Just need something cleared up
>Why does the Turks and Norman Stone deny the Armenian Genocide?
>Why does the Japanese reject the existence of the Rape of Nanjing and comfort women?
>How did the Tienanmen square massacre and the former popularity of falun gong suddenly be forgotten by the Chinese people?
>Why is the Holocuast denial big in the middle east?
>And why is negationism illegal in some countries?
Has it left to any good at all?
>Just need something cleared up
>>Why does the Turks and Norman Stone deny the Armenian Genocide?
Dodging responsibility
>>Why does the Japanese reject the existence of the Rape of Nanjing and comfort women?
Dodging responsibility
>>How did the Tienanmen square massacre and the former popularity of falun gong suddenly be forgotten by the Chinese people?
PRC denying it to dodge responsibility
>>Why is the Holocuast denial big in the middle east?
Nazis trying to dodge responsibility
>>And why is negationism illegal in some countries?
Lack of responsibility
>Has it left to any good at all?
Responsibility is overrated.
>Has it left to any good at all?
History forgotten or denied is history to be repeated. As Hitler said; who remembers the armenian genocide as he embarked on his carnival of death and destruction.
Because people like safe spaces and admitting that their ancestors were murderous assholes is out side of that safe space.
In the case of china, It was almost 30 years ago, more than enough time for the majority of the population to have never been taught that it happened.
In the case of the middle east, its becuase Islamists as a whole have to have someone to collectively hate, or they'll kill each other, and even that isn't enough.
>Turks were gud bois who dindu nuffin
>Japanese were bud bois who dindu nuffin
>Chinese propaganda
>a lot of Muslims (not all) hate Jews (if I were to guess why it'd be because of Israel and just general "you don't follow our faith" bullshit)
>negationism is stupid and should be banned everywhere
Norman who?
Nobody denies the Armenian genocide. It's some semantic thing
The holocaust is gay and nobody believes it.
Norman Stone, a Turcophile turned Russian historian. Author of the brilliant Eastern Front 1914-1917, but like OP says, denies the Armenian Genocide.
Most importantly, why do Liberals deny the native american genocide?
>How did the Tienanmen square massacre
They never did. It's just that Tienanmen square was hyped up by international media as some Berlin Wall moment in China when the whole thing was just in Beijing. The rest of the country did not give a shit.
In addition the objectives of the Tienanmen protesters was balkanized. There students who joined in thinking that it was a protest for Democracy, there were Maoist Hardliners thinking it was to return old style Maoism back and that Deng was the fucking devil. As a result, the Chinese public saw it as a riot as opposed to some political movement.
>The falun gong
Literally a dangerous cult in China. The average Chink hates it. The group had the potential to be some sort of Yellow Turban/Taiping Rebellion style movements of weirdo cultists hyped in extremism to start killing people.
God, new ones are replacing it. Read up on the Church of the Eastern Lightning. Basically Taiping 2.0, this time Jesus was reborn as a Chinese woman.
>Armenian genocide
Nobody denies it, it's a semantic thing
>Rape of Nanking and comfort women
Vastly exaggerated
>Tianmen square
Was an anti Dengist/pro-Mao protest. Mao was US aligned which is why there was so much pro US imagery.
>Tibetan genocide
Entirely baseless.
>The hoaxocaust
>Negationism illegal
As a sort of reverse psychology thing where all the liberals can show how liberal they are by harassing people stating obviously true facts.
>Was an anti Dengist/pro-Mao protest.
Definitely were elements in there.
But most of the protesters were people that wanted governmental and party reform, as well as minorities that wanted western style democracy, and other groups that wanted old Maoist/Stalinist Communism.
As for Mao being US aligned, that doesn't explain the anti-US and pro-Soviet rhetoric that characterised the pre-1960s era, as well as the fact that Mao being seen as pro-US is a ludicrous claim, due to the fact that it would have been incompatible with Party propaganda.
People are not a valuable resource, they are easily renewable and for a century now very abundant.
Killing a man should be less of a crime than throwing a car battery into a river.
No it wouldn't. Not after 72.
They do?
Funny how the west managed to spin Tienanmen as some 1776 freedom revolution when it was a protest against the liberal economic policies being implemented
Wasn't it mainly a result of inflation which had spun out of culture and the students believing the pace of reform was too slow?
It was half opposition to Dengist reforms, half opposition to black people going to their universities.
>Middle East
>Nazis
Retarded or illiterate
>black people going to their universities.
That was in 1986 in Nanjing, not Beijing. And those protests happened because Beijing refused to accept African students and sent them all to Nanjing.
No but their bad because women only fuck niggers
Because people are irrational. What I mean by that is, when you admit you did something wrong, you end up looking vulnerable. Strangers will attack you for it, and hold it against you forever because it makes feel good to be "above" you. Where as, if you keep denying it, those strangers will eventually give up. You can look at how Germany is today compared to Japan or Turkey.
Look on the bright side, if there was no Armenian genocide than there'd more Armenians today.
I think the resettlement of native tribes was one of the best decisions a president ever made. Also, liberals don't ignore it. They get frothing mad when someone suggests that the Native American population were anything but perfect saints who were picked on by the mean white man.
>I think the resettlement of native tribes was one of the best decisions a president ever made.
>The Five Civilized Tribes had become Christianized, economically prosperous, productive members of American society
>Decide we want their clay and move them to Oklahoma
>They turn into impoverished, alcoholic, suicidal welfare leeches
Yeah that was a great decision right there.
>You can look at how Germany is today compared to Japan or Turkey.
Rehabilitated and in union with politically and culturally closely tied countries, as opposed to surrounded by countries full of resent and animosity that are in a seemingly neverending cold war that will probably only end in a hot war with you?
Yeah, I agree that it worked out great for Germany. Sucks that the Japanese and Koreans will apparently never be able to reconcile peacefully like the Germans and Poles did.
Israel denies the Armenian genocide as well because its not in the political interests of Israel to admit a historical fact.
>It was half opposition to Dengist reforms, half opposition to black people going to their universities.
There were black people in china in the 80s?
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The Chinese government allowed many Africans to study in Chinese universities free of charge throughout the Mao era and the Deng era because the CCP saw it as helping non-Westerners who were oppressed by colonialism.
>Why does the Turks and Norman Stone deny the Armenian Genocide?
I do not know who Norman Stone is, but the actions of one ottoman military commander who took a lot of liberty with his orders to "stop those terrorists on our Eastern border while we are also fighting the Russians" should not fall into the responsibility of the Ottoman/Turkish state, and even less their people.
>Why does the Japanese reject the existence of the Rape of Nanjing and comfort women?
I honestly don't know. However, I guess that there was a lot of chimping out by Japanese farm people in the army raping chinese farm people and the military high command could not stop it so they just thought fuck it and went along. Perhaps, admitting that they "lost control" over their own units is the greater shame?
>How did the Tienanmen square massacre and the former popularity of falun gong suddenly be forgotten by the Chinese people?
Stupid commie students want a more commie government and get mowed down after someone chimped out. Wow, young people are dumb and impulsive, totally noteworthy, never forget, more news at 10.
>Why is the Holocuast denial big in the middle east?
cough, Israel, cough
>And why is negationism illegal in some countries?
I had to look up the term, but I guess it is because the national governments want to reserve the right to declare what a "genocide" is and not face numerous lawsuits by private people and other institutions whenever they change their mind.
>Has it left to any good at all?
I dislike it since it seems to trample on the very principle of freedom of speech and thought and even implies forbidding discourse.
But maybe it has saved some governments a few lawsuit fees. If you count that as good.