/hsg/ - No One Makes the General Edition

I just need to hit rank 5, I don't need future potential; I'll mess around with weird decks once I achieve that. Since I get 300 dust back this month alone and I can't afford a 2000 dust deck I think it would be worth it IF I can reach rank 5.

I'm going to craft this if it's enough to get me there, but just how good do I need to be to achieve success with a deck like this?
Should I craft another highmane and crawler, or make any other changes?

Only if it summons 1/2s. Druid has too many tools to pump them cheaply.

>Can we add these tips from the last thread in the general? looks very useful for starters
no, fuck them

>Stay away from ranked till you have a decent deck to play with
Why wouldn't they get to 20 for the back and free golden rare?

How do you figure? From a mage's perspective, I guess: Blizzard, Volcanic, Flame Strike

Warlock has a lot of 3 damage AOE, plus felfire, priest has light bomb and dragon fire, hunter has LOL, most of Warrior's is 1 damage, then 3 with sleep with the fishes, so we can call that combo 4. Shaman has 3 with lightning storm high roll, then whatever you want to call volcano.

Anyway, no, 1/5 is fine, it just needs to be 7 mana at least, so they can't get more than 2 buffs. At 5, it can be comboed with bolster turtle and mark, or 2 marks and power of the wild, etc etc. It's just too flexible at the 5 mana cost. Compare it to the 5 mana that summons 2 1/2 poisonous spiders. It's a fucking joke.

It should read 7 mana: summon 3 1/5 scarabs with taunt.

That would make it unplayable.
Honestly, they should never have printed that card.

One of the draw backs of ramp and cheating the curve it the lack of a good board clears and lack of card advantage and printing UI and SP shows how out of touch Blizzard are when it comes to knowing how their classes function.

probably meant to play ranked after getting all the basic cards

What's a good Hearthstone bot?

This game is not fun without cards, grinding takes too long and I'm not giving jews my money.

It should have never been playable in the first place senpai. Druid should absolutely not get anti-aggro or board clear. They need a weakness if they are going to cheat the Mana curve.

I don't care if it's unplayable. In fact, that's kinda what I meant to do, since I wanted to put it on the poison spider power level. Even at 7, summoning 3, it's still stronger, since it can save you from a Van Cleef for a second. The 1/2's can be dealt with easily or ignored by comparison.

Druid did not need to get so many extremely playable that made already existing playable/borderline playable decks exponentially stronger.

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Cute card, but it'd be pretty worthless in the current meta. Too weak to common sweepers, and too slow. Make it a 1/2 and it goes a long way.

I don't care if it becomes unplayable. I care when Blizzard prints stupid ass cards and then make them unplayable (after monitoring for 2 months) mind you because of their incompetence and how they are allowed to get away with it TIME after TIME after TIME. It pisses me off how such a company can be rewarded for such incompetence.

HS is a casual game, threat it as such cause they sure do

>sir, almost all the top decks are druids
>the players just haven't figured out the power of the MEAT WAGON yet!

HAHA

BASED BRODE DOES IT AGAIN AHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

What's a good first deck to work towards to as someone who just started?

I seem to be having a lot more success with decks which shit out lots of cheap minions, empower them and crush early.

A casual game can be fun and balanced as well. Is HS being a casual game the reason they printed Ultimate Infestation or Spreading Plague? No. It is their incompetence and clearly Team 5 is filled to the brim with it. Someone pointed it out? Better trot Ben out and have him do a rap.

Do I still need Jaraxxus in Handlock if I've got the DK?

I made it during WotOG, if that explains anything

How about you faggots stop whining about good cards and complain to blizzard about their consistent inability to release an expansion that diversifies and empowers ALL of the classes? Jade druid is probably the least LUL SO RANDUM XD decks in the game, SP is an interesting punish card with a consistent effect. Should they nerf it to "Summon a random number of 1/5 taunts between 1 and 7"? The problem every expansion is when one or two classes get all of the consistent cards which makes it consistently beat all the retards that are trying to run highlander casino decks that then burst a blood vessel complaining about it here. Druid is in a perfect spot right now, you can play almost any archetype competitively, so why not ask for blizzard to do the same thing to every class instead of going "I LOST TO _____________ IT'S TOO STRONG PLS NERF"

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>Implying people haven't been asking Blizzard to buff Warlock and Druid for expansions
>Implying Blizzard actually buffs cards outside of minor wording and specific interactions

No shit you are going to get a consistent deck when you remove the 2 main weakness of the class.
Go print board clear and heal for hunter. See what happens.
Go print good spells for Warlock and heal. See what happens.
Go print an effective way for Priest to deal with 4 attack minions.

>complain to blizzard about their consistent inability to release an expansion that diversifies and empowers ALL of the classes

Go sit down and make a card game, user. That's not a real thing. I don't like musical chairs balance very much, but it's better than the balance you think you want. Games like that are typicallyu very bland, mechanics light, and rely on incidental advantages over skill to win. Like Smash 4.

>get rank 5
>rewards are worth 505 dust
>get legend
>rewards are worth 550 dust
When will they fix ranked? Getting to legend from rank 5 takes longer than getting to rank 5 from 17, but all you get for it is 45 dust.

>want to play paladin anything
>need at the absolutely very least 3 legendaries, 5 if deck is control

Absolutely epin

>go print _______ for ________ see what happens

They'd probably be capable of going toe to toe with druid, that's what would happen. That was kind of the whole point of my post...

They've talked about how they want to focus on big ladder updates. If I had to guess they may have some small changes later this year and more of the bigger ones coming early next year

Yes and we know Blizzard doesn't do it. When was the last time they did something like that or buff a card? They only ever nerf shit so that is why people are telling them to nerf shit. Because that is all they are willing to do.

>B-b-b-but muh buffs
Are you going to ignore all the people telling Blizzard to make other classes strongers?

You're right, making every class and the game as a whole better is a shitty idea. Guess we'll just print retarded hate cards and nerf everything into irrelevance 9 months after it was a problem. Definitely no need to invest any effort into improving the game because, lets face it, it's just too hard for a small indie company like Activision Blizzard to handle.

Ranked should give gold, dust and packs senpai. But the hungering Jew cares not about player retention or worth.

How many years now has "we're going to change ranked" been on the table?

hitting legend should give you a voucher you can use to add a random seasonal card back to your collection

How did blizzard think that discard lock would ever be a viable deck after playing the warlock kara challenge? Every other challenge is easy as fuck but warlock is just keep restarting until the game decides to discard the dicard cards.

The most OP broken while cheap deck is aggro token druid.
2k dust will get you to legend. Some dude just took a new f2p account to legend in under a day playing (and continually improving as he got more dust) that deck.

I need you to clarify, because it sounds like you're arguing for and against my point at the same time. I am trying to say that their approach to balance should be focused on improving the game, not completely destroying things that people complain about.

My point is that people should make a lot of noise so that their relevant complains are heard. Because frankly Team 5 isn't competent enough to make a balanced game.

I fucking hate Priests

I fucking hate 1 of decks where they have answers to fucking everything and absurd survivability.

Fair enough.

>B-buh bonemare is good
>7 drop that requires you to have a board

totally not a hand clogger, better shove it into every fucking deck xD

Did you unlock Arthas on release date?

>Some dude just took a new f2p account to legend in under a day playing (and continually improving as he got more dust) that deck.
Do you have a link to that?

Dude, yeah, that'd be cool, if the game was just perfectly balanced and all games went well, I'm not saying it wouldn't be, but I think Blizzard does a better job making the game fun to play than you realize, and I think you over-trivialize "fixing" the game. You haven't noticed them subtley dropping draw in hunter without making it OP? Stitched Tracker is a crazy card, and they have a card that gives a TWO mana discount to other minions, and a card that makes secrets FREE and a card that generates more FREE secrets, both of which at PREMIUM stats, and which curve into each other. They've been feeding hunter power cards for a long time now, and do you know WHY it's weak? Because it was a monster of a class, and they don't want that mistake again! They overdid druid, for sure, but this shit IS NOT EASY and it really gets on my nerves when people say

>WHY DOESN'T BLIZZARD JUST PRINT -GOOD- CARDS

Go play ANY other card game. Go! Go now! Play 100 hours of each other card game, play years of Magic and other TCG's, see if those companies do it right. Write your own rules, play them with your friends, see how well you do. Or just bitch and moan about how they're jews and they prefer their game to have an overdominant class, I don't know. It's your life, spend it constructively or don't.

the point is that in aggro mirrors it punishes your opponent hard for trying to outrace you
and as you may have noticed, 3 of the best 4 decks are aggro (or putting it charitably, very face-oriented midrange)

>Aggro
>Turn 7

twitch
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someone could explain how to beat LK as pally with majordomo strat? how am I supposed to kill majordomo on his side of the board t5 (plus his board)?

doomsayer

>aggro vs aggro
>not going to turn 7
maybe if you ever took your fedora off and played a deck that doesn't get eaten alive by a decent curve, you'd notice how bogged down games can get

aggro decks live or die before turn 7 against control (or jade for that matter) because they have to hard mull for the most explosive starts possible

whereas in a matchup of 2 aggressive decks, neither player knows beforehand which of them will have the more explosive opener, so mulligan and play sequence decisions have to be made judging both how good cards are as aggressive tools and how good they are as anti-aggro tools - this naturally slows the game down

I'unno, pyro equality? equality consecrate?

tl;dr you're autistic and sit on Veeky Forums theorycrafting allday instead of playing the game

kys ledditor I'm not reading that garbage, must feel great knowing you typed all that out for me to not give a fuck about your shieldbearer ass opinion

Are pirate warriors not killing/conceding by turn 6 anymore?

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wow

>Shamancuck goes wide
>Spreading Plague him

>opponent kills lich king and fills the board
>SP and anti magic shield

Come on, dude, read the room. No one wants to here about you shutting down a tier 2 deck with your tier 0 class.

>You haven't noticed them subtley dropping draw in hunter without making it OP? Stitched Tracker is a crazy card, and they have a card that gives a TWO mana discount to other minions, and a card that makes secrets FREE and a card that generates more FREE secrets, both of which at PREMIUM stats, and which curve into each other. They've been feeding hunter power cards for a long time now, and do you know WHY it's weak? Because it was a monster of a class, and they don't want that mistake again!
Don't try to defend Blizzard's incompetent by claiming they're justifiably afraid of a hunter meta. If they were actually making hunter bad because they're overcautious, they wouldn't fucking give hunter cards with cost reduction, the MOST BROKEN MECHANIC POSSIBLE

Hunter is suffering purely because Blizzard doesn't know what it wants the class to do. They keep giving hunter these powerful tools for slower decks, which either don't work because slow hunter decks are missing fundamental pieces, or end up seeing dangerous levels of play in fast hunter decks because they're costed aggressively. It's completely retarded. Control hunter does not need stitched tracker. Control hunter does not need corpse widow. Control hunter needs tools to fucking survive, like toxic arrow could have been if they didn't completely destroy its potential. The community can figure out the deck's win conditions from there.

Blizzard just gives us brainless plug-and-play cards that don't have the potential to come together into something more cohesive. They treat the community like retards. And while that may be justifiable for the average player, it's not justifiable for the people who actually design decks, and based on how much netdecking the HS community does the deckbuilders are the only community that matters in that sense. They've had years to observe this and put two and two together, yet they haven't. Fucking idiots, the lot of them.

Suits me just fine, I don't want to grind to legend every month.

>playing quest mage against big priest
>he gets nozdormu from free from amber
This deck is a nightmare to play with nozdormu up, especially when some of the stuff he did on his turn cut the amount of time I had on my turn.

BMing shitters playing petdecks is what I live for

Yeah no shit, that's the entire point.
You don't want to grind to legend because the rewards are fucking shit user.

>rogue ropes me turn one
>just hero powers turn two
>turn three questing into prep into mimic pod into backstab, clearing my board
>have no answer to his turn 3 6/6
>turn 4 swash into wickerfuck meintheass
I feel like you just can't win sometimes.

The quicker Artifact comes out and starts to kill this game, the better. Then maybe Blizzard will make some changes.

>Game that has community wide hatred before so much as a trailer has released
>Killing anything

the builds that run bittertide hydra definitely aren't planning to win or concede by turn 6, since by that point you've probably only had the chance to bash your hydra into one of malfurion's scarabs

and against the aggro druid matchup specifically, lots of times where you're forced to play reactively because you had a slower start but can actually manage to "stabilize" and take the board back with corsairs/freebooters/etc

the games that end by turn 6 might technically be a majority overall but they're not overwhelmingly how pirate warrior plays imo

>240 characters just to call me a redditor
lol someone's mad

Another (You) please

The game will be shit but since it'a valve it will have a MASSIVE audience along with trading through steam it will definitely wake blizzard up and make the start improving hearthstone.

>craft brode-approved meat-wagon death
>reach top 50 on the secret legend ladder

Every non aggro druid runs Swipe and they probably always will

anything to inflate the post count bby

>mfw unpacked 2 of them
Can't wait for the inevitable nerf of this OP machine of destruction.

You could probably get rank 5 with this is you play well, maybe cut a mark for anothr Bonemre

If I see one more scum curve from a murloc paladin

>open 1st pack
>legendary

I mean it's still impressive but fuck

>Play Druid
>Win
>Play literally anything else and hit a Druid
>Lose

boring meta honestly

Holy Light!

He's right tough. Unless one gets the perfect opener and the other just bricks aggro mirrors can last a while.

You get a guaranteed legendary in the first 10 packs now.
You also get a few hundred free gold for the "hidden" quests.
At worst it will take you a couple more days.

>modern warfare 2 boycott

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Aggro v. Aggro is a control matchup of the highest degree.

Oh right, forgot about that.

man i don't remember jaina looking like this

How do I git gut with evolve shaman? I just cannot seem to win with it.

Just crab bro what do you mean you can't?

This "Priest's identity is being dogshit unless he high rolls then he's unbeatable" shit is not good game design

>how do I get good with an effect that can completely fuck me in the ass

You don't "git gut" with a heavily rng based deck user

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Don't remind of this skin user I already fapped today

>thinking blizzard cares about what's good games design
lmao