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Do you trust your local hand car wash?

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No.
I either wash the car myself or go to a self service car wash.

I'm lazy as fuck, and I never understood going to the "hand car wash." I live near one, but still by the time you drive there, wait, and drive back - you would be done by yourself for cheaper. I even have my sister washing her own car now for this reason. It's a pointless exercise.

I understand it if you are old or have some health problems or something, but, you literally pay more and it takes longer.

Wow you make me feel really dumb for not noticing how much of a pointless exercise that is. You have a lot wisdom senpai.

I think it takes me longer to do it myself because then I start getting caught up in it and going into much more detail than they would at one of those places.

Well then the extra time you spend is bonus where your car is cleaner. I have it down to a science, this thing really sped it up too: griotsgarage.com/product/foaming sprayer.do?sortby=ourPicks&refType=&from=fn

Found a place that i trust that's not too far away but haven't asked them to wax it yet. Fukken stressful regardless

To wash my 4cyl Mustang rental? Yes.

I wouldn't let some filthy shitskin put his hands on my car.

Wow really?

You’re such a dumb ass

trusting third-world street shitting animals with my car? no thanks

Nope. I don't even waste my money going to carwashes. I just wash my car in the comfort of my driveway.

t. nig

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I just use the $6-10 drive thru one with the guy at the end who does a quick hand dry. Usually $2 extra for wheel rim wipe and tire shine

Hand washing your own late model car is for retired boomers and unemployed niggers

Time is money and being seen doing peasant tier manual labor isn’t a good look

Stole interior trim off my car. Good thing I noticed before I drove off. I knew they did it because one of the beaners working really wanted to buy my car during my previous visit. He knew what I came back for and immediately gave it back.

>tfw the clear coat on your car's hood is dead but you still wash it anyways because you enjoy doing it.

Also, why not just spray it with the hose at the car wash?

I’ve had my drivers licence stolen and pretty sure my watch was stolen by those subhumans as well. Thing is I look the same as them so I don’t know if that makes them even more jealous. I always ask for just an outside wash and
make sure not to stare at them while they’re working so as to not piss them off. And I still get this shit

Would a pressure washer be a good investment?

Yes

>do you like scratches in your paint
lol are you dumb or just yuropoorean OP?

I would only do so to wax my car. Such a tedious exercise.

Scratches in your paint will arise from never washing your car also. Some of use have time and space constraints.
Then there’s an advantage about finding a place with people who are cool and won’t fuck with your shit

Wut
The advice I get is go to a car wash
If you must but wax it yourself. I must say these places never do a good job of waxing and only do one thin layer

Touchless pressure washer master race.

Fuck your drought Commiefornia.

Fucking this. Stop being poor for fuck's sake.

Yes. I usually toss them a few extra bucks to change my oil as well.

>Do you trust your local hand car wash?
No.

My educated opinion is I've seen them at work. Several different times I've parked nearby and watched them detail cars. Terrible. The same firm rubbing action with their cleaning tools from top to bottom. The same rubbing tool is used on the sides of the car as on the hood and roof. Scratches aren't seen because the quick wax job hides it.

As for prices, the cheapest hand wash job is $20 cash at BJ's. It's a truck and trailer that pulls up next to a gas station. They get water and power from the gas station. They do use an electrically powered pressure sprayer that first blasts the dust and bugs off the car. Then they use it to spray suds all over and turn it off. At that point, two people get around the car to rub the subs around. Then the thing is hosed off. It then gets a quick rub down by microfiber towels to dry it off. There is a wringer for the towels so they keep on reusing the same towel to dry the car.

>I never understood going to the "hand car wash."
If you live in an apartment, most of them don't allow washing in their lot. So you either have to use one of those automated car washes with spinning fabric brushes, the hand wash, or the self-service car washes (if any exist in your area). Self-serve washes are pretty rare now. New ones are never built and old ones get bought out because their land is valuable and the amount of revenue a self-service wash earns per square foot is pretty small.

I don't think my local self-serve will be around in several years. That's because it's earned revenue cannot justify its opportunity costs. For example, property taxes are going up roughly 30% in 2018 in order to support minority education problems in our school systems. Activists managed to get my local elementary school to add a 2.8 million dollar educational annex just for struggling minority children. Also covered are various increased costs from multiple homeless issues.

there isnt one but i wouldn't anyway, i'm autistic as fuck about washing my car and use a foam cannon, two bucket method and dry with microfibre.

No its like 15 Hungarian guys rubbing up against your car

No.

> Frogposter posting frogposter opinions
Kill yourself.

I only pay certified mechanics to wash my machine.

>apartment living
>land value too high and overtaxed to allow basic amenities to profitably operate.

Educated city people voted for Hillary, rural retards voted for drumph.

>If you live in an apartment, most of them don't allow washing in their lot
So don't fucking live there.

>Do you trust your local hand car wash?
The real question is who needs to use a local hand car wash. I don't.

I wax the car after a full detailed wash. That means the wash has to be done in my driveway. Washing the car elsewhere means driving the car back home. That coats thhe car with dirt, grit, and grime which has to be removed with detailer spray before I can wax it.

>ran out of bread
>then eat cake instead

>>ran out of bread
>>then eat cake instead
Can't afford to live in a proper house in the shitty? Don't live in the city. Get a job elsewhere, where house prices are lower. If more people were sensible like that, businesses would leave the inner cities and let them get back to being ghettos.

Subarus have shit paint so no. Those dirty brushes will scratch it.

Being trailer trash is pretty comfy.

Stay up until 2 am blasting shitty dad rock and working on your numerous shitboxes on Cinder blocks with not a single person to give a fuck ,all while living 10 minutes from a city

And you can choose to wash your car or not. Freedom!

>Get a job elsewhere
It's a career job in Seattle so I am unwilling to change employers. That would be incredibly stupid to do as this is one of the best corporate employers to work for in the USA.

I tend to wipe clean the exterior sides of windows a lot.

>No its like 15 Hungarian guys rubbing up against your car
Whenever I come back to the car, I always walk around it and check not for door dings, but to see if the windows have big greasy marks on them. That way, I know if someone has been trying to peer inside through the tinted glass. I have legal tint, but it still makes it hard for them to see inside unless they lean close and block the window. There's just too many people walking through the lots these days checking out any new nice-looking cars that park.

Why did you choose to work and live in a city that was so anti-car?

>Why did you choose to work and live in a city that was so anti-car?
Just one of the Amazon IT nerd boys.

Seattle wasn't originally anti-car, but the extremist liberals have taken over. As a result, a lot of people keep quiet because a lot of extremists stopped debating issues. Instead, the extremists target those who are effective or eloquent at getting their opposition message across. By finding ways to shut them up, the extremists "win" at getting their message across. As a result, pro-car people shut up and eventually became replaced in the city council or no longer spoke up at public meetings.

Mass transit sucks. I don't mean the main and useful heavily used commuter bus routes. But I wish many of the other routes going on at all hours of the day would just stop. They are almost always empty of passengers and billions of dollars are wasted each year. On top of that, many of those using those routes are homeless or criminals commuting from their slums and cribs to their crime target areas. So what makes the bus system really suck is that it has enabled a huge amount of crime as seen in heat maps around bus stop areas.

>Stop being poor
>Spend your money instead of saving and no longer be poor
Kind of counterintuitive, faggot

source video?

>Do you trust your local hand car wash?
If it is low cost, then they take short cuts. Since I can't afford the high-end ones, I basically don't use them. The dealer offers car detailing services but I saw how they wash and dry cars, so no thank you, the dealer detailing team damages cars and then uses wax to hide the new scratches they add. After all, they know the car owner can't prove the scratches were added by them. Those dealer staff used a bucket of soapy water and used the same mitt all over the car including the sides and fender. It wasn't all top, then all sides, then all lowers. It was like up and down with rubbing the suds from the top of the doors down to the bottom of the doors. Whatever was easiest and fastest to do rather than what was more careful and diligent. I saw the drying rag dragging on the ground and the guy continued to wipe the car and used a roller wringer to squeeze out the water in the cloth before using it again to rub the car dry. It was not rinsed of the dirt it picked up from the ground.

Hand car washes and automatic car washes everyone knows kills your clearcoat and can dent your vehicle. That’s what I tell everyone anyways to sell them my services.
Mobile carwasher and detailer here, ama

What leather conditioner would you recommend for perforated leather seats? The ones I've used all seem a bit greasy and get stuck in the perforations.

What about touchless washes followed by clay bar/hand waxing?

How do you clean alcantara?

Typically I use lexol conditioner after cleaning them thoroughly with LVP cleaner from 3D
I don’t use touch less washing, I start with the two buckets, foambath, then a gentle scrub with my RV scrub brush.

Also I know nobody asked but I’m the only white person in my city of 400,000 that does this. The rest are Mexicans that charge incredibly low and destroy paint.

Claybarring is good as well if you charge enough for it and have the time. Also I’m not sure what your alcantra question means

Do you make good money? Seems like material costs would be pretty low, so it's mostly time/labor.

Material costs are actually pretty high for me considering equipment. I run a professional rig with about $1,600 in machinery alone (generator, pressure washer), not counting my truck and trailer. Other than that about $50 a week on chemicals from 3D/chemical guys I come away with a net earnings of roughly $1,000 a week. So I make pretty good money. It pays being one of the few actual professionals in town that cares about cars and isn’t just in it for the money. I was never racist before I got into the business but now I really can’t stand Mexicans/pajeets.

So fight back, let your engine do the screaming. Straight pipe a hemi, fuck the rules.

Touchless washing and distilled water rinse is the best information I've ever found on washing cars.
It's literally saved me hours of my life and I enjoy the weekly washing now.

This. $1.66 and five minutes at local DIY wash.

>Touchless washing
That doesn't get rid of that sticky gray film that sticks to the sides of the car. Soap foam doesn't float it off either. I always have to resort to touching it with a mitt to get it off.

How do you fucks live without a garage/driveway? I assume thats the reason you have to use car washes because thatd be the only reason id ever use one.

>educated city people
The Democrat voting ghettoes are educated?

Cheap pressure washers are heart break material. Do you want it to work more than 20 times? Don't cheap out.

>Cheap pressure washers are heart break material
>Do you want it to work more than 20 times?
How long does the $79 pressure washer from Harbor Freight last before the compressor springs a leak or its valves give out?

>How do you fucks live without a garage/driveway?
Having a driveway doesn't mean you can wash the car there. Some homeowner associations don't allow car wash pollution runoff. Such rules are not necessarily the HOA fault but the developers being cheapskates.

Some land developers, in order to supersize the amount of land allotted for housing versus greenery, runoff control, and pollution allotment per the PUD, make concessions to city and county authorities in order to obtain the variance. Those concessions are then passed on to the individual homeowners through a covenant on their deed. That covenant is then implemented through the HOA.

That is how my HOA is. Originally, the land was for greenbelt use only. But developers funded by a group of lawyers and doctors in their real estate development corporation convinced the city and county that the greenbelt land could be converted into a housing community if the PUD contained certain restrictions such as no chemical fertilizer use, no car wash runoff, no herbicides, etc. So those restrictions are currently managed by the HOA although violations (or complaints the HOA is not enforcing the PUD rules) can still be reported to the land use department at the city too. Thus, no car washes even in my driveway.

It's not the fault of the HOA. It is the land developer's fault.

Buy a bunch of phenol and pour that shit down the drain in defiance.

>property taxes are going up roughly 30% in 2018 in order to support minority education problems in our school systems
sounds like you live in a cancerous liberal state

>pour that shit down the drain in defiance.
No, if infrastructure damage was the way to defy them, pouring hydraulic setting concrete down various sewar grate openings would be the approach. That should be done in a few lowland areas where sewars are still constricted tubes and not large double-wide corridors. Then the next big rain will cause a flood as the water doesn't drain fast enough. Be sure to sprinkle in some welded U-shaped rebar shapes to reinforce that concrete against being chipped away.

>he ones I've used all seem a bit greasy and get stuck in the perforations.
You can also follow with a wipe from a microfiber cloth to remove the last traces of oiliness.

I have a detail guy that comes in a van and thoroughly cleans my cars once a week for $60 a pop.

>Do you trust your local hand car wash?
Nope. Always wear a condom.

just get the top rated one on amazon. Mine's worked great for 4 seasons

fpbp

I don't let mexicans near my vehicle

jesus nigga you spend over $3k a year on car cleaning?

Touchless automatic once a week after I spray my rims rims.andand fenders down good

I pay $30 a month for unlimited access to the automatic car wash.

It's quick and fast and there's rarely ever a line the times I go.

Yeah it's pretty pricey but $30 is the cost to go thru the automatic tunnel 4 times. I can go an unlimited amount of times.

This

I started out hand washing because my buddy is a Jeep fanboy who taught me how too much soap damages the paint, water spots, etc.

But then I found out the local drive thru car wash is where the several dealerships nearby take the vehicles on their lot to be cleaned. I just do the drive thru once a month, or whenever it's dirty or covered in road salt. Just one less thing to worry about.

Retard alerts

thanks for being part of the problem ruining seattle

I'd like my car to look brand new inside and out every day - I'm not validating sloppiness. But that's time consuming and expensive.

>thanks for being part of the problem ruining seattle
If not for Jeff, Bill, and Paul, you liberals wouldn't be able to afford all those costly services you give to the poor and homeless. The employees of their companies buy products, services, and also dump their paychecks into the local economy. And you desperately need that money to pay for all your expensive socialist projects.

In order to have tax revenue, your city and King County has been raising property valuations year after year. It's a dirty trick that has finally backfired. Higher property evals caused the apartments to all raise their rates. It's not just demand that caused rates to go up.

When it is impossible to pass higher tax rate laws, the trick is to value the properties higher so that the existing tax rate generates more revenue. They set the minimum values of properties higher and higher. But you cucks keep on creating new and more expensive homeless services to the point that homeless from all across the nation now migrate to Seattle to grab a piece of the free pie. You are known as Freeattle. Even the police are severely hampered in prosecuting existing legal laws which other parts of the country have no problem enforcing.

So before you blame the problem of high rental rates and high home costs, blame the property evaluations of the past 20 years that caused the vicious circle. The need to fund all those excessive free socialist projects created a hunger for tax revenue that pushed property valuations up. That in turn forced rental rates to increase.

>Self-serve washes are pretty rare now
What for real? There are a shit ton in Australia with half of them having a kebab joint on the same lot and they are the #1 boyricer meet up spot.

That guy was saying the people who used the automatic car washes were retards. He wasn't saying that people who liked clean cars were retards.

>I started out hand washing because my buddy is a Jeep fanboy who taught me how too much soap damages the paint

But while strong soaps pull out the aliphatic compounds in paint, if you use a liquid wax after you wash, that sort of restores some of the lubricating oils that keep the paint slightly flexible and resistant to chipping and cracking.

I work at a dealership and we use a hand washing place right down the street to detail all our trades. We use in-house prep department to "detail" sold cars but the place down the street really does a much better job than Hector, Pedro, and Jose here on the lot with soap buckets and regular towels.

>Do you trust your local hand car wash?
You should discreetly park. Then watch them do their work on several cars. Is it just one masterful person? Or is that business training newbies to work on cars too? If so, then you might have careless (lol attitude) newbies who only want a temporary job until they move on.

>local hand car wash?
OP, how much does your charge?

Pay $30 to go to a more professional place to wash my car. It’s not perfect but it’s better than automatic which you should avoid like a plague. They will scratch your car so stay away.

I pay anywhere from $6 to $10 for a self wash place. I pull into the bay, swipe my credit card, and use their wand and brush to wash my car. I'm charged for the time spent and it's usually under $9.

Unfortunately it's the only self wash place anywhere around me, so it's always packed. 95% of car washes around here are either hand wash places that take like an hour or an automatic car wash attached to a gas station.

>Do you trust your local hand car wash?
yes

no

No, my washing is free and not compromised by quantity over quality.
Self service washes are a rip off and drive thru washes are scummy as fuck.

My only option is automatic/drive-thru...no self-wash within 30 minutes of my apartment and not allowed to wash it there.

I'm more of a DIY guy. All of the self-serve places in my country take like 30 seconds to purge the line of whatever you were using last, so for every $10 you spend there, $5 is literally sitting there waiting for the next step to come through.

Took my brand new Fiat 500 Abarth to one next door and the guys started revving my engine.
I went to one down the road and they dented the C pillar (After 2 weeks of bugging them they paid to have it fixed.)

Things like this is why I wouldn't trust them with my new Jag. I'll hand wash it my self and enjoy it also.

No. No. No.

There is a large roadside hand car wash on the busiest road in town. It's all teenage nogs and hispanic girls. They each have one microfiber cloth and God knows how many times it hit the ground.

I was sitting outside at the restaurant next door watching these degenerates "wash" cars. The nogs all wear nog pants and lean all over the paint. Worst part is 99% of their clientele are BMW/Lexus owners that don't understand how things work.

Yea man it sucks, the Abarth is no jag, but people always take pictures of my car. I am trying to keep it as clean as possible