/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

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Namebrah x epicnamesis Fark Souls stream when?

Fuck you your god is hollowed, your waifu is an anorexic skeleton, and your host is a bitch

I'm coming for that booty

it's 60Int for MLGS due to the scaling

you sound like you spend too much end on your builds. how can you not afford 40int?

>mind your manners
What part of that was difficult to understand?

Is there anything like too much end?
I usually have 30 end and 39 Vigor.

depends on your playstyle. I've got 26 in my hybrids builds and 18 in some full casters.

>≥
Is ShindoL secretly Lucifer?

So what does /dsg/ think of MHW? Thinking of buying one? Since it's in the same console after all.

I'd say he isn't wrong though. In terms of PvE I'd rank the series just same.
In terms of PvP it's Reverse.

Tempted, but I've never played a MH game before.
Heard both bad and good things about the series.

How is the Flamberge? In general.
Secondly, if I apply Carthus Rouge on it, will I be able to bleed someone?

Also, how is the Great Corvian Scythe?

Both will be sharp if that makes a difference.

Reminder that /dsg/ has always been and will always be red territory.
Other phantom colors are welcome, but only if they contain red (purple, orange).
Blue/red phantoms are acceptable but they are not to forget they are but guests and to mind their manners.
Piss and cum colored phantoms ate to be ridiculed and kicked from the premises.
Blue phantoms can stay, I might need a refill.
Take your safe space back reddit

So, who do you think the Furtive Pygmy actually was? And I'm not talking about the species, since it's pretty clear who they are. I'm talking about the OG Furtive Pygmy motherfucker who snatched up the Dark Soul and first brought humanity into the world. Who was it?

Manus makes the most sense to me, but I'm interested to hear other ideas.

>fight adjudicator boss fight
>Stand at the edge of the platform and look down at him with my shield up to suss him out
>he tongue whips my platform knocking me to his feet
>whatever I'll just stab him while dodging his completely telegraphed swings
>my rapier does nothing but I can see his glowing weak point on his head
>climb back up and plunging attack him
>except that doesn't exist fuck me
>climb back up switch to my catalyst and soul arrow his head
>he whips me again through the edge of the floor this time
>whatever run into the corner to chew grass
>his tongue clips through the entire flooring to kill me
Who approved this bullshit, fuck there's a lot of bosses in later games which get flak but this is the first I've seen which relies on breaking the rules of the game world to kill you.

Most likely Manus yeah.

weapon scaling for int/fth softcaps at 40 still, (it's only spellbuff that caps at 60) but a pure int build should go to 60 anyway, and MLGS can benefit from 60 out of the merit of its good scaling anyway.

Just hit him constantly, he'll bow down in pain and you can go ham on his weak spot.
You should have learned this from Tower Knight, so there are really no excuses here.

you know there's a huge machete stuck in his belly that you have to hit?

Cute!

Flamberge is pretty unremarkable as far as greatswords go. Bastard sword R2 is a lot worse than claymore poke.

Nerfed rouge only adds 20 buildup so you won't proc it with that speed anyway.

Corvian Scythe's R1s have the most range out of all of them.
Staggered R1 will be your bread and butter on it, because other attacks are pretty bad in comparison.

The sharp buff makes flamberge basically the strongest greatsword, since it is equal to the claymore but also has bleed.

BUT

The only way to proc bleed is to use it at very low levels, where the sharp buff almost doesn't matter anymore.

So the best way to use flamberge either Raw or Sharp on really low levels (like 16/16 SL25+2) with rouge.

At that point, it has a roughly a 5% damage advantage over claymore, but also with bleed damage.

When you get to higher levels though, flamberge's usefulness drop off and it just becomes a slightly stronger but significantly harder to farm greatsword, since the bleed becomes useless.

>So, who do you think the Furtive Pygmy actually was?

A fourth thing that some intern in a meeting came up with to represent humanity, when they were drafting the script to send to the outsourced company that creates the intro videos, and was never thought about again after the video was complete.

Well that's a shame. I'll probably still use the Flamberge though, since the sheath on the back when using the Claymore is annoying as fuck and makes literally no sense. Autism

Plus I love what it looks like.

the head is a red herring

you're supposed to attack the giant cleaver sticking out of his side, making him fall over in pain.

It's a poorly designed boss.

I haven't fought Tower knight. I beat Phalanx then fool's idol then armour spider, after adjudicator I'll fight whatever the boss of the valley of defilement is.

Waifu thread bois

Prepare yourself my man.

I want to play Dark Souls 3 again.
Since I need a "standard" weapon, do I pick a sword (safe bet), or do I try something else, like an axe?

Are slashes weapons completely useless? I tried one earlier with my best character, still did piss poor damage.

>playing with dozens of different weapons after coming back since I hadn't touched either DLC
>trying out all the DLC weapons
>trying out all the new items
>trying older weapons out
>waste several hundred thousand souls buffing a dozen different weapons up even though I'm only level 60
>can't find anything I really like
>end up just picking up my BKGA all over again
Ultra Damage with good speed. There is literally nothing better.

user how do you deal with that weight, range and stamina consumption?

Same here, but with my Winged Spear and my Broadsword.
The spear is for animals, the sword is for the others.

Pick a SS, axe is probably the most cucked weapon class
>Slower R1 than SS
>Pisspoor damage except for a few exceptions such as DSA and Millwood
>No HA, unlike hammers

And yes, slash is the worst phys damage type.

go with twinaxes

>I want to play Dark Souls 3 again.

Yeah, but I already finished the game with a straight sword, I wanted to try something different.
And while I love spears, they're lacking in damage and attack speed.

Don't you get them late in the game?

Try Curved Greatswords or Hammers. Not Great Hammers, Hammers.

Straigth Swords are pretty much broken for both PVP and PVE. A lot of people make the mistake of spamming R1 in PVP, which will work against retards, but against a decent player, you'll generally want to hit twice, then heavy or just roll away. Though in PVE you can just spam r1 to win.
With the Lothric Knight Sword and the Long Sword being the best.
Plus they're amazing for roll catching.

For just PVE though, most Greatswords are top tier. I'd suggest the Flamberge or the Claymore.
Vordt's hammer is also god tier. As the weapon art staggers bosses if you're in their face.
I play a Debuff build though, which is brokenly overpowered for PVE. Storyteller's Staff and Dohrys Gnawing or however you spell it. Literally just Poison, then spam bleed bombs. Which shreds all bosses.

For PVP only, the best weapons are generally the weapons you feel the most comfortable, but as always, there will be exceptions. Most Straight Swords are crazy good. But again, LKS and LS are best. With great damage, range, speed and weapon arts. One for Hyper Armoring through attacks and dealing huge damage. And the other for INSTANT shield destroying.
Greatswords with Straightsword Stance are also amazing (claymore and flamberge).
Spears are also pretty good since the range just allows you to stay at a distance if you're good.

Right. you could CE them once you hit the requirements

I guess I just got used to it. When I got back onto DaS3 though, my friend gave me a Havel+3, Favor+3, Prisoner's Chain and Chloranthy+3, which are hilariously overpowered.

Fine for hammers at first, and straight greatswords later in the game, then.
What about regular curved swords?

I don't intend to play PvP, to be honest. I'm all in for jolly cooperation, but Dark Souls 2's AI phantom completely turned me away from PvP.
>I'd suggest the Flamberge or the Claymore
Sounds good too, I remember the flamberge looking cool.
>the best weapons are generally the weapons you feel the most comfortable
That's precisely why I want to try something different : I finished the game with just 4 different weapons (not counting the Storm Ruler), and it feels like a waste since there's a shitload of weapons.
Don't try to sell me any spear, I'm already a fan of the spear from Dark Souls 1 to Dark Souls 2, and only ascended to the Winged Spear in the third game.

CE? Chaos Enchant?

Cheat engine, if it's pc

It's on PC, but it would defeat the point.

>Sounds good too, I remember the flamberge looking cool.
Well, you're in luck because if I remember correctly, it's slightly more powerful than the Claymore.

Other than that, do you like spells? A faith or pyromancy build is great fun for PVE and Co-op. And faith even got a buff recently, and the new spells are god tier.
If you get 12 int and 25 Faith, you can shred practically all bosses with Storyteller's Staff weapon art (stronger than regular poisons by about 3x more damage, almost making it as deadly as toxic). And Dorhy's Gnawing, which got a buff a couple patches ago to make it faster. These two will carry you through early game easy as fuck. And when you get to end game and DLC's, you'll have access to one of the greatest miracles. Lightning Arrow, which is almost unpunishable.

Yeah, I looked on wikidot, that's the one with the waving blade.
>Other than that, do you like spells?
Not at all, but I might try a sorcery run one day. Three fucking games and I think I can count on one hand how many spells I used.

Despite having them all in my collection.

Oh wait, nevermind, I'm actually a retard.
>I thought I finished Dark Souls 3 because I beat Ariandel and called it a day, then deleted the game to save some disk space
>completely forgot about the gravetender, and the Ringed City expansion
I'm not done yet.

what point? enjoying a weapon a bit sooner because it's locked in late-game?
it's not like you're beating the game with crucifix/splitleaf like some people do

More like "I have no self-control so if I start using CE, I'll put my stats to 999 and it'll defeat the point of trying different weapons since they'll oneshoot everything".

>Don't you get them late in the game?
not if you kill dancer early and farm that nigger in the castle

Ahh, alright.

You could try Onyx Blade as well. Almost noting has Dark Defense. It's probably one of my favorite looking Greatswords. Has the Claymore moveset, but is the longest greatsword. And it's weapon art is a buff, which adds even more pure dark damage.
And if you level int and faith together, if you find something that has dark defense, you could just infuse a weapon with chaos. Which will help, since that also scales with int and faith.

My pyro has zero spells and instead relies primarily on this weapon. It's fucking hilarious being a Pyro but as melee.

>if you kill dancer early
That's a big "if", user. I'm not joking, when I fought the Dancer, I had a hearstoke. I'm dead serious.

The Onyx Blade... You one you get by killing Edgy McFuckOff from the Painted World? Sounds good.

Dancer is piss easy, even in the early game.
>kill bordt
>get 5 levels from yoel and buy dark hand
>spank dancer's ass

>A big "if"
Just get dark hand

>spank dancer's ass
No you speak my language.

>beating the game with crucifix/splitleaf

I beat it with crucifix the other day; it's ridiculous how it staggers nearly everything to death, even bosses.

Realistically speaking, what weapons are viable in PvE?
I assume the daggers and ultra greatswords are useless, given their short range and slow attack speed, but on a case-to-case?

>he invades
>but then he rolls and runs forever without trying to fight
explain this
waiting for another ?

Either :
- trying to be friendly,
- trying to lure you somewhere,
- waiting for another ghost.

The first one is improbable.

About to go NG+ in DS2 for the first time.
I think I got everything covered, but could you remind me of things to do before NG+?

>using nerfed weapons

Mmm... Check the traders' inventories, they change in NG+. Enemies have more HP and deal more damage, so don't get cocky. Play safe.

>defeat the point.
Not particularly, unless you also get it to high upgrade early. Weapons in Dark Souls are balanced in a way that items found later are not upgrades to the ones found earlier, this isn't TES. Hell, one of the best weapons in the game across most builds is the bog-standard Longsword.
Consider this. What difference is there between spawning one with ce and getting someone to drop you one? Other than it uses 3rd party programs, what is the difference? It has no effect in the game other than getting to have your fun earlier. The only negative is being afraid of bannu, but it's 100% safe

Also, particularly for the twinaxes, there is a fatso shortly after dancer

>completely telegraphed swings
I might be wrong here since I'm fairly new but doesn't telegraphed mean that the attack follows you as you are trying to side strafe/back step?
If I'm correct how are the Adjudicators attacks telegraphed, I mean his swings land where you stold 10 seconds ago when you sidestrafe, this bossfight is ridiculously easy imo

>they nerfed THE LADDLE

>Weapons in Dark Souls are balanced in a way that items found later are not upgrades to the ones found earlier
I know, this is why I've been using the same weapons the entire game and also why I play Dark Souls to begin with. Even if some damage types are more useful than others.

>What difference is there between spawning one with ce and getting someone to drop you one?
I just find it more interesting to get it yourself. Like, to pick TES's example, you're never some scrub, you always have a destiny or some special power to give you an advantage over the enemies.
In Dark Souls, you can literally start from just using a big stick to be a full, armed-to-the-teeth knight. That's what I like.

is this the most "gib mummy gf" character in the series?

I'm currently using the Black Knight Sword 2h with a quality build and it's amazing.
A slightly shorter greatsword that's just super fast, it quickly became one of my favorite weapons.
Still have to try out the ringed knight twin greatswords

>Even if some damage types are more useful than others.
Not so much in 1/3 and even if they were, it's not like this particular damage type is only available that far into the game so you're cheesing enemies by using it much earlier
>I just find it more interesting to get it yourself.
More power to you but then you shouldn't complain about it being "lategame". If the choice is between cheating in the item and getting bored halfway through because you've already done this route a million times, I prefer cheating every time.
>goddess of fertility
LITERALLY made to breed

How do I defend myself from invaders in dark souls 3?

I really don't mind dying but people are killing me pretty easily and its actually quite embarrassing to not be able to put up a fight.

Right now I am level 112 and I typically use yhorms great machete or millwood battle axe. My stats right now are like 66 strength, 20 end, 20 vit, 20 vigor and 22 faith I think and like 13 dex. Roughly.

Anyway, is yhorms great machete even a good weapon? I feel like when I get a solid hit, its still just not enough because I can't follow up because people can roll out of the hit.

I also don't know how to chase people down and apply pressure so they can't heal when they run away. What are some general pvp tips that will help a person who typically PvE's defend himself from invaders? Again, I don't mind dying to them but I hate being a push over.

>Not so much in 1/3
Dunno man, I remember the spear being almost useless in Dark Souls.
Standard and strike damage in general seems to be more useful than thrust or slash.

And I wasn't complaining, I was just noticing. We all have our own way of playing Dark Souls, mine is to strart from the bottom of the barrel so that I'm happy to even find some old chainmail, you have a different one and it's okay.

>Weapons in Dark Souls are balanced in a way that items found later are not upgrades to the ones found earlier
>and also why I play Dark Souls to begin with

you'd fucking love armored core

I tried Armored Core on Playstation as a kid.

I have bad memories of people screaming at me in a language I didn't spoke, starting a mission without any lock-on system because I fucked up, and spending more on ammo and repair than I earned.

I want to breed Gwynesis! !

>wait what, you say i can do anything in this game with best build variety and freedom of choice?
>*googles "das2 best build"*

>How do I defend myself from invaders in dark souls 3?
Don't use embers.

>I really don't mind dying but people are killing me pretty easily and its actually quite embarrassing to not be able to put up a fight.

>Right now I am level 112 and I typically use yhorms great machete or millwood battle axe. My stats right now are like 66 strength, 20 end, 20 vit, 20 vigor and 22 faith I think and like 13 dex. Roughly.
Stats are just there to support your strategy/build. Learn to use the weapon you're using first, then worry about optimizing stats for it.

>Anyway, is yhorms great machete even a good weapon?
Some weapons are better than others because they do more damage or are easier to hit with, but experience and practice matters 100x more than your choice in weapon.

>I also don't know how to chase people down and apply pressure so they can't heal when they run away.
This is a legitimate problem with DS3 and there's not really many ways to avoid it. Your best bet is to actually try to kill them in a way where they can't or won't heal. A classic tactic is to chip their health down to halfway, so that they don't quite use an estus flask, then do 2-hits of a very powerful weapon to bring them down to 0 health. Or you could pressure them (invaders have half the number of estus you do) into drinking all their estus by trading damage, so that you have an advantage.

>What are some general pvp tips that will help a person who typically PvE's defend himself from invaders?
Humans don't act like NPCs. There's no gimmick to beat them, you have to deliberately wait for them to make a mistake, and then exploit it. In the case of DS3, there are very few mistakes that can be exploited because of how the game is more in favor of casual players, so most battle are just wars of attrition.

You generally do however want to focus all of your levels and build around a single few set of strategies and practice them until they work.

git gud

the playstation 1 games are hot pieces of seizure inducing clunky noisy mess though, later games are better

That's the thing, I don't have the Playstation 2. Or the third. Or the fourth.

And I doubt they came on PC.
If I played it now, I would probably at least understand why some weapons consume ammos while some others don't. Trying to play a game in a foreign language is a challenge.

PS2 emulation is shockingly good

you're not stealing money from anyone by emulating a 15 year old game that wasn't even directly sold outside of Japan (only localized through third parties) and is no longer in production by a company that has since been bought out.

>giant robot
ONII CHAN
I AM GETTING HARD

Where do I get started? Don't I need a bios of some kind?

pcsx2.net/

Any tips on improving this build? I have wanted to stay around 50ish so I don't really want to go any higher. I was also planning on having a heavy longsword just for different situations.

I'd shave off 2 vig for end
CK helm will most surely leave you a gap, try lothric knight
Other than these minor changes, the only think I'd say is not use the bkga
Also, gib calc

maybe swap the shield for a lighter blessed infused alternative.
munch grass and swap chlora and/or havel's for hornet/wolf

The beggining of NG+ is cool as fuck.
>Spawn and take one step
>Immediately get attacked by 3 falconers, who actually use falcons now
>Get through the stone arc
>2 dark spirit goblins jump at me from above

Telegraphed means there's an easily observed tell before the attack comes. You're thinking of tracking where the attack homes in on you.

>actually use falcons now
You mean falchions?

No, they use falcons. They also have an unique weapon you can't get because fuck you

No, actual falcons.

Brb reinstalling DaS2.

soulsplanner.com/darksouls3
check the Useful PvP data doc for more stuff