/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

Give me videogame OST to listen to while playing through the game for the 18th time

They're short as PGCS now,they have slow as hell 2HR1, their ar is butchered. Scimitar,demon scar,pkcs are leagues above them

And they're still longer than the fucking Falchion. The basic CS 2HR1 attack is so brokenly great that even that slight range nerf isn't that damaging, the AR nerf was far more damaging to their status at top of the meta to just being 'good' now. Though if you're going for an 80 Dex build there's no reason not to use the Scimitar over CCS, Sabre is a contender if you want to use the WA at least.

>98

That was never the meta in 3 or any proper Souls game, it was always 120-125 which you can easily do an 80 Dex build with if you sacrifice some END or put Dex down to around 70.

Nah still to shit at partying and vig is too low to risk getting smoked if I miss.

>They're short as PGCS now,they have slow as hell 2HR1, their ar is butchered. Scimitar,demon scar,pkcs are leagues above them

Painting Guardian Sword actually had its range buffed to be on par with theirs in the TRC patch. Their AR still is around 400-430 on quality or pure Dex builds which is perfectly fine for weapons that are as fast as they are. Scimitar is a good argument against using them though because on pure Dex it is absolutely amazing, Scar is a pyro weapon though so I wouldn't say it should be in the argument and PKCS is quality anyway and also agreed to be busted by absolutely everyone.

You'd think that he would try to go through the series in reverse order given how he's gonna do DeS for last. So the most logical would be to play BB next but then again it plays the most similar to 3 so maybe he could go to BB after slow DS2 and cap everything off with DeS.

Marcus "Epicnamebro" Sanders, the Vaati before Vaati and for all intense purposes the founder of the baka gaijin Soilsborne community. He is the pillar upon which the community rested on.

DS2 is probably my favorite of the three but it also took me the longest to appreciate its qualities.

I fell for the 80 dex meme and gave follower's sabre a try. Cant roll catch for shit with it. It's extremely easy with the PKCS on the otherhand. The range really makes the weapon.

The meta for /bbg/ is 98. He might've mixed the generals up. Or I might just be wrong and sound like an idiot.

Well, everything is longer than the falchion. Broken ss has more range than sabre and carthus now. The range and R1 speed nerf and AR nerf made them inferior to say LKS in every way or even longsword

I know that but it's still in the piddy range leagues,on par with rgcs,pgcs and a few others that are known to have like pisspoor range. Their r1 speed is noticeably slower which kind of defeats the purpose and gives no incentive to use them over a plain longsword

No, you're correct. /bbg/ stays at BL98 because they're allergic to the BL120 meta.

Pontiff is super easy to parry. On my pc I got like 5 frames per second and the Pontiff fight would literally freeze for minutes at a time because the performance was so shit but I was still able to parry him 3 times in a row. And that was with a MEDIUM shield. Small shields obliterate his first phase entirely.

But congrats on first trying him!

Best curved greatsword?
Asking for a friend.

>He is the pillar upon which the community rested on.
Still a faggot none the less

The "meta" is more or less useless outside of PvP, in which the /bbg/ FCs have become a good-sized shitshow. Haven't attended in months, and it feels great.

Yeah I'll learn to parry one of these days

>The range and R1 speed nerf and AR nerf made them inferior to say LKS in every way or even longsword

If you're comparing them to two of the best weapons of the game of course they'll come up worse but that doesn't mean they still aren't great relative to 80% of the other weapons in the game still. On a purely mechanical scale I agree those are better but that doesn't make Sabre and CCS bad now at all. Also the R1 speed nerf for heavy Curved Swords was only on followup R1s, the first 2HR1 is still as fast as it ever was which makes actually hit confirming people as easy as always.

>Their r1 speed is noticeably slower which kind of defeats the purpose and gives no incentive to use them over a plain longsword

See above. The heavy curved sword 2HR1 is still a few frames faster than the basic SS 1HR1 which can make a difference. Again a competent player with an LKS/Longsword can likely beat a Sabre/CCS user now (almost definitely if they have a shield) but that still does not make those bad on their own and if you use that argument you might as well say why bother using any weapon over those two.

To be fair, BB does have less stats to put in so it warrants having a lower meta. Everything still does tons of damage at that level as you can hit caps pretty easily and fit in that range.

Str build: Exile
Dex build: Kumo

>PvP in Bloodborne
Heh, nice meme.

Exile for raw damage and stat efficiency, Harald for range and WA trades. Murakumo if you're pure Dex and want a balance of damage and range. Old Wolf CS if you want to use it cheap on a 26/40 quality build and get optimal AR for it.

I would play Dark Souls 3 so much more as my go to game when I have nothing else to do if I didn't need to grind so many souls for upgrade mats when I want to change my build

Was going to make a frayed blade build but I need like 15 dragon scales and they cost 20k each and I'm not prepared to sit grinding lothric knights for like an hour

What platform?

My friend said thanks lads.

Well he's a perfect representation of the Souls community then!
his sisterfucking ways aside the dude seems really cool and I'd deffo hang out with him in real life and buy him a beer if I had the chance. He's a genuinely friendly and awesome guy but he becomes a prick in his Souls and especially ds3 streams

Xbone

>bradley of the old guard will never softly pat you on the head after you defeat the flexile sentry

Dude really needs to chill out a bit. His streams are often comfy but he gets so defensive so quickly.

Damn. I'm on PS4. Perhaps you could ask someone on here at a later point? I know how you feel though. I want to make a cosplay build but I can't bring myself to grind for the things I need and potentially go into NG+ at a lower level just to get a second copy of the same weapon. Also I can't make a face without a nose that is just flat.
You could also see if someone would want to play through parts of the game co-op with you to spice things up more.

I thought it'd be a fair to compare weps that are/once meta who's main purpose is fast R1s and rollcatch. While I'm not arguing that they're bad,as they can still shit on ultras and such. There's no reason to use then when there are weps that can do the same R1 really fast job but better than them. A weird comparison would be like why would you use garg spear on pyro (I know it's best on quality) when it got nerfed when you have dark bident

I can understand your argument when it comes to CCS at least because that's definitely worse than say a Sharp Scimitar now but I'd consider Sabre still comparable. It's WA is one of the best in the game still and reaches similar AR on pure Dex. Sabre actually works really well 1H with a WA shield since it's 1H range is noticeably longer than 2H, I'd recommend trying it since the 1H moveset still has the great running attack.

what's the best twink build is dark souls 3. i feel like working through some issues by pissing other people off

I wish there was just an undead match mode where all your gear was leveled to max or something

vordt's greathammer

Raw DSA with Gold Pine Resin
Two-handed Borthammer
Dark Hand

Any decent big weapons (great hammers, great axes, UGS) on early game? I want to play with a big weapon on main and chimes/talis on my offhand but I don't remember anything big aside from maybe Vordt's. Planning a str/fth build.

Great Club from the Exile guy at Crucifixion Woods. The Exile Greatsword from the other Exile is also a great choice for your build.

Mace, broadsword, DSA, borthammer and daggers with quickstep (to counter bort users) are twinking meta, HOWEVER. If you want to be a real asshole get some ghru weapons, especially the dagger, and harass mossless chaps on the wall/settlement

Borthammer is the earliest available guaranteed one.

Winged K***ht Halberd can theoretically be farmed off the Fat K***ht circling the fountain at High Wall. Stock Greataxe can be farmed off the big hollows on High Wall as well.

Great Wooden Hammer and Spiked Mace can be farmed at Und*** Settlement. Same for Great Machete off of the cage-wearing fat fucks. Once Greirat comes back from his guaranteed pillaging run you can also buy Zwei off of him.

Exile CGS can be obtained guaranteed at Crux Woods. BKGS can be farmed off the Black K***ht there.

Gutssword is loot inside Farron Keep, Farron Memesword you get by killing Abyss Watchers

Great Mace is available at Cathedral, same for CKGS. You can also grab Astora's from the graveyard.

If you're willing to accept regular greatswords, you can pick from Claymore (loot at High Wall), Bastard Sword (buy from Greirat), Flamberge (drop from Thralls in Und*** Settlement) and Executioner's (Cathedral). Hollowslayer's and Wolf K***ht's can be gotten via transposing.

>tfw bloodlust will never be as good as other katanas

>playing 3 for the first time
>get to Abyss Watchers, 10/10 fight
>think game can't get any better
>get to Pontiff Sulyvahn, 11/10 fight
>really start thinking the game can't get better
>get to ANOR FUCKING LONDO, and another 10/10 fight with Aldrich
>don't like the idea of having to use a specific weapon to fight Yhorm, but the fight was still pretty great

By the way, when should I start doing the DLCs? After I beat the main game? I presume NG+ works as it did in 2, where you have to manually start it, so am I better waiting? I've also only found the Ariamis DLC, not sure how to find the other one

You should generally start AoA by the time you actually get into Lothric Castle. TRC is locked until after you beat either AoA, or every required boss but the last one.

>I presume NG+ works as it did in 2
Hahahaha, no.

>where you have to manually start it
Oh, that's what you mean. Yes, you can choose when to go into later NG+ cycles from Firelink after you beat the final boss.

Gael left the chapel somehow and I can't access ariandel anymore
Is it because I went to TRC first?
is there a way?

Do you get into Lothric Castle after beating the Dancer? I haven't done that yet

Teleport to it

That's the problem. gael left cleansing chapel even though I didn't talk to him and didn't teleport to the painting
therefore I can't access it

What are you talking about, it's the only katana worth a damn

That's why you should always activate the DLC when you arrive at the Cathedral regardless if you're going to do AoA or not.

Go to where Gael is. He leaves the scrap of painting there and you can use it to go to Ariandel, they even made a unique cutscene for it for the one person like you who found yourself in that position.

Yes. Lothric Castle is behind Dancer. Beat Dancer, then beat at least one or two bosses after Dancer. Then you should be about tough enough to play AoA.

>it's true
nice, thank you

You don't have to use stormruler for Yhorm, it's there for people who can't tackle the actual bossfight to skip it. What you do need is a weapon that can hit a couple of feet above your head. I think that rules out whips, maces, daggers and cs. If course you can still fight with those but you'll only be able to hit the arms, not the head.
Yhorm is fought by hitting his arms and head, which receive normal and extra damage respectively. He is the best giant boss and answer to the complaints of people (like me) that killing a giant by clipping it's nails is retarded. Also a reason why Midir is such a great fight. Ancient Wyvern too, if it didn't have such horrible camera issues.
The best weapon against Yhorm by far is Ledo's, the strong attack is easy and safe to hit him square and in the head if you time it right. Also, spoiler for the fight, don't read if you want to figure out on your own standing under his feet baits him to do the downwards smash attack, bringing his head within spitting distance
Hope you'll have more fun next time you take him on

new to dark souls 3, is fire longsword good early

I got summoned in to help in an invasion against a hacker. He was invisible and teleporting and turning into various mobs that gave souls every time he switched.

I black crystaled out because he wasn't attacking or anything and it seemed like the invader and invadee might have known each other. Ever since I haven't seen any summon signs or been summoned. What are the chances I've been banned?

It's fine but you get a raw stone in the high wall which as a similar effect only leaves the weapon buffable. If you don't want to bother with magical stats or resins, go fire

Mm if you're planning on building strength or dex, maybe go heavy or sharp longsword?

It's only good in the first few areas when a bunch of enemies you'll be fighting are extremely weak to fire. Beyond that, you're better off deciding on a build you want to stick with and weaponizing accordingly.

>You don't have to use the Stormruler for Yhorm
This is a shit argument and only serves to encourage design where they make a boss almost undoable but then give you an instant win button right next to it and go "Well you have a choice!". Both choices are shit because there is no scenario where not using the Stormruler is preferable to using it.

They should've made the Stormruler
>only stagger Yhorm for a while which allows you to riposte them / do extra damage
>do damage but adjust both the health of the boss and the damage Stormruler does so that on NG+ cycles the lack of scaling means defeating him without it is preferable like Storm King from DeS

But no, the DS3 Stormruler is a lazy copypaste reference that does it even fit within the logic of it's own world.

In Demon's Souls the weapon only gained special properties in the bossroom because the obelisks were powering it up while DS3 lacks this lore justification and indeed the weapon art works everywhere, it's just completely unuseable everywhere else in the game.

Why does it only work on Yhorm but no other giants? Why can't you use it on King of the Storms in the Nameless fight or Cursewood?

It sucks, Yhorm would easily be my favoriteord of Cinder but they rendered him a non-fight due to the ebin DeS reference that was executed totally wrong.

I'll give From this, though. People on /v/ and here were jerking off to the thought of ebin DeS stuff returning so it doesn't surprise me at all why DS3 is the way it is.

You get informed if you get baned.

holy shit so is the girl in the ashes of ariandel dlc who's painting a new world supposed to be painting the world of bloodborne?

yo is this shit any good

nah

Yes but outclassed by Splitleaf like every other Spin Sweep halberd now.

yo what the fuck is splitleaf I was talking about dark souls 1

Oh in Dark Souls 1 it's fucking god-tier for PvE, it's known as stupidly strong for a reason.

It would be a shit argument if hitting him anywhere did shit damage and SR was the only way out. It is bad design, but you can just ignore thus one thing and have an actually great fight. It's like saying that because you can slap on way of the blue and keep summoning phantoms at the bonfire while endlessly rolling and avoiding conflict, it's the only way to deal with invaders. Or that because you can parry Gwyn, you HAVE to cheese him like this every time
Go give yourself a cactus enema
How is he supposed to know, that's a ds3 icon. Yes, it's retarded good in PvE but the weight and the fact that it's outclassed by the scythe with 40 dex makes it suboptimal in PvP

>for all intense purposes
People like you are diamond dozen.

It's OP as fuck is DS1 and 2

It's a painted world within a painted world within a painted world.

Since the CU didn't have a level up maiden, does that mean that SL1 runs are actually canon in lore? No other protagonist can level up like that, making me believe that it is only there for gameplay mechanics

Who was ariandale?

Daddy.

A mega ass waifu fag

King of scotland

Enbposter

So I don't want to start any trouble here but which one of you guys is trying to request porn of ENB and his sister?

>No other protagonist can level up like that, making me believe that it is only there for gameplay mechanics
Priscilla was supposed to be the level up waifu for Dark Souls 1. For whatever reason that ended up being (thankfully) cut because it wouldn't fit with the Metroidvania style of world.

What board is that?

Guys, I don't want to kill Yorshka. Can I just bribe her charm with candies?

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see guys this is an example of modern neo-souls community, the new target audience of from software

hobby-grade coop campaign; genre-blended, multi-mode competitive e-sports; meta-growth, choice + epic Dark Souls 3!

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What the fuck is this post even trying to convey? /v/edditors getting their buzzwords all mixed up again

I lose interest in the game after NG.
I just can't seem to play it after NG. I started the NG after finishing ds1 but it was boring so I had to move on to ds2 and then onto ds3. I think I'll get bored of ds3 once I beat it also.
That's why it's annoying how there are endgame items that I can't use much because I get them so late in the game and don't get to beat many areas or bosses with them.
Why do the 3+ rings have to be near the end of the game? I won't get to use them for NG.

I've no problem with greatswords but I want something bigger. Maybe I'll stay with WKH on the early game then find another huge weapon that I can change into lightning by late game

Large club is in settlement too, in the area with the demon

ds2 had the best fashion and variety you can't prove me wrong faggots

ENB please go you total shitter

prove me wrong

>but you can just ignore thus one thing and have an actually great fight
No, you can't. Your argument is like saying that Wolnir is a good fight if you don't attack the bracelets. Storm Ruler is obviously there for a reason, they obviously expect you to use it, and taking him on melee is worse than running around under Midir and slashing at his legs and tail.

The only alternative to Storm Ruler is to be a caster who shoots Soul Spears at his head and then goes for the visceral. You have very few other options to try to bring him down, since the windows for whacking at his hands and head with a melee weapon during recovery are stupidly small.

Just ask someone to trade you their Yorshka's. I have at least two from previous NG cycles, she's currently alive for all of my characters because of that.

The actual fashion options are actually fantastic though. You don't have problems with shitty neck seams, and the colors don't look completely washed out because of the whole "shit-brown is awesome!" mentality that pervades every design facet of DaS3.

Really, Fromsoft?
Does this faggot dog really have to keep teleporting at the edge of my screen all the way into the Chapel?
Who the fuck designed this bullshit?