What went wrong?

That's pigfat as fuck for a FWD. The 86 weighs less and it's RWD with a boat anchor of an engine.

>thats pigfat

you're fucking retarded, the brz is 2780 pounds and the civic si is 2850 its literally nothing.

Go be fucking retarded somewhere else

Are you legitimately retarded?

>the drive train determines the weight
>I'm an expert on every car I've never driven.
>hurr pig fat
>literally one of the lightest FF cars in its class.
>can't name a faster, lighter FF car

It's not a bad car
However the only complaint I have is that they replaced VTEC engines with a turbo engine. You cant get an Si or a hatchback model with VTEC engine. Only the Type R gets the vtec but with a turbo

and yet the brz is slower

rwd's are almost always heavier than fwd's. You bought/praise a pigfat fwd grocery getter. Deal with it. Fucking nerds.

Yeah but you can drift and you actually have some tuning potential instead of dumping money into a worthless drivetrain setup.

>makes obtuse untrue generalizations
>its pigfat because I said so.
>you can drift
FF cars can drift too

youtube.com/watch?v=CwykUV9bed0

the ability to drift actually has nothing to do with the drive train

>the ability to drift actually has nothing to do with the drive train

That's why there's so many fwd's at drift competitions right? That's not drifting sweetie. I don't care if you can drift a fwd in your video games.

It doesn't matter, Drifting is a driving technique where the driver intentionally oversteers, with loss of traction in the rear wheels or all tires, while maintaining control and driving the car through the entirety of a corner. Car drifting is caused when the rear slip angle is greater than the front slip angle, to such an extent that often the front wheels are pointing in the opposite direction to the turn (e.g. car is turning left, wheels are pointed right or vice versa, also known as opposite lock or counter-steering).

>inb4 its not drifting because I said so, that video doesn't count because I said so.

Dealer markup+insufficient production to match buyer demand=$50000 Civic Si

thedrive.com/sheetmetal/15700/2018-honda-civic-type-r-hits-dealerships

>civic si
>posts a link to the civic type R

hmm

>drifting capability is the metric by which to evaluate a car

are you 13 years old and just watched the FF series?

>E-brake slides aren't drifts

kek

>Expecting someone (like me) who gives 0 fucks about Hondas to know the subtle nuances in the trim ranges

>subtle nuances
>two different cars

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Coming from a retard defending a ugly as fuck pigfat fwd boyracermobile... Got those engines for race week yet faggot?

>more memes and buzzwords from the expert on every car he's never driven

>still can't name a lighter faster fwd car

Were you stupid enough to actually buy one or are you blindly defending it too?

I couldn't be fucked. I don't care about fwd's let alone fwd's that are slower than a truck.

>blindly defending
the irony while you blindly attack it

>I don't care I'm just shitposting into the wind

>slower than a truck
so you DO care about a rwd car being slower than a truck? because thats the FRS in a nutshell

The frs can be slow because it's rwd and you can at least have fun with it.

>its allowed to be slow because I said so
literally slower than a civic si lmao

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It doesn't matter how fast it is, It's still fwd. You can't have fun with it and you can't drift it.

The tiny engine

Lmao

>you're not allowed to have fun in it
>and you can't drift
the delusion is real

>chevy HHR

top kek

delete this

>cucked by a 15 year old shitbox

Lighter?
nope
google.com/search?q=weight of a dodge caliber srt&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-1-ab
faster?
probably not because its so pigfat

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1. The clutch feels vague and shitty
2. The revs hang for too long
3. No faster than older Si models. Maybe even slower.

That's about it. It has LSD standard, 6-speed manual standard (auto trans is not an option), sunroof standard, and a bunch of other features standard. In fact, the only option available for this car is a set of summer tires for $200. It's a pretty good value at $25K MSRP.

Although, a base model WRX is only $2K more...

They can't be too off from each other if they're still calling each one a Civic, I presume the Type R is the Focus RS of the two while the Si is like the Focus ST eg sportier but not like bruise your taint super stiff autox sporty

TMW my 24 year old Mercedes has more HP and Nm than the Bunta Car 2.0

>2. The revs hang for too long

Are there any newer cars that dont?

>100 more HP
>can't keep up with a shitbox with a few simple weight reduction mods.

>100hp more
no its only 80 more

>a few simple mods
slow piece of shit...i can smoke the fuck out of this in my 1994 EG hatch with a couple of simple mods:

- 10 point cage with Parachute
- 3 piece discontinued JoJo frontend
- spec-R full drag suspension
- Fuel cell with -8 lines from tank to motor
- 1 044 bosch pump
- 1200 rc injectors
- golden eagle sleeved block
- cp 10:1 pistons
- Eagle rods
- arp headstuds
- oem h22 headgasket
- Balance shaft delete
- competition clutch twin disc
- Port and polished head
- skunk2 valve springs and retainers
- Str cam gears
- crower stage 1 cams
- aluminium radiator with slim fan
- gsr transmission with itr lsd.
- qsd h2k intake manifold adapter
- k20 rbc manifold
- qsd throttle body spacer
- blox 70mm throttle body
- 4bar omni map sensor
- 6al msd with coil and cap. 3 step launch control
- hks bov
- Garret 102mm turbocharger.
- Custom t4 front facing turbo manifold with 44mm flange
- 44mm tial wastegate
- Custom water to air intercooler set up
- aem eugo wideband w/ gauge
- tuned on chipped p28
- 13 inch volks drag rims
- 2 15 inch volks rear rims
- arp extended wheel studs
- si cluster
- 150 shots of nitrous
im making 348 horsepower to the FRONT WHEELS because thats the only place the power should ever be

>has better power-to-weight than any prior Si ever
>durr hurr pig fat

my only issue with it is that it's ugly as fuck, and rev-hang. The second can be easily fixed with a CPU flash though.

Wait. People don't do this?
Im getting a 2005 sti for the winter cause i can ge the end out and i daily drive supra's just so i can do this.... this isnt something everyone does?

owned
lol

The betasoys here only give a fuck about nerdy ass laptimes.

That's gay
Just buy 1990s GC8s. keep em stock and flat foot shift em. Fuckin 3500 bucks and run mid 13s and punish kids on the track

>gets BTFO for being retarded
>I-I just give 0 fucks guys
MERELY PRETENDING

Looks really nice only in black.
But, with all those deep creases in the bodywork, I know that the paint won't age well and in ten years, even the nicest examples will have weird fading or staining, I'm calling it