H..hey guys I'm relatively new in this thread.. what is SJ?
Mason Perry
this is a bit of a stretch for you but Dirt to Daytona has a really good career mode
Isaac Morris
>AC costs $100 if you want all the content >Then slap in anywhere from $125 all the way up to $500+ for a wheel and its features >If you want VR, another $300 >But you gotta have a good graphics card to run these unoptimized piles of shit, so that's another few hundred
I'm not paying hundreds and hundreds of dollars to play one game. You don't buy a brand new PS4 Pro just to end up using it for Bloodborne and nothing else.
Dominic Jones
best /ovg/ poster
memes aside SJ is one of the better posters seeing as hes willing to discuss video games and only gets into the past shenanigans because people bring it up if a post is even vaguely similar to his
Lincoln Kelly
Shadow Jovernment
Sebastian Taylor
put a trip on SJ, literally nobody thinks that and to even try to selfpost shit like this makes you look even dumber.
Landon Collins
I AM SJ
Alexander Rivera
SJ was the best series organizer
Gavin Stewart
I mean if you buy a simulator like AC but only plan on playing it for 30 minutes at a time every 2-3 days, then yeah you could definitely argue that racing sims nickel & dime people just to get a somewhat satisfactory experience (and that's before you factor in individual driving skill). And I agree it's shitty that devs don't really make it obvious that you need a wheel for these games, instead reeling in the average punter under false pretenses. I'm with you there.
But anyone who does 5 minutes of research can see these games aren't built for casual play. They're really only created for hobbyists where this is their main "thing" they do after work. That's what I don't think you get. Sim racers aren't people who play NASCAR for an hour and then play FIFA for an hour and then play Battlefield for an hour. These are people that love car games and basically don't play anything else, and then once they get tired of driving they'll watch full IMSA races on YouTube and then jump back on the sim for more laps. And that's their entire Tuesday evening.
Before working for SMS I was on sims a minimum of 4 hours a day. Now it's more like 8 or 10. There was one morning I ran a 2hr30min endurance race, looked at the clock when I was done, and it was 1pm. Reported the bugs, jumped back in, did another one.
When you're playing one type of game THAT much, a $300 wheel is like, a purchase you don't even think about, you just do it. Same with other related purchases.
The people that get assmad over the cost or commitment just aren't into it enough. Which in that case I'd ask the obvious question of why you'd be trying to force yourself into such a niche subgenre in the first place when there are alternatives more suited to what you want (GT, Forza)
Ryder Mitchell
OVGWRC REMINDER
Since i decided to start making two events per week, current one will end at Sunday. From now on, there will be two events: monday-thursday mid-week one and friday-sunday weekend one. If there will be many people who finish only one of them, i'll switch back to one event per week.
i've only used my wheel for like 30 minutes in the last week but who gives a shit
Ian James
>SJ posting is the way to get james to post with trip secret lovers meme might be true
Xavier Hill
>Which in that case I'd ask the obvious question of why you'd be trying to force yourself into such a niche subgenre in the first place when there are alternatives more suited to what you want (GT, Forza) Is there a racing general just called "Forza" or "GT" general than just simply simracing? If you try and talk about cars on an arcade general you get told to go talk to the simracers while this is what happens when you try and talk to simracers that you're not enough of a hobbyist to enjoy the genre. There is no real place to go if you're into cars but don't breathe cars and you end up in a situation where it's either play arcade racers or spend hundreds of dollars on a niche subgenre.
Kevin Wright
sorry ive almost completely forgot about our little series tomorrow. ive been playing way too much Juiced lately.
also n800 guy wtf is up are we doing the thing or no?
Christian Torres
perhaps Veeky Forums as a place for severe autism isn't the place you should be looking for casual racing but idk
Alexander Martin
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Sebastian Martinez
James. What are your thoughts on NASCAR Heat 2. Is it worth it for a bit if offline fun at the price and how would you rate wheel support? I enjoyed the interview with NewWorld the other day, too.
Ryan James
>These are people that love car games and basically don't play anything else, and then once they get tired of driving they'll watch full IMSA races on YouTube and then jump back on the sim for more laps thats actually ironically autistic
Liam Walker
>yet again not understanding the difference between a simulator and a competitive game there are people who play nothing but CS:GO, and when they're done playing, they will watch streams and YouTube movies of CS:GO. doesn't that make CS:GO a simulator by your definition?
there are people who watch football all the time. then they will go and play FIFA or PES, and occasionally go outdoors to play real football, possibly even in an actual league. doesn't that make FIFA a simulator by your definition?
Wyatt Carter
Imagine if similar circumstances could be caused by different things?
Isaiah Barnes
elaborate
>inb4 bcuz sims are hard coar and fifa is dum and casual
Nolan Reyes
Posting in a James thread
Oliver Cook
People obsess over things. Some people obsess over simulators. That does not mean that everything anyone obsesses over is a simulator.
Kayden Hernandez
Naw, it's a good topic to discuss especially for lurkers who just come here for the occasional slice of info.
>Is there a racing general just called "Forza" or "GT" general than just simply simracing?
Reddit has r/GranTurismo & r/Forza which are both extremely active and not turbo autistic. r/GT puts me off because of all the photofags/liveryfags/memefags taking precedence over even the most casual of racing but this is basically what you're looking for.
A lot of people use autism as a synonym for passion. One of my best friends is the same way with hockey and the EA Sports NHL games. He'll drop everything to watch Devils' games on GameCenter Live, then pull all-nighters on EASHL. IIRC he's like the #4 goalie in the world at the moment for team play and people fight over him all the time for their LG squad.
He's the foreman of a landscaping company and if you met him on the job you'd never know he was that much of an autist on PSN. It's just passion. By the time you're in your mid 20's you have the patience to sit down and really invest all your time into something you really love.
Matthew Diaz
>"look at Dirt rally with insane amount of side force" What did (you) mean by this?
Also the aerodynamic force on the sides of the body (like when it's angled in midair). This was addressed in the last thread.
Hunter Russell
Heat 2 is actually really good both from a gameplay & physics standpoint, just sucks that NASCAR is in a major decline right now.
The Chevy SS was a failure in America. Dodge is out of the sport. NASCAR's most popular driver is an old man sporting an insurance company sponsorship. Rockingham is off the schedule, Bristol has been bastardized, & Kansas/Kentucky/Chicagoland are all the exact same track. The cars have too much downforce. Xfinity & Trucks are full of no-names. NASCAR is what's wrong with NASCAR Heat 2.
The interview with NewWorld was a lot of fun. He's a good guy. I was in talks with both Shaun Cole and Will Marsh to do something similar with them, but I think they got cold feet. NewWorld was just like "fuck yeah man let's do this."
You know how sprint cars have massive wings on top that basically catch the car when it's sideways so you can maintain stupid drift angles at high speeds? Codemasters artificially increased this value to make the cars slightly easier to drive. A guy on the Codemasters forum figured it out when he started hitting jumps at a certain angle and the car would curve like a baseball if you angled the side of it at a certain way.
Juan Sanders
that's my point though, it's not the player's dedication, obsession or drive for competitiveness that makes something either a simulator or arcade/casual game
simulators are still playable and enjoyable even without spending a very significant amount of time on them. some sims are even less enjoyable if you play them too often, like SHiT Rally with its repetitive stages
Nathan Cruz
>Codemasters artificially increased this value to make the cars slightly easier to drive. what a shame
Camden Bennett
So what you are saying is that the game supports a higher angle of a slide/dift because you specifically have too much grip in those situations, rather than just having the car slide off in the intended direction? Sorry but a brainlet like me is having a hard time pinpointing what exactly is off.
Camden Phillips
Thanks man. Will check it out now for sure. Hanging for some time to spend on a racing championship. Its a shame what NASCAR are doing. Management have their heads so far up their arse. Its the same with F1 and also our Supercars here in Aus. Its a joke.
It was a really good interview and I'm surprised Will didnt get you first, he seems like a good bloke.
Oliver Phillips
no i seriously mean that that level of repetition and singular focus is textbook autism the landscaping bit doesnt invalidate that
Caleb Robinson
Forza 7, GT Sport, or PCars 2, how do they rank in comparison to each other? I already have Assetto which is more realistic than all of them, but it feels too spartan and clinical. >physics >force feedback >car selection >graphics >tracks >career
Isaac Parker
>last guran autismo sex series >also the last series I'll play cause uni begins in 2 weeks
Luke Bennett
if you think something like that is autism then you're mentally retarded
Charles Torres
honestly I'd be playing DR RIGHT NOW if it was more realistic
Jordan Sullivan
k den
Jack Richardson
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Jayden Baker
how is this racing vidya related? It's fucking football, gb2/sp/ you dumb nigger
Justin Morgan
>racing games
no wonder james left these newfags truely are remarkable
Carson Clark
the relation to autos is purely superficial, you might as well be using foosball characters. Also, James is a bad measure as he has shitty arguments, opinions and he literally sold out to be Ian Bells secretary/shill
Charles Lewis
THIS IS A DRIVING GAMES GENERAL
***********READ**************** rocket league is a driving game
THUS
it is on topic
Ian Barnes
You drive in PUBG
PUBG is a driving game
Logan Allen
>the relation to autos is purely superficial, you might as well be using foosball characters. as someone with 1000 hours of rocket league, no, being cars very directly decides how the game plays with that said though it's not really fitting for this thread because the driving feel is pretty trash as far as car games go, it's just very good for what that game is trying to be
Henry Johnson
CS:GO has a Mercedes-Benz W123 in it
CS:GO is a driving game
Aiden White
Objective of the game is to put ball into the goal. It's football where the game mechanic is cars. You could replace said cars with anything and it wouldn't still be a game about driving, it's a game about football. Or some other normie sport where you chase a ball and put it into a goal.
David Bennett
yes PLAYERUNKNOWN'S BATTLEGROUNDS is a driving game and related to the auto games coalition general
Counter-Strike: Global Offensive you do not assume control of the motor vehicle thus not a driving game and not related to the auto games coalition
Cooper Barnes
oh hell yeah I've been waiting to post my sick driving webms. Can we do a pubg tournament? mumble vs discord?
Ian Lopez
>tfw you would unironically join in on a pubg racing tournament
Liam Powell
absolutely make a doc
Jack Parker
glad to know that having hobbies and interests is autistic
Eli Harris
Anyone remember this driving game gem? xD
Angel Thompson
is ASSetto corsa a driving game or racing game
Jaxon Rivera
two in bundle, hotlapping is driving game and racing is racing game unless you race against your time alone, then hotlapping becomes racing game too
Owen Phillips
so much value compared to a smelly poo (poocars2)
Joseph Long
no need to respond, it's obvious he has been influenced by Veeky Forums to quite an extent and is not worth the time
Ethan Campbell
dont worry i'm glad you can come even for a few races
Tyler Fisher
if all you do when you get home is simrace, watch racing then simrace then play rr3 on the bus to work and only can talk about racing you probably have a problem
Ryan Anderson
fuck off james
Ethan Clark
>So what you are saying is that the game supports a higher angle of a slide/drift because you specifically have too much grip in those situations, rather than just having the car slide off in the intended direction?
Yep. The faster and more aggressive you drive, the more stable your car is. Which is, uh, not how real life works.
>It was a really good interview and I'm surprised Will didnt get you first, he seems like a good bloke.
Will is one of the last genuinely good dudes left in sim racing, who runs his site not for money or ulterior motives but just because he loves talking about sim racing. I offered but I think he got cold feet. He's already had run-ins with various overlords behind the scenes and publicly aligning yourself with the most radioactive person in sim racing is a bad call, so I understand why he didn't go through.
I hope you understand the difference between having a passion for something and calling it autism on Veeky Forums for a giggle, versus actual autism.
I worked with an autistic guy who repeated the "you french fried when you should have pizza'd" line from south park 3-5x per day. That dude got fired in two months. Going home after work and pulling an all-nighter on EA NHL while taking breaks to watch the game isn't autism.
Jordan Ortiz
>Going home after work and pulling an all-nighter on EA NHL while taking breaks to watch the game isn't autism debatable
Dominic White
haha epic lets see your response to THIS ONE James hahahah
Gavin Butler
his friend might be autistic but youre just a faggot
Hunter Cruz
Buddy plays LG which is like iRacing for EA Sports NHL.
No, some people just want to play hockey vidya with others who actually know proper tactics and aren't puckhogs. Plus it gives some goal to achieve instead of just mindlessly filling an XP bar over and over again in public matches.
Connor Cox
fuck off
Jose Jackson
Name a better game
Connor Torres
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Cameron Rogers
who here /carbuilding/?
Samuel Moore
Going to get my first racing wheel.
Some mom nearby is selling a Logitech Driving Force GT for $20
Is it a good deal? I'm already planning on using a sustain pedal I have as a poor man's clutch since it only has 2 pedals
Camden Martinez
>Some mom nearby is selling a Logitech Driving Force GT for $20 rip former poster. that wheel now has ghost ffb
Hudson Collins
yes, it's a good deal. you don't need clutch, use semi auto until you get g27 or something
Zachary Butler
A bunch of IRacing pros still use the DFGT
Nolan Martinez
Wouldnt it be better to go for a g29?
I'm not seeing g27 for much cheaper
Levi Jenkins
When it's time to upgrade get a Thrustmaster
Belt drive > gears
DFGT for $20 is a steal though
Tyler Gonzalez
doesn't matter. g27, g29, g920, whatever else, it's all same shit
Jonathan Fisher
You shut the fuck up too and fuck off to your hso simdads
Brayden Torres
>joined the rally league >mfw shittiest of shitters o well hopefully i git gud someday and start having fun
Jackson Russell
>buy AC from reseller/on sale for cheap >use DLC unlocker to get everything for free >dont buy VR wow that was difficult
Owen Jones
>no wonder james left last time i checked he's still here
Ethan Reed
try having fun as a shitter
Joseph Bell
>i can't have fun unless i'm winning kek
Oliver Myers
i try i really try i hadnt played for like 2 months though so thats my excuse im enjoying rallying again after playing for a couple days and getting up to speed
Jose Nguyen
Thats the same issue those games have. They are neither sim nor arcade so they dont really belong in either general.
Noah Butler
Keep doing a good job buddy!
Henry Thompson
James covered Rocket League once when PRC was a thing.
Chase Jackson
>Fanatec fucks up >I get the QRA I hadn't got around to adding to my order for free >I'll keep using the Formula rim I was going to sell alongside my BMW one til April; I'm away with work a lot and on holidays between now and then anyway
Fucking score.
Lucas Clark
>try SHiT Rally >the cars have no weight at all and he driver's hands don't follow yours Why do people play this shit?
Evan Morris
>Yep. The faster and more aggressive you drive, the more stable your car is. Which is, uh, not how real life works. Okay but why do you use the term "too much side force" isn't that the force that pushes your car to the side? How does that exactly give more grip?
Also is Richard Burns Rally the only game that has good physics?
Noah Thompson
Why the fuck would someone bother making a webm of such an average play?
Lucas Campbell
/ovg/ Rocket League when?
Nolan Sanchez
nice webm my friend, mind if i save it?
Camden Russell
Because they haven't been rally2kpilled
Bentley Young
>and he driver's hands don't follow yours ?
Nicholas Brooks
Brainlet.
Jackson King
he's a pad user don't worry
Austin Stewart
I never played SHiT Rally, but someone else had posted an issue with in-game wheel not aligning to the controller's one. And so, now i'm shitposting about that because this is the only way for me to have fun.
I attach modern internet meme image to the following statement, hopefully it will make it easier for you to understand my condition.
Jack Garcia
Meanwhile I'm here being sad because Australia cucked me out of the last few races ;-;