/owg/ - Overwatch General

Finally admitted who's my waifu...Not easy, but I cannot deny it anymore.
She's exotic as hell, erotic without being obscene...

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main a patrician character like orisa or symmetra

This guy repeatedly slaps your ass in QP and your whole evening is ruined. What do you do?

>maining shit or poo

Remember that it's QP and continue to play like usual

Because he has a steeper learning curve than most other heroes, meaning shitters in lower elo's can't immediately pick him up and expect results. This also results in a lot of terrible Genji players achieving absolutely nothing in lower elo's.

But I want to win! It gives more XP too!

spoken like a true doomfist main

>getting your ass slapped

Then play someone that'll slap his ass back like Rein or trashmouse

>repeatedly
Leaving QP is free during the team assembly phases. If a low-Diamond Genji one-trick is giving you that much trouble, just reinstance.

>literally got nerfs and movement bugs got fixed removing some of the ridiculous movement

Why have they still not reworked Scattershot? It still the most bullshit ability in the game

>do I want loot more than I despise Lucio

What? In what league does Rein or Junkrat EVER counter Genji? (Who was also boosted by a dedicated Mercy and backed with voice line spamming Mei, argh.)

On the next match he was on my team, and I didn't even need to do anything, because he and his party were single handedly keeping the enemy at spawn. It would have been hilarious if it wasn't also so depressing...

Im not denying that Genji has a high skill cap, but his skill floor is insanely forgiving. In every tier from plat and up he has a positive winrate, and I wouldn't call plat players "Good"
They're more average/meat of the bell curve

Genji is insanely easy to get good results out of, like Mercy or Dva or Winston or Soldier. Because his basic playstyle just gives him so much leeway

>Spam projectiles from all ranges because no fall off
>Easy 50 damage with reset dash
>Ult is easy as shit to get kills with
>Double jump, climb and deflect in case you fuck up

Hes hard to play perfectly but hes not a hard hero to play

>right click
>prefer this player
Yall think I'm kidding. I thought of it a few months ago. Every player I see who's a higher level then me, I prefer. That way, I'm queueing with higher level guys instead of low level shitters at random.

>and it works!
I queue with someone I've preferred at least 20x a day. All silver borders, or 400+.

>untouched
You don't remember the days of 8 second Dragonblade?

>the most played DPS in comp
That would be Soldier: 76. Genji is only picked more than Soldier at Diamond rank and above.

Do it coward

>Mercy shitters bitching about her new ult because of "muh pacifism"
>not seeing the irony in rez highly encouraging and rewarding you callously letting your teammates die without trying to prevent it so you can get your one-button game winner and POTG
They truly are only pissed because their free SR is gone and have to use their brains now

The devs say it doesn't really work, and they are removing it all together. But maybe if you play in the dead of night and lowpop hours, it might have a small effect.

I'd much more prefer to get AVOID PLAYER back, tho.

Just put a podcast on in the background, fuck around on the field without really caring, and just stay in games until you find two teammates who (by skill or by luck) just happen to carry you.

I WANT A REINHARDT TITTYPAD

When Genji is doing what he's supposed to do which is flanking, he's easy to kill him as trashmouse as long as you don't blindly shoot at him.
Rein can kill him just as easy with 2-3 swings (don't remember how much damage he does)
Though if he has a dedicate mercy, it'll be harder though you just need to focus mercy then Genji. Though it sounds like his party is using some strat that people can't get around.

Hey tittypad, is Rein your main?

Oh yeah I remember the Genji nerfs

Just like I remember the Lucio nerfs. Good thing those heroes got taken care of and arent in every game ever now right?

Mei's hat is cute

He becomes significantly more difficult to play as depending on the enemy teams composition. Winston will give him almost no breathing room, Reinhardt will smack his shit if he gets too close, and even a competent Torbjorn could make his job more frustrating.

Of course, he's my favourite character!

thank fuck genji and tracer are the most dynamic, well designed and most fun to play dps without a doubt that I don't mind having them in most games.

her feet are cute too

>solokill three dudes with baby dva and capture point B on volskaya
>"i think mei carried"

Such is life in gold

Winning with Mercy now requires keeping your team alive and winning teamfights. Your Mercy will never again tell you in all seriousness to kill yourself. Except for initiation with a trade kill at higher ranks.

An interesting side-effect of this is Mercy and Ana as your two support has become very dangerous, since Valkerie isn't strong enough to stop team wipes. You'll want Sound Barrier or Transcendence.

THICC

just plat mystery you fag

are we getting that as a skin?
i really want more updates that are like eichenwald when rein got the baldreich skins

We're just replying to something you said that was obviously, inarguably wrong. Don't try to deflect by replying with more retarded shit.

>oh shit a legendary
>it's 500 coins

Knowing Blizz they'll probably release her Rise and Shine skin for the Christmas event instead of making something better than last year's

That's actually a good thing. 500 coins is a lot.

>it's a Roadhog skin

>every other game has 3 dps

is it better to be let worse people play DPS or be selfless and play tank/support?

Why the fuck hasn't Blizz raised the amount of credits you get from lootbox drops? You're earning less than half of what you were before the change now that dupes are completely gone. They supposedly raised the drop rate of credits but I can barely fucking tell.

>not having fun while playing your video game

It would be the best Mei skin in the game and far better than last year's Christmas skin, so I would welcome it. Mei has a lot of crap skins.

If you don't think playing tank or support will make any difference, just play what you want.

I got to a point where I got literally every blue item in the game except some event stuff, so every lootbox equates to 15~50 credits.
It gets better, don't worry.

I rather take those 500c than get a shitty non legendary skin for a character that i don't even play

Doesn't help i'm like 200c away of afford widowmaker skin and i haven't got any luck with the lootboxes recently

>tfw chat banned for telling Mercy mains who were silver last season that they're trash and should throw every game to go back to silver where they belong
Sick and tired of 1900 SR Mercy mains in Master

Fuck you genji apologists the hero is too damn strong and literally has no weakness.

He doesn't fall behind in damage from any other dps and yet has the best mobility in the game and a good ult too.

Literally WHAT MAKES HIM BALANCED

Tracers an example of an "Actually OP, but takes so much skill to play it doesnt really affect anything other than GM and pro scene". Genji rules plat and above aka most of the playerbase.

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Bait

>banned for being an asshole
Even if you think it's justified, you should have seen that coming

how does OW run on a shitty laptop

>talking shit to shitters
There's your problem - if you're team is going to talk shit and get butthurt all game, mute your mic, mute your team, and listen to Eurobeat instead

This is the true pill to get to GM

>Don't try to deflect by replying with more retarded shit.
CARLOS

Or just make it so that every lootbox comes with some basic amount of credits. Like 25 or something.

I have not seen a single duplicate since they changed the system. For reference, all of my heroes except for maybe Doomfist and Orisa have their colored progress bar for item collection at least half full, if not more.
Any coins I've gotten have been from coin drops, not duplicates, so basically I don't get coins these days. Which makes their whole "buy stuff you want for coins" thing essentially not a viable system any longer, unless you have an ungodly amount of playtime already logged in the game.

>genji rules plat
He really doesn't, and I was stuck in plat for most of my playtime.

It honestly depends. Most people play flex at around 200 to 500 SR less than their mains. So a Master DPS can probably carry as tank and support in Diamond.

However, most is not all. Some people play tanks and heals so badly your team would be better off if they were just emoting in spawn. It's hard to believe that a person of your own rank could be that completely incompetent, but it happens very often.

I leave voice and mute the chat during games where I'm getting tilted but still yell at my team in the chat

>Fuck you genji apologists the hero is too damn strong and literally has no weakness.
>literally has no weakness
Just to shut you up, I hope they give Genji wall running and a speed boost when he uses Dragon Blade.

Know YOUR place silly boy
*flirts lewdly with bf in open mic during round*

Thats true, except for the part that Genji is played a hell of a lot more than either torb or rein and is better than both heroes.

Saying winston counters him doesn't really mean anything considering genji and winston are just in every game ever no matter what, respectively out classing every other dps and tank.

But its ok because "genji has a high skill cap". A skill cap so high he's the most played QP hero by a long shot (Kaplans own words) And consistently top 5 most played hero in comp

Im honestly just sick of this weaboo bullshit in every single game. He does too many annoying things to not infuriate me

And then I feel forced to pick Winston and ruin my own fun just to stop Genji stomping all over us.

Im looking forward to the Junkrat buff, I already do really well against him as Junkrat. But Mei needs buffing to stop Genji too. And Sym.

I dont think its a coincidence that all the heroes designed to counter slippery mobile heroes just happen to be shit as well.
If they got buffed to an acceptable power level genji's reign of bullshit could end too

Fuck, 3000 shekels. I can't decide.

>le presses shift at you
>le right click spray and prays or left click squirts into chokepoint at head height
>le punishes you for being accurate

He really is Tracer for shitters

My only issue with Genji is he doesn't need a shotgun. Alt-fire is a crutch for most Genji players, but the fact remains that nerfing it would make Genji players with better aim dominate the 90% of Genji mains with shit aim.

McCree players laugh at people who still use fan-the-hammer. That's the status that Genji's alt-fire should have.

>tfw got all the legendary skins and have 10k coins left

Did that used to exist?
Do you have any idea how useful that shit would be?! Jesus christ almighty.

Giving him a new ability will do 3 things
-Put him against similar abilities
-Put him against his own abilities
-Counter heroes that are weak to said ability

Firstly, what's this grenade gonna be like? We talking like a single shot Junkrat's prim fire? Well it can't be the same, so to compensate you either increase the damage or the blast radius to account for the cooldown. Great, now you have a Reaper combo that hard counters all the flankers in the game and does sizable damage to tanks. Broken? Then let's tone down to a utlity-Less damage than Junkrats nade, but lets give it something irrelevant to the discussion, example purposes only. Call it a smoke nade or some random shit like that. Well great, does it do anything in particular? Will people just ignore it like Halt, or will it be something so needed, he becomes a mustpick for that one utility-like Lucio's speed? No? Well if it ain't doing damage, and it ain't doing utility, whats the point of it?

Now how's it going to combo with the rest of his kit? Keep in mind that his kit is currently quite well balanced at the very least contrasted with the shitshow we have in relativity in Overwatch atm, so giving him a new toy means you gotta nerf one of his old toys. Make the new toy shit anyways and it's a straight nerf to his niche. Make his toy amazing, and you have to heavily nerf his established kit-such as D.Va's missiles right now, destroying his niche. No nerf and you have just straight buffed a balanced hero, leading to problems further down the line. The fact we are giving what is essentially the closest ranged niche hero in the game a nadelauncher not only removes his major downside (lack of range), but also takes away his niche and puts him ever so vicariously further towards midrange DPS meme.
Does it even combo with his kit though? Your example with Zarya? Her beam is better in every single situation-bar when she needs explosion damage the most, during her ult

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>spending that much on repo man

mad

>QP

scratch my nuts while taunt killing as widowmaker

I hope she'll be okay

I think I'm only now realizing how much of a crutch rez was for these kind of people.

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Finally is the worse bit-Counters. Reaper currently softcounters and hardcounters a fair amount of heroes relative to the roster. Hogs, Reins and Winstons are fearful of you, whereas D.Va, Bastion and the 3 flankers should be cautious of you. This is balanced. But now our egdelord friend has a burst, and he has some form of range to go with it. Now he hardcounters the flankers with an aforementioned damage based combo, or he sofcounters the aim heavy heroes with his examplesmoke etcetc. Whatever way you put it, he's got more utility, so he's gonna be needed in more situations, meaning his whole kit is going to have an identity crisis-buff his short range at the expense of his new toy, or buff his long range at the expense of the rest of his kit?

Great. Now we have a capable, balanced Reaper with his new ability. everything is fine. Ooops, wait didn't you know? In this state, 3 months down the line he is going to be useless and uberhardcountered against the new hero and all the balance changes that have to accommodate Gijongo the Transafrican example hero. Back to the drawing board!
But you know what would fix this? Let's just give him a new ability

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Or to give him more range you could have widened his spread, but increased the amount of pellets near the centre of his shot and skipped all that new ability shit, whilst keeping true to his original design.

>tl;dr-its a great short term aid, but will inevitably fuck him over in the long term

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Wow you are just assuming a whole lot of shit, aren't you? It can be like Zarya's M2, but with the damage and splash of Soldier's M2 and the same cooldown. So broken.

I can tell you are just going to keep assuming dumb shit I didn't say in order to push your point that giving Reaper another ability would be too broken, so I'm not gonna waste my time.

I think you're giving Genji too much credit. I don't struggle with him anywhere near as much as I do against Pharah, or even Tracer really.

Putting aside all thoughts of balance and whether she can actually tank anymore, are D.Va's changes fun?

>Waaaah, I can't win games by pressing Q!

Do you get penalized if you leave at hero selection?

>read PTR notes
>think that valkyrie mercy would be broken as shit and wreck the game further
>decide to download the PTR and give it a try

>new mercy is actually top fun
>resurrect feels a ton less bullshit and got a lot more fun to counter
>valkyrie is a little too strong in terms of damage output, but can easily be shot down with a tiny bit of burst damage

i haven't seen too many d.va players in-game, but things generally felt significantly less frustrating throughout, mostly because you didn't have mercy suddenly swoop in and undo your team's efforts just like that
what does /owg/ think about the PTR changes?

Ahh, so you are going for the high damage package? The nade/shot burst will need to be balanced as specified. Come on man, I'm treating you with respect here, least you can do is take it seriously

QP? Nope. Comp? Yes.

>gamer girls salty their epic M1 plays won't be enough

LOL

The problem with it is, alt-fire makes his attacks come out even faster. The shurikens come out fast enough as it is, but is it really fair that the nigger just flips over you, right clicks at your centre of mass and removes 75% of your hp with a melee?

Then of course there is literally no escape sans an invulnerability from his hitscan-tier dash.

Its bullshit.

He's strong up close
He can just throw projectiles endlessly from far away and get kills and ult charge
He can escape
He can chase
He can force YOU to stop attacking with deflect

I dont understand why he has so much and Reaper has

>I have close range shotguns lol pls dont run away

And Blizz sits there in california wondering why people wont pick reaper

But what I hate most about Genji is he just forces you to outbullshit him with Winston or tracer

So rather than play someone you actually want to play, you just have to pick someone with more health than him that literally cannot miss, and can chase him down with leap. Its like a chore

>Tumblr can't hide from team fights and avoid hard work waiting for a res anymore
>Twitch streamer girls' ranks are going to drop like a 2 dollar whore on nickel night

>"crutch"
Because relying on an ultimate is bad. I guess relying on a Barrage or a Hammer Down is using a crutch as well.

I dont struggle with him so much as he's in every single game ever and its not fucking fun always having to deal with him

I've started playing Junkrat and Hanzo a lot more recently just to be able to burst him down. But its ridiculous that Trap seems almost tailor fit to counter Genji, and yet a deflecting genji in the trap is still dangerous and you cant touch him and have to try and awkwardly throw your mine above him.

>that one at the top complaining about fucking Bastion