/xcg/ - XCOM General

>Retaliation with grouped civs+Resistance fighters
>bring a bunch of scanners for faceless detection
>save first group, npc fighters sprint to 2nd group
>When I'm halfway there pic related shows up
>Well shit that 2nd group will have to fend for itself
>While I'm busy with Assassin resistance fighters kill 2 Berserkers, 4 Chryssalids and 2 Spectres, losing only one fighter and 0 civilians in the process
>meanwhile I find out that while Blast shield protects Chosen from direct grenade damage, acid bomb still applies burn and shreds armor
I have a feeling Resistance Fighter will probably get nerfed in the future, they're fucking strong. Enjoy them while we can

what did she mean by this

You named one of your characters Mox's first name?

>"That's a tuna, bro."

Haha this is neat. First mission I've gotten a defector.

Yes

What does it mean when a guy is tired?

So I am watching the VOD, and this beagle guy you guys always talk about just spent 20 minutes choosing the loadout for a mission.

Why is he so famous here?

>waste so much time on dipshit breakthroughs instead of actual tech that I can't keep up with the aliens' upgrades

There goes my best Legend run yet.

It's a nickname but Yes, she's also one of the best specialist's I've had. She got shredder, implacable, run and gun and Rupture

Fuck sneks.

He's not
It's aussie hour and the aussies like to blog about him

>mfw virgin commanders spend 20 minutes selecting loadouts
>not just taking random soldiers with default equipment

Does enabling the tutorial for War of the Chosen showcase the new shit or is it the same old tutorial from vanilla?

/v/ will never get gud, they enjoy complaining too much.

Yeasterday I was watching that admiral bahroo guy play legendary with permanent dark events and he was doing just as well without wasting half an hour to start a mission or ambush or without any LOS break fuckery, just plain old XCOM.

I need pictures

Pictures of THE ELDERS MOST LOYAL CHAMPION

>make friends with reapers
>beam weapon breakthrough
>vektor breaktrhough
>vektor mod breakthrough
>All back to back
Why is the game pitying me

Lost and Abandoned is the WotC showcase mission.

Same tutorial + reaper and skirmisher introduction

...

Bought this game because it's on sale. I haven't kept tabs on it at all but I remember bitching about multiple things, including short mission timers.

Should I go with vanilla campaign or is WotC mandatory?

Used to be he had some energy and spontaneity. which made him one of few regular XCOM streamers who were both entertaining and good enough to learn from.

Then he became angry, bitter Beagle and hasn't been the same since.

WotC is vanilla but better, just start with it. There is also increase timers "second wave" option (advanced settings or something) when you start the campaign.

Any good voice mods that aren't just meme voices? Be nice for other languages that aren't in.

Beags literally can't stop talking about Jamball.

I've seen Jamball streams and she literally never mentions him, meanwhile all he talks about is Alex Jones and sucking Jamball's clit and talking about how awesome she is, this guy is completely fucked.

People were saying WotC handled timers better. Is that with or without that option selected?

>the animation goes right through the ingame model several times
>missed!

Fuck you Ayyyys.

WotC is an overhauled vanilla campaign
Vanilla can be described as formulaic; linear (past the early game)
WotC is a wildcard of emotions; the pacing of the research and boss fights echoes the heart of XCOM philosophy:
>How much am I willing to lose?

>send drone to hack objective from concealment
>decide I'd rather get an ambush off first, take the drone back
>REVEALED!

What? What the fuck?

...

RNG unfortunately.

You can get really good order that makes the timer not run until you break concealment. And there is a ... skirmisher one that adds 2 to every times. But I just ticked the double timer option for my legend run. Too annoyed with the game as is to have to dash everywhere.

>Then he became angry, bitter Beagle and hasn't been the same since.
Correction: "Then he started being a cuck for Jamball"

Damn, so it's just like Enemy Within. Still, I'm not sure if I wanna drop another 40 on the game this early... plus if I buy the expansion later, I have a reason to replay the game.

Thanks for replying anyway but I guess I'll bite the bullet and go with Vanilla first. Am I going to get fucked hard if I go for Hard difficulty first? I played the first xcom quite well but I always took my time and did missions slow so I am unsure how will I handle the new pacing.

>counter Dark Tower event
>assassinate enemy general
>stupid sewer level with no place to maneuver and packs clumped together
>recon his ass on the 2nd turn
>a pod is between him and the pod he's with
>take care of it
>about to ambush his ass next turn
>lol nope, I better run, 5 turns to evac mother fucker
>3 pods triggered
>have to deal with them while his coward ass runs away
>dash after him hoping to get him on the last turn
>fucking Viper kings at half health is there
>general escapes
>mission failed
At least I got the Viper by freezing his ass when he tried to escape, so it's not all bad I guess, but seriously fuck those assassination missions and fuck the tunnels levels

Playing XCOM 1 for the first time right now, are SHIVs worth investing into?

Some playthroughs incentivize your armor and gadgets
others focus down one class
others still help you rush gun damage
Game is pretty dynamic as a result of those changes alone
I can see it potentially having a ton of replay value, although the campaign missions themselves are very high stress, with or without the timers--at least compared to the majority ofvanilla XCOM 2

You've gotta to be quite aggressive right now. XCOM 2 for me is basically "How can I quickly defeat Alien pods in 1 turn before they fuck me and delay me from completing the objective". You've got plenty of assets to achieve it too, so just go full ham, abuse Concealment for scouting and eliminate Aliens in one alpha strike.

Yes

So how long is a turn in xcom time?

A couple seconds at most?

Holy shit my templar just soloed a mission

I do have to ask, what is the goddamn point in using the integrated DLC function?

You can't control when alien rulers turn up other than eventually taking on a blacksite, due to not being able to to take the Valhen hunt mission.

You don't get extra AP from taking on Julian in the Lost Towers Mission as well as SPARK related mods needing you to undertake the mission for some god-forsaken reason.

Oh woo, I have the DLC weapons from the start? They're still shit and I have to waste 10 days researching them if I take them as my first research option unless I'm somehow lucky enough to nab a scientist or get an inspiration, which is still 5 days.

And SPARKS still need elerium cores as well as alloys and supplies, which could be better spent on other shit in the early game.

Somehow by "integrating" the DLC Jake actually made them worse. How the fuck did he even manage it?

Integration really seems to be an afterthought.

tfw bought wotc and then realized most of my favourite mods are still not updated

>Throw an Axe at an ADVENT Captain
>Hits him in the stomach
>Dodge: Grazed!
How?

dodge stat
chance to reduce damage taken by 50%
Enemies with high dodge:
ADVENT officers
Vipers
Archons
Stun lancers

you focus fire these fuckers for a reason

so did you anons play the tutorial of wotc or skip it

Holy shit, it got even better.

One guy has gotten the LW SMG and Laser Pack working, apparently he's moving onto Coilgun pack with vanilla integration next.

A lot of people want him to update the perk pack, myself included - but he's unsure if he can, from the quote on his own steam page the officer mod is difficult as hell to figure out, so the perk pack might be beyond his abilities to do.

A lot of the other most popular cosmetic mods are now working, along with Evac All, Numeric Health Display and other quality of life fixes.

Now I wonder If I uncheck integration do I get Rulers with the old ruleset, like getting turns after reloading or for actions beyond their LoS?

Nope.

Am I crazy or ...

>Spectre on commander
>Shadowbound just disorients when you kill the spectre
>Spectre on legend
>The soldier is knocked unconscious, with no save, no option to resist, by an enemy that has lightning reflexes and I have never managed to score a hit on by overwatch.

Nigga really? Why dont you just instakill the soldier?

I know about the Dodge mechanic, it's just fucking dumb that he dodges an axe to the stomach.

...

Is there any way to "encourage" the AI to patrol into my overwatch traps during Gatecrasher? Every now and then I'll get lucky and the Sectoid and Captain pods will still be patrolling after I'm revealed, but usually they just sit in one spot indefinitely. Not sure what the trigger is to get them to keep roaming.

Why did visual cues become so much worse in XCOM 2? Overwatch misses have the characters twitch slightly to any side and start shooting past the target.
Don't use Overwatch traps.

break los

No, I mean before I've even activated the pod.

You already posted this last thread bud.

That has never happened to me, they usually wake up just fine when you kill the Spectre.

Now I kinda miss old turn based games where bullets had physics and free aiming, like SIlent Storm. You could just spray in general enemy direction and still hit with some of them.

I know, I didn't know that thread was autosaging when I posted it.

Beags uses the "noise" mechanic from breaking windows and smashing doors to get pods to come over to him, but I tried it myself and while the Trooper pod came running along the Sectoid and Captain pod were perfectly content with remaining perfectly still for the 20-some combined turns I spent spamming overwatch followed by inching forward. There doesn't seem like a surefire method for forcing them to come to you, they either choose to be mobile or choose to stay still.

I just did the reaper/skirmisher introduction mission and holy hell, the lost are fun and tense

They get tedious after a while, especially when you get lost world dark event.

I had 5 people shadowbound on legend so far. 5 times unconscious.

Why is Firaxis so obsessed by RNG? Its fucking retarded.

>skip lost and abandoned because i already know what happens and i wanted a randomly generated reaper/skirmisher
>gatecrasher started with a skirmisher already in the squad and JUSTICE has some absurd +hit modifier and only takes one action
this kinda feels like cheating

I mean they get shadow bound and then they go unconscious and as soon as you kill the spectre they should wake up, I'm 99% sure what you're getting is a bug.

>Supply Crate mission with Male Outrider
>Stealthing around, haven't been spotted yet.
>Kill a few lost, Kill a few ayys.
>Spot box, run up to it.
>Mark box.

>Suddenly dropped out of concealment.

What the holy feck is this shit? I can sneak up on ayys, civvies and lost so close I can pick their fucking noses without being revealed but the moment I slap a radio beacon on a box with no one around I drop out of concealment? I call bullshit.

Some modder fix this shit already.

Sounds cool, I'm excited for my second campaign with the different start

>1st ambush mission
>my 2 soldiers running down the road
>suddenly advent behind us
>mad dash up the fire escape into the building
>overwatch fire going off, they miss
>lost comes from the opposite direction
>swarms the advent and starts chasing me up the fire exit
>run through the apartments
>cross into the next building through fire exits
>blow it up behind me so they cant follow
>reach evac
>legit felt like an action movie setpiece, and it was all organic
>or so I thought
>every single ambush mission since then has been the exact same map

this is actually the biggest disappointment I have with the expansion, fuck man that first time was like a rollercoaster, my gut sank when the 2nd one was the exact same.

anybody else had this?

>mission is supposed to be hectic but if you run straight for boxes and mark them you get an easy max box completion
That's like saying its bullshit that you cant melee for a headshot when there are blatant balancing issues

>the absolute state of Beagle right now

>tfw got Inspired Plate Armor right after an Inspired Mag Weapons
This is going too well, is this going to bite me in my ass later?
I just finished the first blacksite too

no hero class on gatecrasher mod when

I did as well. On commander. But on legend they stay down.

>knocked all 3 chosen out in a row

eat shit space ayys

That's annoying. I wouldn't be so particular about it if it wasn't for the fact that I'm almost certain that Gatecrasher has at least one guaranteed hit on a full-cover soldier no matter what, usually on the last pod. Happens way too often.

>>Sneks bully zambies

They're waking up for me on Legend, no clue what's happening with yours.

>tfw you buy new recruits right before ADVENT increases recruitment costs by 100%

>Chosen Assassin shows up on the third Retaliation mission
>She flanks herself by running past my Reaper and next to a huge vehicle
>Current Dark Event is no Chosen weaknesses
>Not immune to explosives so I just blow her up with combined Claymore and Remote Start
>This accidentally killed a hidden Faceless as well
God I love Reapers.

Try getting Templar which has 100% chance to hit and Sectoids are weak to melee.

i thought templars did pure psionic damage though

>tfw you buy new recruits right before ADVENT increases recruitment costs by 100% on the month that you just used the 15 supplies per Rookie cad

I GOT HER TRAPPED IN THE BATHROOM WITH MY ROBOT SHE CAN'T GET OUT

WHAT DO?????

Rend is still considered melee, so if a Chosen gets the strength where they're immune to melee you're kinda fucked. Also Muton can counter Rend.

PUNCH HER

Deploy robo cock

GO-GO GADGET COCK