Well Veeky Forums, I'm coming close to getting my hands on a new car soon. I have a few brands and models researched & I saved up some bucks.
Now comes the hard part...dealing with a car salesman.
I've never do this before and I figured I should ask you all since I've noticed a massive hatred for dealerships within a lot of the threads I browse
Teach me your ways Veeky Forums.
I want to Jew the Jew.
inb4 20 posters that "got a sweet deal, the dealer actually lost money on it." You cannot win going to a franchise dealership. They will make thousands off you no matter what. It's not possible to get a "good" deal.
>but I really did on a last years model blablabla
No, the salesman put on an act, pretended to have to go back and forth with his manager, and "reluctantly" took the deal. If you think you got a good deal on a new car you got played like a fiddle. Buy private party and don't be a retard that buys a new car.
It's very possible to get a better than average deal. If you have patience and good negotiating skills, it's possible to get a much better than average deal, but obviously dealerships aren't going to make a sale that doesn't benefit them in some way or another
What cars are you looking at OP?
>you can't get a company to lose money on a deal so why bother negotiating at all
I would like to be your go-to guy for buying everything
Dumb tripfaggot
>Buy private party and don't be a retard that buys a new car.
Fun fact, I did that already and I got fucked with massive repair costs and the car is still having trouble to this day.
If I had all the time, tools, money and a garage to work on a used car, I would but I need something that won't break down on me in the first 5 months of owning it because I really don't have the time for bullshit to interfere with my career.
Honda Civic/Accord
VW Golf
Mazda3 or 6
Toyota Camry/Corolla
Subaru Impreza
Yeah I know, nothing fancy or impressive. I just need a DD that will be cheap for the next 5 to 7 years. Once I make more money/pay off loans and save, I'll get a dream car.
His trip should go in your filter, but here's some realistic advice for you OP:
Car dealerships can fuck you over too, they're less likely to but it's not uncommon.
Buy a 5-6 year old private party car, get a pre-purchase inspection, and do research on common faults, complaints etc. on forums for the model, that way you know what to check for, a 5-6 year old private party car should also come with a dealer maintenance history every time, and you should check the VIN in the VIN threads we have here, to see if they turned back the odo or if it's been in an accident.
You will likely save about 1/3rd of the cost of going to a dealership, and if you plan on getting a decent car worth 15k or something that's quite a good amount of money.
Judging from this post: I think you might want to get a Mazda3 or a Corolla, maintenance costs and depreciation go waaaay up if you get a midsize sedan like the 6 or the camry.
If you intend on sticking to the sub 5k price bracket, definitely don't see a dealer because that's where dealers fuck you the most, those are the cars not worth repairing, sold to the people with the least amount of funds which statistically means they're less likely to tell the dealership fuck you if the car turns out to be shit after the sale.
the price of the car is the price of the car. if you can't afford it, take your ass to CL.
-Civic/Accord & Corolla/Camry are high turnover cars, so negotiating on one will be a bit more difficult.
You wanna hit up a dealership near the end of the month, and you want to catch one that HASN'T made its sales goal yet, and thus has some motivation to get extra units gone. If you really wanna drive at a deal, you wanna go for something with an unpopular color, or even better an unpopular color paired with a manual (think a senior citizen beige manual Camry)
With cars like these, you have to catch a dealership that's in a bind, or catch a car that's been hanging out on the lot too long because of some extenuating factor. This is where patience comes into play, in that you can spends a few weeks (or months) keeping tabs on local dealer's inventory to see if they have anything that's been hanging around for a while
Don't go to the dealership until you are ready to buy, and already have your own financing in line (or at least a financing option you can live with). Then you can blitz them. Focus on the out the door price of the car only. Don't get caught up on monthly payment. Everything is negotiable, and don't forget it. And always be ready to walk away from an offer if you aren't 100% satisfied with it