Okay guys so my life is a nigger right now. After being unemployed for months I finally got a job at a car dealership...

Psssh you are overthinking this. Just do it man it'll be fiiiiiine.

it was obvious that OJ simpson was guilty and he still got off

>Charger SRT downgraded to Scat Pack

You're a socially phobic autist who was hoping to hide behind a screen like the insecure beta male you are. You're the kind of pussy who can't approach a girl at a bar, party, school, anywhere.

100-300 per car would be a piece of piss if you had any sort of charisma or could string a basic sentence together without a backspace button.

But you're an awkward socially phobic little bitch and you're venting your frustration to other nerds who lack personality, dominance, charm, control, poise, or charisma.

>T. Salesman who ACTUALLY makes around 65k/yr

I know most of you guys are young so I'm going to cut you some slack. You don't know any better.

Do. Not. Work at car dealerships. It is the most brutal, ruthless, dog eat dog business model in existence. It's full of sharks (and the fact that you don't seem to notice says alot). Even you are legitimate sociopath who loves working 80 hour weeks they will still find a way to decrease your pay and humiliate you.

Flip burgers. Sweep floors. Fucking ANYTHING but car sales. It's about the hustle. Not cars.

Got me good user

You guys want to hear something funny? A nigger I work with literally stole a customer's driver's license today. Made a copy of DL before the test drive, went back and forth w the customer even though we didn't have the exact car he wanted. Eventually he left and said he'd come back when we got the right car or when he got money, later in the year.

Dude comes back an hour later and says he can't find his driver's license. The sales guy he worked with (nigger) was out to lunch and the manager called him and sure enough, he had this dude's fucking driver's license. So the manager tells him to head back to the dealership.

NIGGER COMES BACK AN HOUR LATER with a bag of food from a store just around the block. I spent the whole time talking with the customer who was actually a really cool dude, and at the end of it he told me if I'm still here when he comes back that he'd buy a car from me but not the nigger salesman he had to deal with

Case in point this guy.

Notice the bullying? The name calling? The complete bullshit? Is that who you want as a coworker?

It's an industry dominated by sleazy brainwashed losers. Most are substance abusers and ex cons who think taking advantage of people is macho and cool.

Yeah I'm not a good salesman what the fuck else is new. I have no problem talking to customers and making friendly banter. The only thing truly holding me back is lack of product knowledge and tactics, but at the same time sales is definitely not for me, yet for whatever reason these are the only jobs I seem to be able to get.

Tell me Mr. Salesman, what kind of cars do you sell, how do you do it? Do you enjoy selling cars to poors who won't be able to make payments?

The dealership I work at offers an extra rebate for people with BAD CREDIT for fuck's sake. If you have bad credit, you'll actually get a better deal than if you had good credit!

the turnover is so high, and almost everyone I work with is a literal brainlet. There's one cool kid there that I get along with, he actually reads books and shit. Most of the salesmen are between 20 and 23. A few are older. There are two chicks, one is young and cute but knows nothing, and the other is a hog of a woman who can't seem to stop talking about her tits. It's like a carnival funhouse, obviously a fucked up place.

bumpingtons

I finally got this, top kek

Give me other ideas on how to fuck w them and get myself fired and still be able to qualify for unemployment. Where I live if I get fired for misconduct (coming in late etc) I can be denied unemployment

The insurance company I used to work for would charge dealerships 2 to 3 times the normal business rate because they are constantly sued for sexual harassment and all sorts of weird shenanigans.

Seems like a fun place to work!

it's fucking gross, a bunch of normie brainlets constantly making sex jokes, feels like high school desu

how about you stop being a lazy prick and work like a normal functioning human being you degenerate scum

One my friends used to work at dealerships he fucken hated it. Would work long hours and constantly be stressed to make his monthly sales quota.

He was actually good at selling though, and would take home a good paycheck but he said it wasn’t worth the time he would put in. 50+ hours where common for him

Don't know if your still around OP.

Basically what you need to do is work your ass off.

Literally 110 percent at whatever task they set you.

Work your probationary period.

Make it permanent.

By this point you should be competent in every task they set you.

If your a competent salesman or floor manager better for you, admin or i.t or phones or whatever.. you get the picture.

Then apply for a new job, with new experience and skills..

Someone should take notice of you either way.

Its a ladder for some user.

One step at a time.

It would be cool if I was actually able to work most of the time at this job. But 90% of it is literally just standing around waiting for customers to walk in. They haven't even given me a desk and a phone yet to make calls to prospects from. It's ridiculous, I've worked a sales job before that was far more professional than this. To me, standing around and waiting isn't really "work".

This is why I'm currently looking for another job. I'd rather have a job in which I work and take home the same paycheck each week than this. It seems like even if I bust my ass I won't earn that much.

Yeah this is my main problem. I don't mind the actual idea of selling cars. I know that with practice I could become really good at it. It is primarily the long hours that really bother me. I have to be there at 9am and work until 8pm. To me this is pretty much bullshit unless I actually become successful and make a lot of money. But if I don't, I'm working 10 or 11 hour days for 8 dollars and 50 cents an hour. If so this would be the lowest paying job I've had since I was a delivery driver in college, and that might've even paid more due to tips. I can't help but feel that I've sold myself short on accepting this job. Also just got my tax refund from last year and if I did quit it would allow me to survive for at least 3 months while I find another job

what the fuck is wrong with you

man up and get good at your job you waste of oxygen

yeah still here, I agree with you, and I do everything they ask and then some. They literally have me go to fast food places and pick up food for everyone. Kind of annoying managing multiple credit cards and cash and I feel like a fucking monkey but I do it.

The only thing I'm not super competent in is the actual selling of the cars, mainly because my product knowledge is not yet up to par. They put so much technology in the new vehicles that it actually is a lot to learn. You'd think they would at least give me brochures or something and say "read this shit" but no, it's just all informal and they expect you to pick it up.

There is also online computer training but no one takes it seriously. pic unrelated

dude read the yelp page I posted. It's a shitty dealership with shit pay. Plus I was fucking bait and switched into the position (applied for Internet Sales Manager, turns out I'm just a regular car salesman). The whole thing does not sit right with me and I feel like I'm being played.

Oh shit user you got a genuine LOL out of me

not op but I can't believe I've wasted 4+ years of my life working at a car dealership. i went from detail boy to 'used car recon. manager' but being around horrible sociopathic people for years has worn me down to nothing and made me depressed and anxious. It was never this bad before the job. So stressed that my jaw muscles tightened up and I could barely open my mouth to eat a mcd's hamburger. My mental health is wrecked (tried antidepressants for 2yrs and it didn't work) and I feel completely hopeless and defeated. And I wasn't even in sales. Quitting the job for neetdom didn't make me feel better, just worse. Please respond with hopeful (You)'s someone.

it'll get better user, thank you for commenting on my thread. You are helping me to make a decision about my own life. Tbh "Used car recon manager" sounds pretty cool and better than being a salesperson.

And the thing is, I don't even think most of the people I work with are sociopathic salespeple. The owner probably is, as are a couple of the managers, but most of the salespeople where I work seem decent enough, they are just a bit on the brainlet side and the most normal normans I've ever met in my life. I legit used to think most of my irl friends were normies until I started working here, now I realize that most of my friends are actually pretty weird and interesting people, even if they aren't an internet autist like I am.

Just imagine being around people constantly making crude sex jokes and talking about the shit they want to buy. Dumping their personal drama on you, etc. As I said, they aren't bad people, but the reality of the situation is upsetting.

If you don't mind me asking, how old are you user?

I'm so fucking glad I'm self employed.

what do you do user? it's my goal to be self employed at some point

so? you do the best you can until you find something better dumbass

28 in one month and a kissless virgin. i can't even begin to tell you the absurdities i've seen at this job. the porter who went vroomSPLAT on his sportbike in front of the used car building and salesmen cracking jokes 'if he was on a harley he would have lived' at the scene while he's in pieces. the detailer who tells you he needs to leave early because his son overdosed and died. the retard porter happy to leave work early, but it's for a his friend's funeral who overdosed. the retard porter asking 'how many times a day do you cum?' the used car sales manager sporting an erection at work and having go to the hospital (too much viagra) The many habitual liars who will spew bullshit to your fucking face. The touchup guy who wants to shoot his mother-in-law without irony and might do it (she recently slapped him). AAAAAAAAAA

That's a bullshit wage. Start looking for another job. But keep working there in the meantime.
1. A little income is better than no income
2. It's easier to get a job when you already have a job

Why don't you apply for a less stressful job? You went from detail boy to used car recon manager, which means you either have some skill, work ethic, or both. You should be able to land a better job no problem.

That is exactly what an internet sales manager is. You're still a salesperson, just typically work inbound leads and sometimes have a different pay plan. If you're a pussy the car business isn't for you. I came into the car business by accident, worked my way up into management, and now I live a very comfortable lifestyle. The work is tough, and the hours are long, but if you can work your way up you can make much more than just about any other career field.

yeah I thought I'd be working inbound leads but I'm not. One day they gave me a list of names and phone numbers to call. First guy I called said he won't come in to buy a car because he is in the process of suing the dealership over the previous car he bought.

I would be cool working inbound leads, but I'm not. It just seems like the margins on the cars are shit and that unless you own the dealership or are in management you won't make shit.

damn that sounds even more fucked up than the place I work at, but not by much. You should write a book or sitcom about the dealership you work out, it sounds funny

Thats kind of true, management does make significantly more but it's possible to still make $6-$8k per month in sales. Once you can work your way up to closer, typical pay is around $10k+ per month. Reach finance and it's more like $15-$20k per month. It's worth it if you can put in the time.

I don't disagree with you, but at the particular dealership I'm working at the best salesmen only made $5k on his best month! I would have to become better than the best salesman who has been doing this for 2 years in order to make that kind of money

I just don't know what to do. I have a 2012 biz degree (it was either drop out soph. year, or pick biz to finish within 4 years) and don't know what jobs I could get with it.
>You should write a book or sitcom about the dealership you work out, it sounds funny
For about three years I kept little sheets of paper in my wallet, and at the end of each week I'd write down whatever funny dumb shit happened on there, because I thought it would be good material. There's a stack of them. I also turned on my phone's voice recorder a few times when there was a funny converstation, my favorite is my boss talking about the 'best whorehouses in the world', the 70s mustang ranch, midget hookers. Lmao

Sorry man, that sucks and I can relate. I'm working a crappy job that is literally killing me but I can't quit because I need the income.

Kid you made no less than four excuses in that angsty little shpiel. This is inherently beta behaviour. The inability to have control over your own path in life and putting up barriers and excuses is why you're not successful.

Hey, if they're buying what you're selling you've done no wrong. You dont like it, move to communist Russia. You act like it's your job to be mommy to these faggot clients with no financial literacy. Typical millenial lack of personal accountability, stop crying that it's everyone else's fault.

>Hur durr people shouldn't have the freedom to make their own financial decisions

What an unemployable little bitch you are. No wonder you can't get a girlfriend.

Funny you call me brainwashed but how many times have you come in half hour late and made a dick joke to your boss before sleeping off a hangover at your desk? As long as you make numbers and they don't have to pay your wage out of their own pocket (ie your commissions outnumber minimum wage) you can do what the fuck you like. And more numbers = more respect so I can basically do what I want here.

But then again we have a different world view... which is probably why I just got laid last night after being in the bar for like 30 minutes. Probably to some instagram thot you fap to. But yeah keep dictating how to live life.

>tfw work in warehouse for $15/hr
don't know why you would bother working in retail or sales

You probably have herpes you fucking roastie enabler. I'm not making excuses, but I also give a shit about society.

Sounds like you are a nigger

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tfw on break at my warehouse job making over $15 with 26 hours of overtime

In his defense, this would be a $9/hour job in some shitty small town and I actually started at $11.

But sales does have much much more potential. I am looking into insurance sales myself.

Also I only made one excuse w was lack of product knowledge. I just started a week ago for fucks sake quit acting like a faggot

I'm no good with talking to other humans so this is all I can do, at least until I save enough to go get a degree or something.
The hardest part about my job besides the labor is the computer not recognizing what I'm saying to it.

See like the other user the problem is you're a bitch. When you sell, you're selling yourself. If you can show the customer that you're a cool, good looking, suave, alpha male, and the suit wears you, who gives no fucks, and you insinuate without saying that you drive car X, they will think that car X will make them like you, and if they look up to you , they will buy. Fundamental sales. You're selling a lifestyle. I'm envisioning a scared little bitch, skinnyfat, low test, can't look people in the eye, awkward in suits, shuffles, stutters, maybe some nerd glasses. The customer will think "oh my god, if this pussy is recommending me a car, then I must be a pussy for agreeing with him". Then they smell weakness and walk all over you. They'll pick on you for the same reason that the kids in school picked on you. You're a little bitch.

Now these alpha males you're jealous of, they were suited for sales and don't cry and whine about a base wage because you feel you're entitled for it. They're given reasonable parameters, this is what you get for a sale, this is what you must sell to be successful, and guess what faggot? They're successful.

Then again, I don't want to discourage pussies and bitches from trying out sales. Nothing I like more than causing some insecure little bitch, hiding behind some gay degree and expecting a wage for doing nothing, to have a panic attack and run out crying his first week. Made one almost cry. Was a funny day.

You're really not making a good case

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At work now, it just feels like they are fucking w me. It's clearly a sink or swim thing but I don't think I'll make any commission money unless I'm a complete baller. It's fucked

Break the rules and sell cars you're not supposed to. Sales is where you get paid big for being a shit bag.

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This guy uses too much coke

He didn't shit on his victims either

GET BACK ON NEO SHITPOST

Nah fuck that noise I'm just a binge drinker.

He doesn't seem real, he seems like a caricature

My dad sold cars for 15 years but he wasnt a scumfuck like you. So did my ex's dad (and he also wasn't a scumfuck). They were "alpha" but they were the kind of salesmen that actually cared about and listened to what the customer actually wants, in order to meet numbers. Building rapport and all that.

in my experience, 9 out of 10 car salesmen are binge drinkers, cokeheads, or both

>Fired
>Unemployment
Fucking NEETs

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Just a typical bus rider
>the absolute state of Veeky Forums

>Cared about and listened to what the customer actually wants

He sounds like a military recruiter too

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aeiou

You needed a job. You got one.

What's the problem?

i dare you to make 2k a month doing no physical labor anywhere else with no education work experience or degree you trump level retard

>I have a DUI
this really surprises me, to the point i think this may be bait.
>. I'm also more of a Ford guy and I'm working at a Chrysler/Dodge etc dealership and have minimal knowledge of the cars
yeah don't worry, you probably won't be workign their very long.

john madden

I made more than this when I did software sales. I was pulling close to 3k per month, more when I met or exceeded my quota

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Only thing I can say OP is that the easiest way to get rich is to be good at sales. Selling cars is difficult, but if you’re good at it, you can make money. Pic related.
I sell cars at a luxury car dealership in NYC (that’s why I get taxed like a motherfucker.) I certainly didn’t start there, I had to work my way up through shithole dealerships, but the experience and your sales numbers are what matter. Money talks, bullshit walks applies here. Do your job, make your numbers, kiss ass, suck dick, whatever it takes. Eventually you’ll have that little cushy fish owl office where you can deal with customers of quality, and net worth. The money is there waiting for you to grab it.

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>39% withholding for ~100k salary before bonuses
Are you doubling that with unearned income, or do you just like a fat tax refund?

Commission and bonus checks get taxed at a different rate than regular income. It sucks, but what can you do. At tax time it works out where I get a nice refund from federal but barely anything from NY State. And the City of New York has its own income tax that I also must pay.

damn yeah that makes sense
I forgot about the different pay structure for salespeople
the available rates for non-wage income like bonuses and commissions are at a discount for people already in the higher tax brackets, but do nothing--or even hurt--people who don't meet or exceed the 25% bracket

Ngl this user is spot on. It sounds like it would be absolutely hilarious to watch from the outside but complete hell on the inside. Hope you make it out, friend

Fuuuuuuuck you

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I recently did some car shopping. It isn't hard to learn all the feature shit. Just spend dune time in the internet. Bunch of salesman are lazy idiots though. I had to tell them the features in the cars they were supposed to be selling me.

If they haven't given you a phone, use your fucking cell.

That said, it can't be easy to sell the shit products Chrysler makes.

my dude you have the easiest job in the world, just talk to gullible cunts and sell your shitty chryslers.

This is the long game. Being a genuinely nice person will get people to come back, especially if they lease the piece of shit. Then you sell the car used.

This is why we need Tesla to crush the dealerships

Funny, this beta is talking about nigger this and that, but you can't keep a job because you have zero ambition, whos the real nigger? 100-300 per car sounds about right. 12 cars would get you around 3000 a month, but if youre a real salesman than sell more, if you sell 20 cars you can make 40k. You have all the freedom you want to use the internet and facebook and drive your own traffic. You're selling someone elses merchandise and getting profit off of it. Work for it faggot. I made pretty decent money using the same pay structure you had

shouldve went to school lmao
youll be working cashier tier jobs for rest of your life

Are you only talking about sales? What about car wash/tech
I started washing cars and everyone working there except management is saying this place sucks lmao

Neck yourself namefag

marry me

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