Looks like the Tesla semis are going to be making real-world trips pretty soon. Neat!
>"First production cargo trip of the Tesla Semi heavy duty truck, carrying battery packs from the Gigafactory in the Nevada mountains to the car factory in California"
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I can't wait till these are used by all companies and truck cucks lose their jobs.
truckers should be happy. No-driver trucking is still a good ways off. And hey, trucking will be a pretty sweet job in the interim period between full autonomy and semi autonomy. You'll just sit in a chair and take a nap / read a book when the truck does the driving.
why does it have a snout though? Is it a cabover like yurotrucks?
I wouldn't exactly call it very snouty. Besides, it has a low cd, and there's a tiny frunk in the front too.
>battery transport from Gigafactory to assembly currently occurs by rail, easily the most efficient way for the quantities involved
>BUT HEY, ISN'T IT MUCH BETTER TO REPLACE EVERY TRAIN BY A HUNDRED TRUCKS?
>people actually eat this shit up and believe it's a step forward and not three steps backward
>it is a good way to test the semis while also doing a useful job
>they already plan to have the semis be cheaper than rail in certain situations
don't be dumb you stupid pepeposter
They aren't autonomous
>they already plan to have the semis be cheaper than rail in certain situations
Yeah, in situations where rail doesn't exist and semis are already used. But large scale transport belongs on rails, nowhere else. Why the fuck does Musk hate rails so much?
if large scale transport belongs on rails, why are there 3.5 million truck drivers employed in the US? Logistics isn't cut and dry like you think. In fact, even with rail elon says that the problems they have moving product from GF to fremont are massive. he even floated the idea of tunneling directly from the gigafactory to fremont to just move stuff back and forth.
>he even floated the idea of tunneling directly from the gigafactory to fremont to just move stuff back and forth.
If anything this only proves that Musk is a megalomaniacal madman. Half his ideas are completely nuts and get scrapped eventually, and the other half only get realized after massive delays and failures. Why do you people keep falling for his insane pipedream announcements?
>even with rail elon says that the problems they have moving product from GF to fremont are massive
ya cause he is an expert in logistics. If he was half as smart as he and his cult like to think he is, he would have built his entire manufacturing idea on the same plot of land. No logistics=no problems=no money spent
Are the interiors a horrible blank shell with a seat and an iPad glued to the dash like the rest of the Tesla shit?
tunneling speed and cost is exponentially proportional to the diameter of the hole you're making. With electric vehicles, you can have much smaller tunnels as there is no bulky ventilation system needed. It isn't as silly as you think
two screens now!
Fuck off, Cactus
there are some videos on YT of people checking out the interior at the reveal. Looks pretty comfy; huge amount of glass in front of you
The end of ICE is closer than that
>when you realize that most truckers are contractors that own their own trucks and just haul the trailers for a company.
no one is going to shell out the retarded amount of money for these when a regular semi costs less to maintain, less to buy and the fuel is a non issue since it gets charged to the client anyways.
>Gee Elon, why does you mom let you have 2 screens?
Honestly though, that's not too terrible. Better than I expected. I'm sure the visibility will be nice.
The difference isn't as great as you think. Also his announcements of wanting to drill tunnels under LA ten times as fast as the established global expertise in tunnel drilling and ten times cheaper are nevertheless absolutely mentally deficient.
>carrying battery packs from the Gigafactory in the Nevada mountains to the car factory in California
Are those batteries gonna power them the entire way?
>single seat in the middle so you can reach neither door without getting up
>all that cabin space wasted just on getting around because for some reason the doors are BEHIND the seat, not next to it
>no bed anywhere
Has this retard ever sat in a semi truck?
PRAISE THE LAWD WE GETTIN TRIPPLE TRIPS IN THIS THREAD
HALLELUJAH
>Are those batteries gonna power them the entire way?
Tesla cucks buying used batteries at new battery prices! BTFO!
>no bed anywhere
seeing as the truck can only go to the neighboring town (or 3 blocks in winter) it won't really need a bed.
Will you fuck tards shut up about that? I want you to show me at least ONE Tesla that had to gnjklsajk fjkajgk kfasnkjf get it's battery changed.
Yeah we should just build railroad tracks to the backs of every single warehouse and store in the country.
>truckers being able to read
>Sid Meier begins to sweat profusely
But can they backup into tight areas and make it out of jackknifes on their own? If they can then they are better than most truck drivers.
What part of large scale transport don't you understand? I don't expect any dinky little manufacturer accumulating a truck load worth of wares a day to use rails, but if you need to send dozens or hundreds of trucks a day on their way all to the same destination then maybe you should consider using trains instead.
>why does it have a snout though?
For crash safety I would imagine.
it literally can't jackknife. Onboard computer does't allow it and will cancel driver inputs if it detect a jackknifing scenario
Why does it have a cab then?
and hooker storage / aerodynamics
It's not autonomous
gotta pretend you can drive it somewhere, otherwise people will figure out this scam too early.
it has all of the hardware for when autopilot can, and when legislations allows for, full autonomy though. One detail Elon showed off in the reveal is automatic convoying with multiple Tesla semis - they all drive together like a non-connected road train to reduce the drag
It's obvious you don't know anything at all about logistics. It would be significantly more expensive to load the batteries onto trucks, take them to the rail yard, load than onto trains, and unload them again at a different rail yard, and trucked again to the factory.
Have you ever seen a map? Do you know how far away Nevada is from California?
imagine being this mad lol
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Too bad it's illegal to convoy
>scam
so.. all of these companies are falling for the "scam"? I never understood why people think Tesla is a "scam." it just seems like some people don't have any thinking skills, like one of their friends called tesla a scam back in 2012 or whatever, and they don't bother to reevaluate their opinion since then.
one has a failure
>instant multi semi road accident , all operators/supervisors dead
how so? this would be in an autonomy-allowed future anyways, so I'd imagine that law can get changed too
But what if tesla made a tesla brand trailer?
Why didn't that dumb nigger build the plant closer? California business laws scare him away?
>operators
what operators, it would be autonomous
>implying that this is not just brand image virtue signaling to make their companies look environmentally friendly
How significant do you think these numbers are?
huge local incentives, plus some other reasons (lots of sunlight/other stuff). They were shopping around for years before they decided on Sparks NV
They're illegal so it's a useless feature
>/SUPERVISORS
its still illegal to not have someone behind the wheel and, if the multiple recent failures of autopilot tech causing mass public distrust are any indication, it will remain that way
There's a rail connection a mile away from the Gigafactory, a link can be made for peanuts in the grand scheme of things. And the Fremont assembly plant is literally right next to a railyard. It would be ideological stubbornness to NOT use rail at this point.
It's like 200 miles. It couldn't be much closer. But this is also irrelevant and you're wrong.
it shows that companies like DHL, Walmart, UPS, Pepsi, and Sysco are all onboard with the Tesla semi. Do you honestly expect there to be a 20,000 order or something? that would be ridiculous
no shit, that's why the laws will change
Over 16k trucks are ordered a quarterly. Come back with some really numbers, or just come back when they actually delivered one. Or built the first million dollar charge station. It's ridiculous to take those numbers seriously.
You're still having to pay for the shuttling and handling of the trailer, and rail only increases in effectiveness as volume and distance increase. This is low volume and short distance. The only way rail would be advantageous is if they manufactured like a year's worth of batteries and shipped them all at once but this would require facilities to warehouse the batteries which would be way way more expensive than just trucking them over on an as needed basis.
Whatever, the papermill I work at has their own spur and 2 engines just to move cars around
yes they are. They are just using the driver now for some reason maybe they scurd cause a tesla roadster crash is one thing but a semi is another.
great article by a former fleet operator dailykos.com
>The cost of running a rig on diesel is huge, and loaded with variation which can destroy a business's net revenue performance. When diesel hit $5/gal 8 or so years back, every business I knew or worked with was caught in a situation where their costs exceeded their profit. Everything Runs On Diesel is the reality of our civilization, and the variations of diesel costs drive every C-level exec or owner nuts in trying to plan a year’s income/costs/profits, deal with fluctuations in costs due to some bullshit excuse (or real issue such as hurricanes, refinery fires, and yearly refinery shutdowns for maintenance) by the oil companies to raise prices and profits or, you know, political bullshit to squeeze whatever country is in the wringer today. The elimination of diesel to an operator is HUGE for all concerned. Add in the cost in time and money for regular maintenance of the engine and drivetrain of a truck, most of which is eliminated in an EV, and the cost savings are significant. I should mention here, probably worthy of a separate diary, that every warehouse, factory and retail outlet has a huge flat roof that’s just waiting for a solar installation, tied into the grid, and potentially integrated into an industrial-sized Tesla battery pack to facilitate charging station on the loading dock. In the half-hour to an hour a truck is at the delivery point, it can be charging, extending the range. Tesla will offer industrial-sized solar installations and battery packs, on lease, and they may be able to make it financially viable to the building owner and operators.
>Further, most of the container traffic from the Port of LA and Long Beach (the busiest port in the country) is driven to huge facilities outside of LA, to be distributed from there. Trucks run every day and night, hooking up to a container and driven to so-called “inland ports” located in places like Riverside CA, about 75 miles. Trains haul a lot of those containers, but they have to be distributed from there to companies for further distribution. A single rig (with different drivers working shifts) will run day and night, back and forth, LA harbor to Riverside. From the “inland port” the containers are hauled to warehouses and distribution points all over SoCal and to other points beyond. This is true all over the U.S. and many of these distribution trips are under 500 miles.
The projected Gigafactory output equals 12,500 trucks or 5,000 rail cars a year, or 34 trucks or 14 rail cars a day, every day (at base numbers of "battery packs for 500,000 Teslas a year" and "540 kg per battery pack").
lol no.
You know you could sum it up instead of copying the article you linked
Tesla still can't make 5,000 model 3 cars a week
Open autorack cars. Do Yuropoor freight rail companies actually do this?
I thought those were the most important parts of it :l
keep dreaming
Does American auto rail go through dust storms or something?
I hope they come to my country and get all truckers out of their fucking jobs.
These guys are a bunch of filthy trash who drive like maniacs and endangers other cars. Most (>50%) of accidents in roads involve trucks, and because the trucker rarely gets hurt, they don't give a fuck.
We use closed cars.
The sheet metal is perforated. Though it still protects against debris and weather.
What country is that?
Tesla is soy.
kek
>Musk will kill the Teamsters in your lifetime
Jesus Christ, Reagan already did that 35+ years ago. Which fucking sucked, you used to have a nice comfy dedicated route with hometime, decent pay, and you didn't have to work 70+ hours and run like a madman to make money.
Shit user I actually agree
Fuck this shit, build bullet trains already
Kekd heartily user
>It's obvious you don't know anything at all about logistics
The absolute irony of this post
Fbi killed Hoffa.
>scam
>pic shows jake paul’s name but a 0 under reservations
Sounds like someone was scammed
Because auto manufacturing plants are just huge rail depots delivering all of the parts in one end and shitting out cars to be loaded on the trains before they leave
Deemit. It's still going to take a lot of work to get fully autonomous roadgoing vehicles going. There's a lot of variables that a vehicle has to deal with.
You still need a person to verify the material being loaded/unloaded
he claimed he ordered one, but it could have been a joke. Thus being on the list but as "0"
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y not biodiesel
because Tesla only makes electric vehicles. Also, you can make electricity anywhere. You can't make biodiesel anywhere.
Correct
Because the economies of scale for it doesn't exist for producing it yet. It doesn't reduce air pollution.
>public transportation
>america
hahaha lol no, never, sadly
>america used to have the worlds largest streetcar network
>mfw they were all bought up and destroyed by car manufacturers
>Different brake/tire wear/load creates different braking distances
>Tesla convoy becomes pile of trash
>Being this retarded
>Bunch of 1 truck orders
>Yep Tesla sold out
Delivery in 10 years lmao
these trucks will be used for really short distance .... useless as fuck for long trips
It was obsolete and in poor repair because of decades of government ownership. It was either rebuilding it all to meet modern demands, or ripping it out for buses.
you mean triple dubs, idiot
Irrelevant except under full emergency braking applications. The lead truck will break with just enough force. The trailing ones will brake with minimal force needed and super fast computer control.