/owg/ - Overwatch General

>M E R C Y . R E W O R K
>(also some D.Va stuff)
Keep in mind that they explicitly said that they'll change parts of this if necessary. This is PTR, not final.
youtube.com/watch?v=vDlCqJ1tD3M

Also, the PTR is full right now.

>NEW CINEMATIC, "Rise and Shine"
youtube.com/watch?v=8tjcm_kI0n0

>SEASON 6 CHANGES INCOMING
SEASON 5 ENDS SOON
youtube.com/watch?v=Jqf0e8zzyCw

>The Summer Games 2017 event ends on August 28th MONDAY
>last year's items are back for regular price (1x), while new items are also available for event pricing (3x)
youtube.com/watch?v=2OWbGgGjdBk

>Event item tracker:
js41637.github.io/Overwatch-Item-Tracker/#/events/SUMMER_GAMES

>New escort map JUNKERTOWN has been announced, playable at Gamescom!
youtube.com/watch?v=mcPDd16_9dI
youtube.com/watch?v=_q0QGtk_AM0

>Deathmatch is coming soon
youtube.com/watch?v=4_CBzklel1c

>Dev Q&A stream highlights:
- Mercy / D.Va reworks (see the developer update / patch notes)
- Lots of secret back-end changes for Season 6
- They're aware of Mercy / off-meta mains gaming the SR system; SR calculation changes coming... eventually
- No solo-only queues or search preferences coming, but the devs do know how much the community disagrees with them on this
- Maybe map voting / rotation someday
- See-through objective markers "soon"

>Latest comic
reader.madefire.com/work/w-a2da1239584645338362109be0e7f1fd/read/

>Latest PC patch notes
PTR: playoverwatch.com/en-us/blog/20972920
Live: playoverwatch.com/en-us/game/patch-notes/pc

>Overwatch dev tracker
overstalk.io

>Hero tips, tricks and basics
pastebin.com/Qf2AKa8R

>Source / Quake mouse sensitivity converter
jscalc.io/calc/djyxBymfcWCIgD4f

>Personal stats / leader boards
overbuff.com
masteroverwatch.com

>Previous thread:

Widowmaker is my mommy!

Are Mercy mains the worst kind of players in any video game?

I WANT A REINHARDT TITTYPAD

this is another thing that pisses me off about the pro scene why do pros use the default skins when they play? it makes the game look bad and unpolished

Beautiful OP as always.

What will Mercy "mains" play now that their hero is no longer a one trick hero?
Place your bets.

All in on Winston

Is Blizzard going to put out a statement attempting to address this avalanche of salt they've unleashed?

I want two reinhardt titty pads

Mommy.

r8 my reinhardt rework /owg/

Lucio, and we will all suffer for it.

guys, im a le mercy main and these changes are really bad

i will actually need to move now and press a few more buttons :((

Winston, D.Va, or Symmetra as they are the most brain dead and shitty heroes also in need of being completely removed.

>it's a your team stays at the chokepoint after wiping the enemy team episode

Mei.

Yes.
Now enjoy their salt like everyone else is right now, friend.

>League and Dota have dozens of tanks

there are no 'tanks' in dota theres just durable heroes but most of the time that doesnt matter for shit

no fucking stance characters
bastions already shit enough
also a passive 50% speed boost is the most hilariously broken thing ive ever seen suggested for this game

Torbjorn, but wont can't roleplay as a dwarf, so they'll go as based symmetra, even though shes indian

Why would you ever not be in Crusader mode? Literally all of that alone would be a huge buff to Reinhardt, that doesn't even factor the stance-dancing bullshit that having a "Siege" option would add

>winston and symmetra

spotted the genji bab who gets fried to death

>Mercy """mains""" complaining that they don't have their crutch to help them anymore and don't want to adapt to change

This is objectively going to be one of the best updates. It's going to filter out so many shitters.

>put forth so little effort
>always looking back at the crappy parts that I didn't bother to try to make better
>still get compliments
Thanks.

Frontline characters then. The point is if you want to be a tanky piece of shit and soak damage for your team you have way more options in those games.

>1.5 speed boost
>Hold shield and swing a the same time
this is some of the stupidest shit I've ever seen but it'd also be retardedly fun so blizzard please put it in

its definetly lucio since he is an equally braindead hero

>stance
go away to legion please

>those Mercy changes
The cancer is rapidly spreading

Because custom skins have no place in a 100% cimpetitive environment.

Less than 10 dota heroes went unpicked at TI this year. When you consider the fact that each of them is extremely unique, as opposed to League where many of them are mild variations within a given role, it's pretty fucking scary how well-balanced that game is.

Meanwhile in Overwatch we have...over half the cast is basically useless at the highest tiers of play. The game is blatantly balanced with typical pub players in mind, complete with balance updates that come in the form of an unkempt dev talking straight into the camera for 10 minutes like a hostage.

I just don't understand what Blizzard is smoking lately. They talk so big on their game design process and the results are still fucking shit.

This isn't the company that made Brood War and Diablo 2 anymore, it's the company of Hearthstone and Overwatch and HotS. They keep making casual games and then try forcing an esports scene by throwing money at it and poaching popular streamers from other games, get mediocre results and shrug and TRY THE EXACT SAME THING WITH THE NEXT GAME.

I'll never forget the fucking ego they showed when they were making HotS. They seriously thought they were gonna blow the lid off LoL and Dota. Anyone even casually familiar with those games, anyone with a friend in their life who's really really into either of those games, would know right away that that's fucking impossible and wasn't surprised at all when the first iteration of the game flopped. Blizzard's corporate bubble is immense and refuses to pop no matter what failure-needles it gets poked with.

Wrong mommy.

Its more of the idea behind it that I like. It also indicates what the most people in the thread will talk about

>in the form of an unkempt dev talking straight into the camera for 10 minutes like a hostage.
as much of a hack as kaplan is his hostage videos are always nice

>not Widowmaker

The reveal of their romance will deliver Overwatch from hell.

>dumb bitch who isn't even a mom
no

>76 is fucking a literal corpse

damn he's kinky

I suddenly love Jeff now, this Mercy nerf is like a christmas present.

>The point is if you want to be a tanky piece of shit and soak damage

theres only 2 abilities that taunt or force you into attacking the caster (yes im going to ignore ww ult because its not relevant)

duel and berserkers call the latter which affects only those in an aoe around you and duel is single target, the best way to dispatch tanky heroes in dota is to simply ignore them and kill them after the carries are dead

ow is simply a badly balanced and designed game where this isnt possible

How do we rework a bar of hand soap?

ORISA? MORE LIKE BORE-ISA

>have seen more people complaining about Mercy mains complaining than actual complaints about the Mercy changes

necrophilia is a decent fetish

Doesnt change what i said. I dont even play Genju and Winston is a non-factor to me since the Reaper change.

>you can send an error report with your crashes
>will get penalized for crashing so much anyway
Why?

because it's all this general gets off on
Shitting on mercy.

Jesus I remember /owg/ exploding when she was released, goddamn what a ridiculous day, I'll never forget it.

Make his ult an ability on a 30 second cooldown

New ult makes him shoot faster, arrows pierce shields/barriers and have multiple sonic arrows out at once

>thinking they are fucking now

They hate each other too much and when they make up the best we'll see is occasional cuddles.

>more people complaining about Mercy mains complaining than actual complaints about the Mercy changes
have you looked at literally any other overwatch place outside of /owg/? I guarantee you it's filled with them.

why not? in dota 2 pro almost always have cosmetics on their hero, usually theyre rare and expensive or they are gifts from other players and guess what it has zero negative impact on the game

t. mercymain

Dont pollute based frog-boy with your shitness.

Just take one lool at the OW forums dude, its on complete meltdown

Well I got Widow's skin. Damn fucking shame it had to be one of the most skill intensive characters in the game because I can't use her at all

so why are you butthurt about them then? i have a friend who mains mcree in masters and gets assblasted about junkrat

>start playing pharah
>hate mercy mains even more
Didn't see that coming.

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making his ult smaller and on a cooldown was always something I thought would work, but now due to the mercy rework it will just sound like i'm memeing

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Fine, maybe that's the case in Dota, I don't play it. League has at least a dozen characters with taunts, both targeted and AOE.

My point is that options create variety and Overwatch only has options for DPS right now so there isn't any variety with tanks and healers. It's much more of a lack of options problem than a design problem. If Overwatch had 100 characters in it you can bet there would be more than two approved tanks and healers per meta

I just said because they're brainless and stupid. That's all. Doesnt mean they beat me, they're just shittily designed characters. Which is the theme of the Mercy rework, trying to fix poorly designed heroes since removing them isnt an option.

I wonder who she plays, genuinely curious
Although to be fair though, shes the opposite of us, where we would slam on lucio or doomfist for their stuff.

I'm supposed to be up in 5 hours but I don't want to miss any of the Mercy drama, this is so enjoyable to watch.

less damblage
more arrow types
gimme arrows that do cool stuff rather than kill people so his inherent inconsistency doesnt actually matter and his contribution is measured in utility rather than picks
but obviously you still make him capable of defending himself

Nah, not smaller. His ult is amazing for zoning.

Hot tip: A hanzo ult that delays an enemy approach from getting on the point in overtime, but doesn't do a single point of damage isn't a wasted ult.

>mfw mercy rework

all they have to do now is fix the scatter arrows and ill be happy

>mercy can still turn herself and someone else invincible every 30 seconds

Make his ult travel faster, remove the dead zone

If you really want to cry about scatter then reduce the damage but significantly reduce the damage (think of it like enough damage and low
CD to consistently scare away flankers, but not 1 shot everything that moves)

Maybe make it easier to land his arrows from a distance, or atleast tell how far off you are

>3 days to get all summer skins and do my placements
is it possible

just let him beat the fuck outta people with his bow like he does in dragons

The thread isn't moving at warp-speed anymore, you'll probably only have to read back on two at the most if you sleep for five hours. Go to bed user.

everyone knows how good zoning hanzo ult is because he charges it so fucking fast literally the only heroes with faster charging ults are hog tracer and sombra

OW girls favorite foods:

Tracer: Seafood (clams)
Zarya: Man meat
Widowmaker: Cock-au-vin
D.va: Thorazine (for the autism)
Mei: Lard
Mercy: Worst girl pills
Sombra: Second worst girl pills
Ana & Pharah: Kebab (non-halal because rebellious)
Symmetra: Whatever resembles diarrhea the most

About right?

source me up, friendo

>they'll never come together as bros
not even into gay shit but this warms my heart

never
ever
This, but also give him his backflip like in the highlight.

>Ana & Pharah: Kebab (non-halal because rebellious)

kebab is halal you mongoloid

This rework is going to be fucking great
I'm finally going to be able to let fucking loose on Mercy
The only thing holding me back from blasting your asses was that stupid tether, but now that I can actually be a COMBATANT in the fucking game you little shits better watch out
The angel of death is coming
Prepare your assholes

*reduce the damage but significantly reduce the Cooldown

Mercy doesn't get invincibility on rez anymore, read the PTR patch notes.

>cry about scatter
lol nope, I main arrow man and enjoy reading people cry about it.

>mercy can still turn herself and someone else invincible every 30 seconds
Check the developer update or the patch notes, dumbass.
She's no longer invincible at all during rez.

Mercy's new ult is retarded. It's almost like Blizzard didn't know that it should do, so they made it do everything. For starters, it shouldn't last 20 seconds, and it shouldn't give flight that feels like a /noclip cheat code.

At least ress made sense, no matter how unbalanced bullshit it was.

What about Orisa?

>PTR changes

>Orisa is better
>Mercy isn't as brain dead and is much better(Although has too much firepower in her ult form, she doesn't need unlimited ammo, more fire rate AND more damage all at once on a support ult)
>Hog is better (Still niche and probably not good enough but its a start)
>Widow is better
>Junkrat is much better
>Not a doomfist in sight

I think the PTR changes are actually great. The game feels much better and way more balanced to play.
Even the Dva change with the missiles and being able to boost while shooting is a big buff to her firepower, the DM nerf makes her much much easier to kill which is good.

I mean shes basically just an offense hero now. Like a weird giant variation of Genji. Whether thats good for their vision of making her more of a tank: I dont think so. But she feels more fun and more balanced than on live so its a good change overall. (Honestly just say fuck it and make her an offense hero like they should say fuck it and throw Sym in the defense dumpster)

Now we just need a bit more of a nudge for roadhog
And then we need to get on the Orisa ult changes (It may as well not exist)

And reworking/mega buffs to bastion mei and handsoap

>The angel of death is coming
That angel is here already though.

I'm mostly going through the forums right now though, but yeah I'll go in a few

Africans don't eat. Show a little cultural sensitivity.

>Not a doomfist in sight
wow so that brand new hero people wanted since one of this very first cinematics 2 years ago is garbage yeah great job there blizzard

>Low health as Pharah
>up high using vertical cover waiting for our Anna to top me off
>suddenly die
>kill cam is hanzo missing a scatter shot on orisa half a mile bellow me
I can't fathom how this shit still exists.

> Lower scatter damage
> lower scatter cooldown to compensate
> make ult travel faster
> remove 10m deadzone on ult

Most importantly however
> fix the fucking noregs

One of the worst fucking feelings while playing Hanzo is landing an arrow, hearing your arrow hit the target, only to have the arrow not register and do 0 damage

Does Widowmaker like being called mommy?

>finished my placement matches for season 5 maining ana
>i knew i was in gold
>get silver, 1 match away from low gold, lose 2 matches in a row anyway
>fuck that noise, time to finish the loot box farming with some lucioball placement matches
>THIS happens
WTF overbabs??????????????????

>I have never gotten a 4 man res

what if they got rid of the 'defense' category and retooled each to fit in as either a tank, offense, or support hero

>Ana & Pharah: Kebab (non-halal because rebellious)
Ana and pharah are egyptian arabs not muslims, you fucking moron

But Numbani is a paradise where Omnics and Humans live side-by-side in perfect harmony! That's what Lucio says! He wouldn't lie!

The only change I would give to Hanzo is to give his dragon arrow burning effect on those it hits.

Arabs are muslim lol

>remove scatter
>reduce sonic cooldown by 5 seconds
>give him a melee strike that does 130 damage
>let him jump off walls like genji used to be able to