/parag/ - Paragon General

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I fucking hate this game.

where the fuck is drongo, it's been a month and some change since zinx.

Iggy rework took the place of new hero for 42's launch. They announced it ahead of time.

Anyway: Howitzer's master skin a shit. That is all.

...

i feel like they are getting tired of making this game and are just gonna go for a big cash grab. like the devs comments on balance read like bad jokes at this point, and they clearly don't care about their playerbase.

JLeo was salvaging his reputation after the Kwang play last tourney, but holy shit.

So the Borderlands dude is the next hero, but I want more fantasy shit after him. Give us a ghost samurai or a dude with a lightsaber. Give us a dragon person. Give us personality.

That looks fun, I wish I was playing that game.

>one week left of summer
>only one summer themed skin for twinblast
>no summer beach fun skins for any of the girls
feels bad lads. maybe next year

Paragon: Extreme Beach Volleyball coming Summer 2018!

Since new dawn I have an issue where if I'm killed while running, I can never go full speed again for the entirety of the rest of the match. I'm permanently just stuck running as though I was just rapid-mashing my W key. anyone know what could cause this?

I want a ninja. An actual, Ryu Hayabusa ninja. Not that abomination that is Kallari.

>literal master league players who were just at epic HQ say countess and iggy are completely broken
>but muh winrates

bump

3-5 months internal testing, who cares what professional players bending the rules and pushing to extreme know, we're the devs we know better we made the game we aren't wrong ANALYTICS > EVERYTHING !

you dare question numbers? they don't like even though the system probably doesn't take into account the reason there's a 50% win rate is because both teams have the same hero and one of them has to win.

I think agora.gg discounts mirrors, but yeah: the metrics are dumb and Epic are dumber.

I'd like to see pickrates on those heroes because is right. I can't imagine iggy, countess, and kallari (let's ignore wukong because I literally, out of the 50 some games I've played since new dawn, have not seen a single game without one)being anywhere below 85% pick rate.

I think it would be cool if your normal attack was always a consistent speed but at different breakpoints you'd get another shadow/illusion that attacks right after you for a double/triple hit.
What about the dumb ninja kite or an izuna drop?

They probably think people are so stupid to believe that only winrates are a balance issue. In HotS even though Genji had a 35-45% winrate he just got a bunch of nerfs because he also had almost 100% pick/ban rate in competitive games. Just because people could beat him and some people played him poorly it doesn't mean that he wasn't the safest and most effective character in the game.

>iggy getting nerfed
>countess isn't
Really makes me think

If you're playing Sev, get Thunder cleaver asap. You will start getting those stacks so fast.

no you fucking won't.
>get thunder cleaver
>try to lower one mob down to siphon health
>it's down
>other mobs are just out of siphon range
>hit one then the other, they both die
>siphon them twice, takes tons of MP
sev is just fucked.

epic's data accounts for mirrors, the problem is that it doesn't account for the actual skill level. like revenant for example they said even in non mirrors his winrate was barely over 50% but then they acknowledged that if you account for non mirror winrate within the top 1% of players it was something astronomical like 78%.
they think its ok for countess to have a 450dmg dark tide at level 6 because danny dumbfuck in bronze is 0-9 playing her

I called this shit. I work with Epic because they're publishing my game and mentioned that Iggy, Countess, and Kallari are broken.

... Does Gideon really have a hole in his hand?

>countess porn getting popular and epic makes her broken
>aurora gets a new fanservice skin and cam says on the CC she's getting buffs soon
epic isn't dumb overwatch taught game devs how far a good waifu roster can take your game. expect to see serath buffs soon

hi intern glad you finally decided to post. thanks for sneaking in some /parag/ related content into the game over the past few months

He has teleportals in his hands to summon the meteorites.

how much longer until we get leaks on Hydro?

Fuck if I know about him having holes in them but one of the skins - his master I think - references implants going deeper or some shit.

>because danny dumbfuck in bronze is 0-9 playing her
kek

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Ring a ding ding I wanna make Sparrow sing.

that thotty looking dekker is doing things to me

Is Dekker some kind of asian?

What is Countess doing here
Is this an anime

is that not obvious?

If it was I wouldn't be asking fuckboy.

Not the guy(s) you're replying to but I'm gonna go with 'Yes'.

are you retarded friend?

its from a link someone posted in the last thread. i think on the steam site somewhere if you want to find it. its a model someone made.

Save that sass for your playstation IMs

which girls have innies and which have beef curtains?

so ded

Aurora and Serath got that deli meat no doubt.

I never really messed with Revenant before v42 but I could have sworn the higher your attack speed was the faster his reload was supposed to be. I ask since I fucked about with him some in a bot game and the reload didn't seem to have much of a difference even at 25 Agility or earlier when activating Overclocked Droid.

>pick Cybernetic Spider-Man
>stuck in the right lane with Elsa
>Bloodrayne takes mid, spends half the match whining about my choice and tells me I should have picked McReaper or Dante from Devil May Cry™
>I finish 5-0-6 with 182 minion kills
>he finishes 2-8-0 with 160 minion kills

that is how it's supposed to be. Seems like they just didn't fuck with it at all though. As such I play rev in offlane as an ability caster and he works pretty damn swell.

>Wanting immersion breaking silly skins

This is why we have Rampage in a tank top and frat boy Twinblast and not cool skins.

>immersion
This is a game that has a random soldier dude fighting against a literal demigod.

Rev I can understand but why didn't you pick Twin?

>Not believing in the god-slaying power of operating

shiggy

Because I picked second (Countess picked fourth), and the only person who had their slot reserved was Le Monkey Face in the off lane.

Her name is literally "Harue Dekker"

HARUE

>innie
sparrow mori serath kallari
>outie
fey countess aurora dekker yin
>the full roast
phase gadget shinbi belica

How many devs are good at their own game compared to the top 25% of players?

in mobas? 0

>implying shinbi didn't sign a virginity and hymen check contract
c'mon son.
Very few. Usually devs think solely in the way that they intend the game to play, and as such fail to see glaring exploits or broken things in the game. Like, you know, kallari and wukong. Or to put it in another example, wavedashing in melee, or perhaps the jungle machete in let it die, or if you're so inclined, testbug in simgirl.

>implying shinbi didn't sign a virginity and hymen check contract
>c'mon son.
that's not how vaginas work

based john romero used to hold doom deathmatch tourneys just so he could shit on people at his own game

ded

what game niggy?

can he transport his dick into someones pussy?

He can transport his dick to the cold depths of outer space, I guess.

That's how he fathered Iggy.

you don't known idols senpai

>you don't known idols senpai
you can have a outie and still be a virgin

WHAT
who are all of these people
cybernetic spider man is ???
elsa is aurora
bloodrayne is countess
mcreaper is revenant
dante from devil may cry is twin blast?

not on Veeky Forums

wraith is cyber. I'm not sure about Dante, guessing he meant Kwang

are they really stupid?

bedtime bump

Do you think Paragon has the space for creative hero design?

yes but i don't think the dev team is necessarily capable
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everytime i win while playing as wukong i get the same feeling i get after i cum and then realize what i jerked too

I think the characters we have now are so bland that an actually interesting hero would just break the game.

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Wukong is my main, and the character that got me back into the game after I took a break (after Kwang came out), so I'm fine with him being broken. The only problem I have is this: if I feel like playing as someone else, and someone on the enemy team picks him yet nobody on my team does, I HAVE to or else we're severely disadvantaged. Again, he's my main and I'm really good with him so it doesn't bother me too much, but every once in awhile I feel like playing someone else (usually either Kwang or a caster) and it sucks when I have to roll Wukong.

Oh my FUck even with full build whenever I play carry I just tickle the other team by the time I come online. Every single build. Give me your ranged carry builds please.

Alright, so I found a list of the most interesting heroes floating around. I wonder if Paragon could come up with a dude that's even half as interesting. The cut off characters are:
2) Invoker - combines 3 elements in different orders to create up to 10 unique abilities. Each one is powerful and you can fire them off pretty quickly if you have fast fingers.

3) Abathur- super weak slug that can set invisible landmines and spawn units every once in a while. He can become immobile to infest any allied unit on the map and cast a new set of abilities from their location. Ultimate ability makes a clone of a character on your team with 20% better stats for 20 seconds.

4) Orianna's skills place a ball on the field and reposition it or call it back to her. Her abilities are cast from the ball and you have to be careful you position it to fend off enemies without leaving yourself open.

6) Rubick - his ultimate ability steals the last ability an enemy casts lasting until he dies or for several minutes. Including ultimate abilities and silly things like Syllabear's permanent summon that counts as a hero and has its own inventory of items.

7) Chen - tames up to 4 jungle monsters which all have their own passive and active abilities. You have to effectively play all 5 characters to their strengths if you want to match up to the other heroes.

10)Techies - Character lays down invisible proximity mines that hit like a truck or stun you for like 5 seconds. If you have vision each one gives you a bunch of gold but he also has a minefield sign that makes them undetectable and you never know if mines are actually there or not.

>Techies
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there is no build. 25 agility, put on cards that up your damage. its that simple, and if that doesn't work figure something else out. positioning is pretty much the only skill left for carries at this point.
you CAN put on that damage becomes shield card wukong uses and get a bit more survivability.
i like to use that one that makes you do 300% damage, but its not as good as the crit card BUT i like doing it on murdock so i can delete people from afar with his long range passive. would be useful to poke in lane if the "laning phase" of this game lasted more than 3 minutes before it becomes monkey wars + murderball around the map. not saying its a good idea just saying its what i do.

HOTS has some interesting designs, chogall is interesting in concept but really it's just an overpowered guy who takes up 2 slots. It's not much different than Gundam Vs or any other game where you can have a more powerful character but you lose more resources if you die.

>auto shield
>armored
>sacred alchemy
>Mallenk's Tribute

WHO THE FUCK THOUGH THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA WITH NO FUCKING COUNTERS?

The card system in general feels like it has a lot of problems and is probably part of why the characters feel so bland.

They probably put him on the list because two people in one character is 100% unique. Other characters like Mina or Empath play similarly but then they can split any time they want while Cho'gall is permanently one less body on the map to contest objectives and soak exp. I agree he really isn't very interesting to play compared to other characters.

Holy fuck dude, I just found out today that this game has an auto-shield and a spell-shield and it makes me so mad because I don't have either of them. I don't even have lifesteal or sacred alchemy but I have 1000 copies of some cards.

>Every time I hold my breath and go to Reddit for news
i hate that i have to go here to get news on this game

is there an easy way to know what cards you're missing? all of mine are like 23/24 or whatever. i'm level 39 or 40.

He probably fits on a top 10-15 but it looks like they put him at #1 which is weird. Smite has a bunch that should probably be there, though the game overall is kind of mediocre there's a ton of interesting designs. Like Ne Zha you have to play a rhythm game for one of his abilities.

there was a card from every affinity removed after the PTR because they were even more broken than the ones we got. everyone has 23/24 so you already have them all.

What are some good non-Godmother Kwang builds?

the "get to level 25" build.

I was never big into Smite but way back when I played it wasn't very complex. Maybe they've changed it since.
The skill that left the most impact on me was WuKong's 72 transformations. It's the only skill in the entire game that makes use of the over the shoulder camera. If you target close to you you become and ox that's immune to CC and knocks people out of the way. A medium distance transforms you into a cheetah that runs faster and has a stunning rend attack when you make contact with an enemy. Then if you aim a long ways away from you you become an eagle that moves super quickly but can't turn very well.

sacalc+mallenks tribute
vamp blade+damage

Smite isn't very complex at it's core but I would rate the hero design above average for the genre

goodnight /parag/

Oh sorry, I meant to say that Ne Zha's ultimate wasn't very complex. What made him difficult was having 2 skillshots that were absolutely paper thin and an ultimate that just didn't work 50% of the time.
I liked the idea behind the aligator guy but he was unplayable back when I tried it out. Serqet is like a way more fun version of the countess though. Same ult but with the awesome zigzag dash and jumping over walls and shit.

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ok but actually growth and death say 23 of 23, and the rest say 22 of 23.

i hate narbash (actually i love narbash, i hate playing him though) but i have like every narbash skin. why is life like this?