Arguing writing is one of the worst things ever. Especially when one's opinions are on the way.
I mean, how is it that people think that FO3 and/or 4 have better writing than NV
Easton King
nah
Blake Jenkins
the more open world a game is the worse the writing is
Robert Ortiz
I like NV more than F3/F4 because of more options and opportunities to express your characters. But some aspects of NV writing are dreadful, and F3 whilst linear by it's nature does a lot of things better as far as keeping the pace good and story interesting. You can easily get lost in myriad NV side quests, and forget what the whole mess is about, in F3 you know what's going on in the story at any time.
That being said, using F4 and writing in the same sentence is a joke.
Ryan Wright
Yes actually you piece of shit, I feel physically sick at the prospect you're allowed to share the same planet as me.
Henry Bennett
>Rushed to make a new thread >Didn't put dolphin porn in the OP as asked my.mixtape.moe/mmieqs.7z
Fucking retards
Robert Sullivan
>The point is to not alienate the player for choosing That is retarded, since no other RPG works like that, and also wrong since the entire game world railroads you into a linear sequence of events where you ask about "that guy in the checkered suit" and every major stop.
>This is why FO1, 2, 3 and 4 fail when it comes to player motivation, To get allies, information, and supplies, needed to actually accomplish your goal. The also don't ever tell you where your objective is right from the get go, requiring you to wander around to find it.
>They know what you have been capable of and they want you on their side How would they know that if I snuck past the deathclaws at Sloan, and just reached Vegas without doing anything?
>And you DO have to do work for the factions in NV. Read again, I never said you didn't have to work for the factions in New Vegas, I said you didn't have to work for them to accept you, which you don't. They just accept you the moment you reach Vegas because reasons!
>What? You can make preparations that affect the final battle in many ways what the fuck are you even talking about? Have you played the game at all? Again, read harder.
I said all the things that should effect the battle the most don't, not that nothing affects the battle. -Helping the NCR/Legion take over Nelson/Forlorn hope? Nothing -Help the NCR take out the Legion base at Cottonwood? Nothing -Help the NCR train te Misfits? Only matters in a post game cutscene -Help the NCR communications by getting Hanlon to stop sending fake order? Nothing. -Help the Legion repair their howitzer so they can hit the NCR harder? Not shit
The list goes on, but the number of things you can do to help either side military that change nothing about the final battle when they should is staggering.
But no, what REALLY matters is if the worthless Khans attack or not!
Angel Foster
She's talking to young Shaun isn't she?
Aaron Taylor
she's talking to cait.
Jose Watson
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Ethan Richardson
WHAT THE FUCK? You can't be uploading stuff like that. Am I going to prison for downloading it?
Nathan Baker
Hey Caitfag, are you the one who's been baiting with that ugly SS
Brody Brown
>he downloaded it
Bentley Hall
Everybody should download it, a couple of them are actually really good to have.
Xavier Rivera
YOU FAGGOTS ARE GONNA GET ME VANNED
Easton King
i'm not caitfag, i just happen to like cait.
Zachary Reed
What's with Caitfags making her look anorexic?
Ryder Bennett
if you ever want to distinguish me from the caitfag, there are a few things.
>my screenshots are always on 4k >i use atomic surgery >my screenshots are usually taken from dialogue screens >you can also see dogmeat wearing tacticool armor in my screenshots
she used to be a raider, raiders are supposed to be malnourished drug addicts.
Noah Clark
You forgot
>ugly as fuck character
Dominic Taylor
There's a difference between malnourished and anorexic coma patient.
Owen King
No they aren't. The Raiders ingame talk about how easy their job is because they get good hauls from caravans or are paid off and don't need to worry about much. Only one close to that is Beantown Brewery bandits and they were just too dumb to sell booze for food.
Nathan Anderson
has caitfag even shared his SS?
Lucas Cox
I scanned the New Vegas playing cards if anyone's interested. They're not HD, but they're better than what I've been able to find online. You can clearly make out the text in all of them. The cropping's a real shit show, did it quick and dirty.I have the uncropped versions if you want to do it yourself. Let me know if I missed any and I'll add it to the rest. Cropped- imgur.com/a/vDQaW Uncropped- mediafire.com/file/j3vylzjgevm6h6r/cards uncropped.rar
Cameron Roberts
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Aaron Nelson
Yeah, it's some redhead lady. A little weird looking, but not as bad as bunnysuitfag over there.
Jose Ortiz
It's a 40yr old woman's head on the body of a 13yr old.
Liam Morgan
>.els files can be literally copy/pasted from someone who bought them, to someone who didn't, and work perfectly fine >zero DRM at all
Bethesda has a shitload of misplaced faith in humanity, it seems.
Dylan Hernandez
No, Bethesda just doesn't care.
Same reason they have never had any DRM on any of their productions or DLC despite the fact its literally just ESMs and shit since Morrowind.
They know they are going rake in cash either way.
Jeremiah Green
Just another reason for mod creators to shy away from the CC
>Yeah, your shit is going to be easily pirated. Like. 100% guarantee. Don't look at us to do anything about it either.
Jaxon Lewis
dude weed lmao
Blake Long
...
Sebastian Johnson
Thanks, I've never even seen some of these cards before. >pic unrelated, she's just a waifu
Andrew Adams
...
Evan Gonzalez
How does the charging sniper rifle work? What does the displayed damage actually show, the charged or uncharged shot?
Jace Mitchell
Was it Fetal Alcohol Syndrome?
Caleb Howard
Best mod for crafting legendaries?
Ryan Johnson
Sarah is fine as fuck. >You now remember her atrocious voice acting There goes my boner.
Jose James
Yeah it caught me by surprise how hot she was on her card. Everyone is pretty handsome in the cards. >Nero >Michael Angelo >The king >Cl Hsu God damn
Isaiah Nguyen
Eh, I still think she's pretty good. If she was 100% sexy appeal, she'd be kinda boring.
Charles Sanders
She looks absolutely nothing like that ingame
Daniel Bennett
>every faction just jumps at you once you reach New Vegas
This is the most retarded argument I've ever read. "Every faction" translates to "just the NCR and the Legion", and "once you reach New Vegas" is actually
>NCR
After you make contact with Mr. House. You know, the guy who owns THE FUCKING STRIP.
>Legion
Once you either kill Benny or make him escape with the Platinum Chip. You know, you are so powerful the Legion could use someone like you.
Christian Edwards
I cant start to talk about how wasted everything is. You have all these beautifully thought out characters and you have potato gamebryo faces on them and the voice of a bored E class actor.
Michael Bailey
because everyone is occupied blaming them as the send hitler if the true objective of CC is to give mods to SonyFags who can't fucking buy a proper PC or even a fucking Xbone due to their lazy droning shit, instead they prefer to waste their money in every shit on PSstore
it isn't the 1st or the last time that sony fucks with the industry because of "Filthy gajin needs to be our bitches"
really, every japanese gaming company from kyoto and tokyo area needs to go fuck themselves because of the fucking tradition
Lincoln Wood
aliens
Isaac Collins
Where did you get these in high res?
Joseph Butler
F4:NV please save us.
Matthew Perez
Actually that would be one of the ways we are similar.
ayyy lmao
Xavier Butler
Bethesda ALREADY knows that the ESL files can be pirated, and they will do nothing, the main objective are the sonygros
Mason Brown
They're the 2 main factions. And yes, they do jump at you as soon as you leave the 38. It's fucking weird especially if you've been killing their people up until then.
Christopher Roberts
I own the collectors edition, I scanned them myself with my scanner. I got tired of only having the shitty ones on the wikia page.
Julian Johnson
About that...
Kayden Reyes
Thanks for sharing. You did a good job.
Leo Richardson
>neverever Only the sweet embrace of death can save us unless the devil breaks his leg and we get an official remake in the new engine with new voiceacting in secondary characters etc
Brayden Powell
F4:NV can't save you from flat voice actors.
Jose Price
>And yes, they do jump at you as soon as you leave the 38.
No, they literally don't: only the NCR does, and again, for good reason.
>It's fucking weird especially if you've been killing their people up until then.
Just because it's weird doesn't make it any less logical. Case in point: if you betray them afterwards, there's no turning back.
Tyler Lewis
No problem user.
Owen Rivera
This is why I'll never be fine with MemeBryo or Creation Memengine. You miss on the chance of having every single character having a very unique appearance to them.
Obsidian tried to get past this in Lonesome Road by making Ulysses' face an actual helmet, but still not good enough.
Brody Hughes
Not him, but the NCR has no reason to jumpyou given that they care little for House, and know they could easily topple him once the Legion is out of he pciture.
House himself even admits the only reason why the NCR haven't killed him and taken the Strip is because they don't want to waste men on taking him out while the Legion is around.
The NCR wanting the Courier because he talked to House is like the U.S. Military wanting Robert Downey Jr. because he played Iron Man.
Oliver Campbell
>Blames the engine for bad modelers and character designers I wish this /v/ meme would die already. Let me guess, you think the shitty animations are also an engine problem. Probably the story too.
It's weird exactly because it's illogical. I've been killing them from Goodsprings to New Vegas and now you want me on payroll? Fuck off with that railroading bullshit.
Gavin Taylor
>You will never swallow Kimball's Kimballs
I wonder if him being King of Heart implies he was never a scummy politician. Meh, probably just me looking too deep into things.
Camden Hernandez
I think it just means he's a leader. >Mr House >Ceasar >Kimball >The king
Owen Turner
If bethesda was a japanese company we wouldn't need mods to start with, the waifus would be built in
Hunter Evans
>railroading bullshit It actually makes a lot of sense if you think about it. Quite aside form being impressed by your skills NCR and Legion want one thing that only YOU can offer. House - Dead.
No one else is allowed into 38, so it make sense that they'd go above and beyond to get you working for them. They event start you off with a few primitive but necessary tasks before trusting you with the one they actually hire you for.
Ryder Howard
>NCR and Legion want one thing that only YOU can offer. House - Dead. Not him but, House himself mentions that the NCr and Legion could easily topple him with little effort if they weren't to busy fighting each other.
That is part of the whole reason he needs the chips, and his robot army, because he is defenseless without them.
Neither side needs you to kill House, and even House admits as much.
Nathaniel Barnes
>No Fallout 4 musclegirl waifus Makes me sad tee bee h
Juan Russell
Download Atomic Beauty or JB
Or is this just crossthread shitposting from TES
Sebastian Reyes
>Neither side needs you to kill House
He talks about this in a hypotetical sense, they both can deal with him if the other isn't there. Probleme is - it it there. And so long as the other side is there there is only one easy way of dealing with house, namely you.
After all both sides don't just want the dam, they want vegas itself.
And even if one of the sides wins the conflict w/o dealing with house it would be gretly weakened and unable to deal with him as easily.
Yes, both have resources to do this, but both also showed they they are lacking in ability to mobilise those resources.
They still need the player, is my point. And if you take objection to "need", than simply look at it this way - simple pardon to one criminal and a job offer to him in exchange for a chance to get something done that would otherwise require a major investment in resources.
Benjamin Bennett
>wanting to go back to NV Just fucking play NV. I'd be fine with returning to the West Coast, but not Nevada.
Jose Adams
Is there a better way to install mods that NMM for fo4 than manually. Even the ones that have fomod don't install textures/meshes half the time.
Hunter Bailey
> And so long as the other side is there there is only one easy way of dealing with house, namely you. Which isn't an argument becuase neither side needs to take out House before they take out each other.
House can easily be put off until the battle of the Dam is settled, when the winning faction can then begin to focus on securing the area in larger part.
This is just another flaw of New Vegas's writing. They put this illogical and unrealistic emphasis that every minor group just HAS to be dealt with before the NCR/Legion can take out each other, when actual military conquest of an area doesn't work like that, and when, in any real situation, those sort of groups would be dealt with after the main battle is over.
The only reason there is any pressure to do it before the battle is because the game ends, so Obsidian had to shoehorn in all these smaller things beforehand, when, realistically, they would have taken pace after the fact.
I honestly think that this is the reason all the major military actions are ignored during the main quest, Obsidian realized they had goofed with their narrative, and simply couldn't complete the game with post battle content, so they moved all the post battle content to pre-battle content to make sure you got the "Grand tour" of all their little snowflakes, even if it meant most real military preparation was ignored.
Cooper Garcia
I'm unironically a graphics fag though, user.
Justin Phillips
If you, personally, could become the de facto ruler of any faction from a Fallout game, BUT if you tried to change the ways of said faction, they'd kill you / impeach you / whatever, which would it be?
James Foster
>raiders >malnourished drug addicts And they were the TARGET AUDIENCE of a carefully designed and sold BUSINESS STRATEGY. I emphasize these two details because, while having forgotten the sore excuse for an arena can be forgiven due to it being so much cut content, the fact remains that in-universe, it was an arena. A place where raiders could go and fight against Tommy's prize fighter. Tommy would have been a poor businessman to not take care of his source of funds, but more importantly, he would likely be dead without her. As such, it can be taken for granted that Cait would at least have eaten well enough, despite drugs, that she would have a serious amount of muscle on her.
Because otherwise, after the first junkie with enough meat left on his bones and chems in his system managed to break her, Tommy would have been next. And the fighting zone is most certainly NOT a new thing.
James Sullivan
the only problem in returning to the west coast is Sawyer
id be glad if i could see Tim Cain's own west coast FO
Ayden Harris
Good old Salty Sawyer
Blake Sanchez
Institute Don't need to change their ways when they already want to help surface dwellers despite the actions of past leaders. Just have G1 and G2s provide sentry for settlements.
Gabriel Cook
>they take out each other
That's the thing, they can't take out each other and have enough resources leftover for house. Even if legion fails to take the dam, do you really think Ceasar or Lanius should the first die stop pressuring them? Do you think that after the battle at HD they'll still have enough resources and political will to deal with House and take the strip from him w/o opening themselves up to small scale Legion attacks? NCR is barely holding mojave as is and can't even deal with a bunch of raiders like fiends or powder gangers.
Legion would have to take the strip by force, and while some families might align with them house, kings and tops still have enough firepower to put up a fight.
I don't understand why you believe that house is a pushover. Sure he is weaker than the other 2 but he is plenty resilient.
Jason Roberts
>cant change anything Whats the point?
Brody Harris
>Don't need to change their ways when they already want to help surface dwellers Not him but no they don't.
In fact, they mention repeatedly they hope the surfacers die off.
Hunter Johnson
NCR Just keep that shit as corrupt as it is and blow every brahmin baron and water merchant from Washington to Nevada. Accept EVERY bribe, then retire and live like a king.
James Ortiz
Isn't that just the dude running security?
Tyler Rogers
That was just in there so that folks couldn't say, "Institute, but make them want to help everyone."
That clearly did not stop them, though.
Andrew Nguyen
The joke here is that's how the game plays out already. You become leader and you're still everyone's bitchboy in every single Bethesda game.
Joseph Rivera
Good graphics on FO4 maybe, but the art-design is absolutely disgusting.
Luis Hall
Institute without a doubt
>let head scientists do whatever >have hundreds of synth females made >knob slobbered on until the end of time
Ryan Gutierrez
>That's the thing, they can't take out each other and have enough resources leftover for house Except they can, and House even mentions that they do, which is why he needs his robot army, because its the only thing that can stand up to even a depleted NCr/Legion.
> Do you think that after the battle at HD they'll still have enough resources and political will to deal with House and take the strip from him w/o opening themselves up to small scale Legion attacks? They literally do in the game's endings anyways
Samuel Edwards
>Make a female synth that doesn't need to breathe through her nose so you can face fuck her any time you want
Austin Price
No, everyone mentions that the surface is doomed to die off in a few hundred years, and they are just basically buying time underground until they do.
Nicholas Davis
Sure, but if you played Nuka World it's basically like a preview of what NV would be like on the 'new' engine. It's amazing.
Oliver Moore
Christ user, I promised myself I wan't going to fap again
Chase Morris
> like a preview of what NV would be like on the 'new' engine Sure, if you remove all the fun from Nuka World you would end up with a pretty accurate representation of a Fallout 4: New Vegas
Jonathan Stewart
I don't remember anything like that outside of that one chick saying she wants to make it into a large underground city.
Then again that's usually when I get sick and tired of the bullshit and uninstall for a few months until my fetishes overpower me so I'll concede this to you.
Jaxon Nguyen
>fun from Nuka World
William Stewart
What do you mean what's the point? The point isn't to change anything, it's to join a faction you already like and how they operate.
Brayden Watson
What, you don't like literal shooting galleries with nothing to do but shoot more shit? What a fag.
Jack Rivera
>Areas with unique themes and environments with actually interesting raider gangs with personality