It’s come to my attention that normies don’t like the 86/BRZ

It’s come to my attention that normies don’t like the 86/BRZ.

A coworker even told me today that her stock 2016 golf could beat one.

Why is this? Is the meme that 86s are shit until you engine swap actually true?

ITT:
>Things that never happened

yeah I don't belive this. normies think they're way faster than they really are

It’s true.

During the morning break today at my desk I was looking at car pictures online and as I was looking at pics of a BRZ a female coworker behind me literally said “nah don’t get one of those. They’re one of those cars that look fast but are actually just normal city cars, my golf is probably faster”

They're not wrong

Then she isn't a normie, since she knows at least something about cars, she isn't wrong. Doesn't mean the car is bad.

>A coworker even told me today that her stock 2016 golf could beat one
In what exactly? 0-60? 1/4 miles? Touge?

everything

Subaru BRZ Standing ¼-mile: 14.8 sec

Focus ST Standing ¼-mile: 14.9 sec

GTI Standing ¼-mile: 14.6 sec

from cars and driver btw

Because people who aren't into cars don't consider tracks or togues or whatever. All they think and care about is straight line speed

The gti handles better and can pull more g's through corners

...

Nah they do, and they can’t drive them for shit. From what I understand they should shred the twisties but I’m always slowing down behind them in hill chases. Why won’t normies play nfsu2 rl edition with me?

sounds about right.
Explains most of the retarded shit on Veeky Forums

>At work
>Look at the newspaper in the break room
>something scribbled over the car section
>it's a review of a crossover
>mid-sized crossover is crossed out with BORING MINIVAN written over it
>next line down says it's not the greatest, but...
>rest of the line is scribbled out
>"at least it's faster than a BRZ" written over it

I keked but yes, normies think jap cars are slower than they look. I mean, a camry has more power. Why the fuck do they keep making them so slow? Is it because fast two doors are meant to be a status symbol, not something the common man is allowed to have, so say the jewish overlords? Why?

Put the 86 on equivalent tyres and see what happens

Good tires are like a $500 upgrade

So yes add $500 cash to your new car, good idea.

>not instantly geting lightweight new wheels and sticky light tyres on your new well handling track and daily

why are you even here if you give no fucks about driving

If I did that my car would also cost $20,000 less.

Gotta save money for that inevitable track crash

perhaps if youre buying the cheapest base model 86, but even then $500 isnt that much to add on when youre buying a new car.

$500 is a lot of money no matter what you're buying. Have some perspective, warren buffet.

BRZ $26,315
GTI $27,265
$950 tires

The GTI has additional markup because german but yeah, it's still a lot of money. Money has uses outside of car purchases. I'd rather buy a used FRS that the PO put new pirellis on.

Or just wait till you need new tyres anyway. they are a consumable item and one of the things you burn through quickly in a couple of track days.

>being too poor to afford new tyres

A dsg gti hits 60 in 5 something... A fucking fwd hatchback. 86 in like 6-7

>Why is this?

Because it is slow, manual and RWD.

Normies want something safe and easy.

>Is the meme that 86s are shit until you swap the engine actually true?

Only if you want to go 40 over the speed limit and end up with a big fat fine. Only upgrade if you want to zoom on the highway or race on tracks with long straights.

If it's supposedly so slow why wouldn't you upgrade then?

>200hp
>more than 1 tonne
Lmao

pretty sure a jet plane does 0-100 faster.
There is more to driving enjoymant than numbers.

>a jet wouldn't be fun to drive

>The BRZ is so slow guys
>Faster lap time than Veeky Forums's favorite car the Miata
What did they mean by this

It's literally the normie affordable "sportscar" just like the miata.

But a golf is better, that's true.

They meant that the Miat is only faster on a track which nobody actually goes to.

Normies love the 86. They think anything that is rwd now is a sports car, even an E-class.

>normies are smarter than this random Veeky Forumsposter

>my golf is probably faster

Well which golf?

But the 86 is a sports car

Wife her

He's right, it says it right there

>dodge challenger

Come on man, do you actually think an executive sedan is a sports car?

0- 60 in half the time of your Shitbaru, and great driving dynamics according people who have driven it.

A 760Li xDrive is also a sports car then.

Guys! Look at my new sports car!!!

Now you've done it

Is that a Vauxhall Signum?

>these slow pigfat sedans post similar performance times to the E63 AMG S+
Nope.

For lack of a better term, I would classify most AMG as musclecars. They aren't affordable by any means, but are big comfy cars that are powerful and fast in line while making no effort to sacrifice comfort for handleing.

How fast does a car need to be for it to be considered a sports car?

Most normies and "car guys" only care about horsepower and straight-line speed because it takes too much mental bandwidth to think any deeper than that.

E63 AMG is 4,669lbs

How exactly is Veeky Forums defining a "sportscar" in thr first place? What makes a sportscar?

>Makes a point for a car weighing over 2 metric tons by calling other cars pigfat
How can one be so retarded?

How fast is an athlete required to be to be considered a sports person?

Light,RWD, and good handling

>How fast is an athlete required to be to be considered a sports person?
So in other words you don't know?

Pigfat and slow is unacceptable.

Pigfat and fast gets a pass.

The Toyobaru is the ultimate fedora-tipping car on the planet.

>light
So everything that isn't a Miata isn't a sportscar then.

>RWD
So Audi R8, Huracan, etc aren't sportscars then.

But what is fast?
>cue Vsauce music

Audi r8 and huracan are super cars you jackass, there's alot of other cars comparable to 86 and miata

>So Audi R8, Huracan, etc aren't sportscars then.

They are supercars not sports cars.

A miat with few simple mods would run laps around the brz.

Any of you faggots thinking the pigfat brz is a good car, you're the normies.

The only faggot is you

The Chiron is a supercar. The Aventador is a supercar. R8 and Huracan are sportscars.

If not being a normie and liking a shit product means that imma faggot then Yeah, imma a fag but at least im not a soyboi in a "sports car" that gets lapped by a eg6 with a small turbo and coilovers

>R8 and Huracan are sportscars
-an idiot

>Chiron is a
hypercar.

Not very bright are you.

A BRZ with the same mods would run rings around the Miata. Your point?

>Imma faggot
Nice to see we can agree on something, pray the gay away user

That's the most cuck reply possible.

>hypercar
>is only faster to 60 by 0.4 seconds than a BMW M5 saloon

The brz never had the makings of a varsity athlete.

Based

>he doesn’t hit the touge in his 4,000 pound road-going light cruiser
Lmao

Mostly because that was maters to most people. They just want to get to speed quickly on the freeway or pass a slow driver without spending a full minute in oncoming traffic

A sports car is a 2 DOOR car made for HANDLING. Mercedes, mustangs, challengers, etc are not sports cars. The '90 na6 miata is more of a sports car than any of those cars

That's amerifats, buddy.

HANDLING what?
The Merc certainly handles the quarter mile better than a Miata.

You should suck her dick

A 720S is a supercar. A Chiron is a hypercar.

Corners. Mercedes are OK for corners but they are not made for them. Also the car has to be made from the ground up for handling and AMG cars just use the same chassis as the base model cars.

So do M cars, faggot.

>720s
2.5 seconds

>Chiron
2.4 seconds

BMW M cars use a different chassis. The M2, m4, are sports cars, the m6 is a grand tourer

What's an engine swap that won't ruin the weight distribution in an 86? I've seen a couple of 2jz swaps but they're a really fucking heavy engine. Id rather have a meh performance but balanced and good feeling drivers car than a fast nose heavy oversteering death machine. Has a turbo 4 banger from mitsu or Subaru been swapped with a decent amount of reflection on the end result?

>720S
13.6 seconds 170mph
>Chiron
13.5 seconds 186mph

So all the suspension modifications AMG does means the AMG GT isnt a sportscar?

NOOOO IT WASN'T BUILT FROM THE GROUND UP MIATA IS A TRUE SPORTS CAR REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

This is an absolute shitfest. Nobody can agree on anything here.

The AMG GT was built FROM THE GROUND UP as a handling car. I am talking about the trophy wife cars AMG makes.

AMG GT uses much of the chassis from the SLK though

It's a musclecar though.

Veeky Forums also.

a Lotus, Miata, z4, 1m, 86, 124 spider etc are sports cars. 2 doors, built for handling, etc.

124 is a modified Miata though. Not a sportscar.

>much of the chassis
It isn't the same chassis then.

miata is a sports car, the 124 spider is one too. Why are Mercedes fanboys so dense? It' ok that they are not sports cars, not very good car has to be a sports car.

But it's mostly the same.

Same goes for other AMG cars that have reinforced subframes and mounting points for certain components.

So basically, you're retarded.