Drive-by-wire technologies have existed for steering and pedals for years now. How hard could it be to hook up an automatic to a fake clutch pedal and stick with a computer to run it all? The manufacturers finally get an excuse to drop the traditional manual gearbox in favor for a stronger modern automatic and manualfags get an engaging driving experience. It could even be put in a fully automatic mode for more mundane driving.
There is literally no reason not to do this.
>There is literally no reason not to do this.
Yes there is it's fucking stupid.
It's been done before, they're awful.
Saab's Sensonic comes to mind.
Also trucks have automated manuals.
>a traditional manual that can be switched to auto when you're stuck in traffic or something, but is fun to hoon on the open road
Sounds pretty good to me. Probably not explored as it would be expensive to make and fit, and there would likely be little demand for it. More equipment would also make the final car heavier.
>engaging driving experience
>Saab's Sensonic comes to mind.
Well things to consider is that Sensonic doesn't have a clutch pedal at all.
Secondly, it is based on '90s technology made by a small European firm that has since gone defunct. Drive by wire tech had sucked well into the following decade, but have since become the standard.
Would be unreliable too it is pretty complicated.
All new technology is generally unreliable.
Sensonic just had a computer control the clutch actuation. The stick still had a mechanical linkage to the gearbox itself. It also suffered from having Yuropoor electronics which would explain much of system's overall shittiness.
There are ton of these available in yuropoor.
they exist, so called smg by bmw
it is literally a manual transmission with fancy hydraulics which operate the gears and the clutch
you have pedals at the steering wheel and the shifter which lets you switch in the next higher or lower gear, no clutch pedal
takeoff is quite smooth when everything is in good shape, shifting feels like an eternity.
sequential paddle shifters are not what OP is talking about.
Why would you go through all the trouble of automising a transmission, and then put a weak, failing human link in it's operation?
>How hard could it be to hook up an automatic to a fake clutch pedal and stick with a computer to run it all?
Pretty damn hard. You can't do it a to a torque convertor auto, which leaves single and double clutch transmissions. Single clutch autos suck big fat donkey balls, and Porsche literally uses the same cogs and housings for their DCT's and manuals. If anyone could come up with a scheme to combine the two, it'd be them. They'd be rolling in money, because everybody would pay out of the ass for the next GT2 RS with auto-manual shifting.
>stronger modern automatic
Modern automatics are not strong. The only strong automatics are ancient TC units, the modern TC units are incredibly complicated to run 8+ gears, and DCT and SCT transmissions have appaling failure rates.
>SMG
Not a manual clutch operation, therefore, not a manual.
Also, single clutch, so sucks big fat donkey balls.
It's been done but without the clutch peddle. You just end up with all the disadvantages of both with little benefit
>Modern automatics are not strong.
The whole of the industry would disagree with you. Peter Quintus of BMW explains:
drive.com.au
Dual clutch was so shit BMW dropped it altogether, switching back to a zf good ol' classic torque converter + planetary gearset
ditto for maserati
>Trusting nu-bmw ever
It'd be weird not feeling the clutch bite if the computer was taking care of everything
Electronic steering and pedals are already bad enough, and you want to take away the stick shift too? Fucking kill yourself.
>unnessary complex
>slower than traditional manual
>more expensive than manual
What is the point?
>hi i drive automatic
fuck off kid
>Oldschool 3 speed th350 with manual/auto valve body and transbrake
>Leave in d for automatic shifting or start in first and ratchet shift it yourself
Kek ricers and Europoors blown the fuck out. American muscle been doing it for over 70 years
Anyone who would prefer to drive a manual hates the feel of drive by wire steering and pedals.
>>slower than traditional manual
Have you not driven a car built in the last 10 years?
Perhaps the pedal feel could be simulated.
You realize that pretty much every new sportscar no longer has a mechanical linkage from the pedals and steering wheel right? You'd be hard pressed to find a car in current production that still uses a steering shaft connecting the wheel to the pinion and direct mechanical cable or hydraulic lines that connect the pedals.
DCT was actually pretty cool when it came out. It's just that TC autos caught up with them that there's little point to still using a DCT anymore.
>There is literally no reason not to do this.
It would make manualfags feel less like special snowflakes which is the entire point of learning to drive a manual anymore.
Racecars use this
Electronic clutch, paddle shift - single clutch, dog ring gear engagement, similar to a bike transmission
There is no self-shifting mechanism present because it would be pointless.
Toyota also did a (shitty and slow) version of this on the ZZW30. Upshifts were gimped to preserve the babby synchros.
Yeah, except drive-by-wire throttles are shit.
Fuck you OP, let us have out manuals.
>except drive-by-wire throttles are shit.
Then keep your mechanical throttle. It literally has no bearing on having a fake clutch and stick shift.
The only good modern automatics that are also strong are the modern TC units. However, if you take one look at the gearing composition, you'll realise how complicated those valvebodies are, especially when you have to hook all of that up to a TCU.
Okay? And? Are you trying to make any kind of point?
Well to spell it out for you: Every journo has praised the driving dynamics of modern drive-by-wire sportscars at some point or another which makes your opinion of drive-by-wire sucking the minority.
>Actually unironically trusting publications
>In 2018
Wrong, what idiot told you that shit?
Name a sportscar built in the last few years that you personally enjoyed driving. I dare you.
Your unsupported denial of that objective fact is nothing but your neurotic tendencies manifesting themselves again.