguelike

If someone disagrees with Kevin he just sicks his wife on them anyway.

Kevin Attac
But also
Kevin Protec

smf.cataclysmdda.com/index.php?topic=14821.15

>Dude gives sane suggestion where one of his points is to make heavy weapons skill so miniguns don't use fucking Rifles skill to shoot.

>"How do any of the alternatives improve it in any meaningful way? If you merge shotguns and rifles, the minigun still won't fit in either."

God fucking hell, can you even read Kevin?

Stop trying to make drama on the forums, Coolthulu is really nervous about forking the project by himself and you're literally (bibliographically) just making it harder for him.

>Anyway, what you guys think the game would be like if Whales never left?
We have been blessed enough to see the trainwreck that was cataclysm 2.

It's an action adventure! Ofcourse.

>blocks your coding.jpg
Chortled hard

Why do I have the feeling you are Coolthulu?

He probably reads DDA IRC.
t. logged on DDA IRC

Nethack is cool

I read him on DDA IRC, that he lurks /rlg/, specially when he commented that he liked when the IA dev trips in this thread.

Well, the other reason for why he can't be him is that I am Spartacus.

There's not such meme in the IRC.
Hence you are Coolthulhu.

The other guy isn't, though.
I mean, DCSS

And now I'm starting to think that you are Astraltor or knocktwi

My name is Kevin, and I hate every single one of you.

You sound like Kevin's wife.

Working as intended

Regarding above posts- I feel like in the recent years the ToME community became more toxic than many competitive multiplayer titles populations out there :/ it's not even constructive criticism, just plain trolling. I don't know why such things are allowed on these forums.

More skills just add more bloat though.

Kevin stated his intention to add more skills to handle all the edge cases.

Really? I had hopes after they merged fabrication and construction.

Wasn't Cool the one who pushed that one?

Wouldn't know.
I don't keep up with the behind the scenes stuff.

Future of DDA:
>spend 10 minutes waking up due to low "waking up" skill
>brush teeth 5 times (4 first times failed due to low skill)
>pick up trusty overpowered katana - the only weapon you have skill in, because "japanese swords" is a separate skill from "western swords", but it's OK because you can mass-craft katanas so never need any other melee weapon
>pick up a laser gun - the only kind of a gun you have >1 skill in, because "carbine", "battle rifle", "sniper rifle" and "hunting rifle" are all different skills with no cross-training between them
>manually pick up your crops because medieval japanese peasant simulator with laser guns is realistic
>the crops don't drop much because your "picking crops" skill is too low
>go to town to kill roaming hordes that never approach your farm
>don't use drugs other than painkillers, because it's realistic that drugs suck and there is no reason to use them
>the town is full of hulks, but it's OK because they have no AI and thus you can trivially kite them, because zombies with AI are unrealistic

>pick up trusty overpowered katana
>overpowered katana
>overpowered

It was nerfed, the zwei is better now.

>tfw you will never become Kevin
Why even live?

Alright let settle this, Skirmisher vs Archer, who wins?

Archer is def stronk right now in tome, capable of almost oneshotting every single enemy you see with bullshit aim, poison arrow, called shot and concealment combo. However if you're not Skelebro they seem to be bretty squishy early to mid game.

However. Skirmisher is a bretty cheeky cunt capable of ignoring obstacle and enemies and hit someone at the back no prob. Plus they'll never ever run out of stamina and have higher resist than Archer. They also have more debuff that stack and proc more than Archer iirc.

Archer is by far the best class outside of Madness because you can dump 50k damage on anything before you see them. They also have more than enough durability to take hits on Insane so Skirm should really just be removed.

Did I fuck up?
I play a Yeek Solipsist and put points into the Solipsism talents as soon as they became available. Now I have 102 max hp on level 11 and everything hits me for half of my max hp.
Also no damage shields since I went anti-magic.

How do I get more survivability?

if you rolled a yeek solipsist (grand total of 1.5 life rating) and expected to have max hp you should be extremely disappointed

Yes, but it seems my class only has shields that absorb 50% of the incoming damage.
I mean archmages can have low hp and get away with their infinite bubbles.

Do I need to stack gear with +maxHP?

But I genuinely like tangledeep.

>Skirm should really just be removed.
I don't think they'll be removed. Most likely they'll be reworked just like Archer did. I agree that Archer is pretty strong though and Skirmisher needs a buff but their current version is not so bad, just downright inferior compared to Archer.

>went anti-magic
That would be your problem. If you're a super squishy damage shields aren't really optional.

Hi, original tangledeep poster here. I'm just doing it to bump threads.

on other boards I would anime post just to make newfags cringe to death or whatever their damage it, but i've learned alot just by lurking here and resent the idea that this general is worthless.

also the animeposters are on /jp/elona+, here is "ascii or go home"

Cool wanted "Abstract" skills. Kevin was shittalking him for that.

Anything new out lately?

tangledeep

Brb pirating it now. Also, what torrent software do you spergs use?

headless qbittorrent instance on a home server

>torrenting
>wanting to destroy your computer with dolphin porn &/or chink trojans

While we're on the subject has anyone pirated Dungeonmans here? Is it fun?

Yes.
No.

Are there roguelike streams anywhere? Not just watching a game like you could in DCSS servers but see the actual guy and interact with him in live like in Twitch. If I find nothing then I'm probably just going to do it myself over there, I want to have a comfy afternoon

You can "follow" games on twitch and if you check your following page 24/7 once in a blue moon you will catch someone play very old and obscure games like "Angband" or "NetHack".

i will be streaming Rogue in 2050+

Nice. Welp, maybe in a few hours I will grab a beer and play some DCSS there so that someone might come and laugh at me for not even knowing how to get past Lair with MiBe

>hanging out on angband.live because loser
>some xorn goofus is clearing the Forest because he didn't get the memo
>go to sign a BM treaty
>come back
>find this

>some xorn goofus is clearing the Forest because he didn't get the memo
What memo?

it's outrageously inefficient to visit since it's so wide open, there are so many hounds, and none of the animal-type monsters drop items - in one case, the guy also spent half an hour looking for an artifact on the floor (which turned out to be Thengel, of course)

>(which turned out to be Thengel, of course)
Poor bastard.

Why'd you need to spoiler that user? Are these autists bullying you? The game looks fun. I'll need to wait until it's out of early access though.

wait are you telling me that spoilers aren't surprise boxes?

They're how you whisper on the internet friendo

>working as intended

Funny thing, the name kevin is a meme in germany

What old version of stone soup is the best? I'm not really interested in the features of the more modern versions. The first version I've ever played was 0.16 so I'm leaning towards going back to that but I've heard a lot of good things about 0.15 and 0.14. I'm just not sure what to go with because I'm not sure what the differences are between those versions.

I refuse to believe this is sincere

I would like to say "play last version haha" but seeing how every version means they cut random content and features and add something with agrees with the philosophy of DCSS, the game becomes more boring each version. And I still haven't beated it because I suck at videogames

MuMo

play after 0.19 or you are mysoginst because you don't want female sigmund

did they seriously make sigmund a tranny what the actual fuck

dcss was never good but probably 0.14

Thankfully, they haven't gotten to Sigmund yet.
Grinder is a chick now, though.

0.15-16 is a good choice if you want a good balance between features and removals

0.10-12 is a good choice if you want "classic" crawl, before the removals really ramped up and the gameplay was streamlined

just remember that the earlier you go, the more crawl becomes a roguelike, and the later you go, the more it becomes a hack 'n' slash

Grinder's always been a bitch

Anything up until 0.15, 0.16, after that it just went downhill

mibe

nethack

to be honest i dont even remember, it's some kind of yuri 4koma that i stopped reading 2 chapters in because i didn't like most of the humor

thanks for all the advice
i guess i'll try a couple different versions to see what "fits" better
i'm looking for something about halfway between current DCSS and nethack in terms of complexity so .10 - .15 sounds pretty good
i could always try poschengband again but i don't really like the focus on grinding or the overworld, i just wanna be in a dungeon making the best of what is available to me without it being totally braindead