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Find the most fucked up crashes and post 'em here.

Here's the search form. In 'Mortality/Injury Severity', set it to Fatalities.

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>Aorta, thoracic, laceration; perforation; puncture, major; rupture; transection; segmental loss; blood loss >20% by volume, with hemorrhage confined to mediastinum [OIS IV, V]
>Cerebrum hematoma/hemorrhage subdural bilateral
>Lung contusion bilateral with or without hemo-/pneumothorax
>Cerebrum hematoma/hemorrhage subdural bilateral
user what the fuck

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Holy shit, I guess at least they all died before the fire consumed them.

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>brain stem transection
aka literal instant death

>not having a full roll cage, 7 point harness, race helmet, HANS device, window net, full race suit.
Its like you want to die hooninf you cucks

even that's not gonna save you in some of these accidents
this shit is genuinely chilling

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>be 13 yo
>riding in mom's Taurus
>she gets killed by some fat driving a mustang

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>V1 was traveling southbound at night on a two lane urban riverfront roadway with curves and rolling hills. V1 crested a hill to a flat, straight section of road, lost control, departed the road to the left, went up a slight embankment in a counterclockwise yaw, tripped over and rolled right, went up then down a steep rock embankment, then re-entered the roadway and came to rest on its wheels after having rolled a total of 8 quarter turns.
>The unrestrained V1 driver was ejected. V1 was equipped with dual front airbags and the airbags deployed. V1 was towed due to rollover and front damage.
>1999 MAZDA MIATA/MX-5

the absolute madman

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the driver stood literally 0 chance at all in this

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jesus fuck

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In medical circles, I believe that type of thing is categorized as "injuries sustained, incompatible with life."

>this totals the cutlass

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I'm surprised this is even a fatality much less a severity 7, whatever that means.

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>incompatible with life
jesus fuck

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that's not totaled user
a mailbox went through the windshield and it was replaced

Where are you guys getting the images from on the page in the OP? I've got just a plain text page unless I go to the expanded view that's 10 miles long.

Not through the windshield, through the open driver's window. From the description and images, best guess: the guy got his fucking spine snapped by a mailbox flying at his face at a 'high rate of speed.'

That's fucking awful.

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Also, the car is listed as a '72 Cutlass Supreme, but for '70 onwards, wasn't the hardtop Supreme only available with a notchback roofline instead of the fastback pictured there, shared by the F-85/Cutlass/S/442?

>well let's just search our own year and make and see what comes up
>one Sable, one Mountaineer, and ooh, a Marquis
>well let's just open it and
>HOLY FUCK

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Shit, forgot link
crashviewer.nhtsa.dot.gov/nass-cds/CaseForm.aspx?xsl=main.xsl&CaseID=701010362
>The front and left side of V1 contacted the right side of V2. V1 departed the roadway to the righ, striking a curb and began to rotate clockwise. The right side of V1 contacted small shrubs and then the right side contacted a utility pole. The utility pole broke and V1 came to rest on the right side of the roadway. V2 came to a stop in lane 2 of the east-west roadway-facing west. V1 was towed due to damage.
>The driver of V1 was reported to have fatal injuries. The three occupants of V2 were injured and transported to a hospital.

this shit's depressing

could you imagine how fucking traumatizing that would be?

>skid and hit a pole
>die as the driver on the opposite side of impact
>Restraints: Air Bag/ Manual-not used
EVERY FUCKING TIME, PUT YOUR SEAT BELTS ON YOU IDIOTS
The same page has this bit though:
>V1 lost control due to ice on roadway and the right side of V1 contacted a breakaway light pole on the right side median that divides the main road from the local road. It was dark but lighted and the roadway was straight and level, and the roadway conditions were icy and clear with no adverse conditions.
Do icy roads not count as adverse conditions now?

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>mfw all these deaths due to people not wearing their seatbelts
makes me feel good that I always wear mine
although at the same time, I've read a few where they died because of the seatbelt. Eh, it's not like they would've survived without it.

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I have so many questions and not enough answers
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>Driver: Restraints not listed, received minor injuries to chest/face (probably from airbag explosion), did not seek treatment for injuries
>Passenger: No restraints, facial fractures, died in hospital of unspecified injuries the next day
WEAR
YOUR
BELT

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>uncle refuses to wear a seatbelt despite shit like this happening
I TRIED TO WARN THEM

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w e w

Here's another fun fucked up Mercury for your viewing pleasure.
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Short form:
>18 yr old male driving car with a bunch of 17-20 year old buddies
>car ahead is making a left turn
>driver decides to try passing on the left
>oh wait there's a car there
>quick veer right again
>tag back end of the car making the turn, go into a spiral, corkscrew off the road and smack a pole
>occupants 5 and 8 dead on site from brain stem laceration
>8? yeah, they had eight people jammed in there, the people closest to the back doors died
>The driver of V1 left the scene without reporting injuries.
>THE DRIVER OF V1 LEFT THE SCENE WITHOUT REPORTING INJURIES.

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what the fuck

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Are panther bodies really that huge inside? Damn.

damn that blood on the rear seats tho

Oh my god what the fuck

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>Brain stem [hypothalamus, medulla, midbrain, pons], laceration Brain stem laceration
>Rib cage flail chest bilateral flail with or without lung contusion (OIS Grade V)
>Heart (myocardium), laceration, perforation, ventricular or atrial, with or without tamponade Heart (Myocardium) laceration perforation

blyat

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>Closed head injury/blunt head trauma/traumatic brain injury (Died Without Further Evaluation - No Autopsy)

How come no autopsy was done? I thought it was common procedure to perform one on a crash where the driver dies?

Holy FUCK.

The head of both front occupants got squished like a grape.

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Maybe there wasn't enough of the head left to perform an autospy

Makes sense, guess they had enough blood outside of the body to do an exam as well.

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Neck/skull fractures are a bitch, you can walk away fine and 1 hour later you collapse dead.

BOOMER DOWN

I REPEAT

BOOMER DOWN

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>11 occupants
>rated 9 severity
the fact that only like 3 people died is shocking
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>also rated 9 severity
>degloving
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paramedic shitter here.
During mass casualty events (those being defined as any event with the number of casualties being greater than the amount of forces/resources on the spot) we do triage which basically sorts every casualties into 4 possible categories (you hang a coloured plaque around their necks or other extremity if possible)
>green
basically meaning "can wait for indefinite period of time" usually people with minor injuries like broken arms, bruises, scrapes etc.
>yellow
less urgent, should receive help within the next 60 minutes.
>red
will die if not taken care of this very second
>black
ded, not big surprise.

This of course is a solution to a far greater problem that introduces another sets of problems.
One of them being people that sustained injuries that make them very unlikely to surivive regardless of your immediate help.
So they can literally stare in your eyes and beg you for help.
And the proper protocol is to assign them a color yellow (should receive help within the next 60 minutes) and walking away effectively sentencing them to possibly quite painful death because other severe casualties might have a bigger chance of surviving.

When I was at uni we had classes in the uniniversity's psychiatry ward and they had like 2 paramedics all fucking destroyed by ptsd after they worked on a mass-casualty train crash that happened few years prior.

And children are the fucking worst.
If you're unlucky to step about a mother clutching her few year old child both in the same condition (as in qualifying for immediate evacuation) your task is to help the mother and leave the child alone to die because they're extremely unlikely to survive since treatment of children is enormously harder than adults. And mother can have another child.

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sweet jesus

COULDN'T HANDLE THE FRESH

Yes. The front bench seat is ~52 inches from side to side (not counting the bit of extra space between the seat and the door), and the back seat is pretty similar but much more heavily cushioned. Both are meant to hold three people comfortably with three sets of spaced seatbelts, you can stuff four people on each pretty easily but it won't be nearly as comfortable and someone won't have a lap belt.

Holy God on a greenie.

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>V1 was traveling westbound and approaching an intersection. V2 was traveling northbound and approaching the same intersection. V3 was traveling southbound and approaching the same intersection. In the intersection, the front of V1 impacted the right side of V2. V2 deflected left and the front of V2 impacted the front of V3. V1 rolled over towards its left side as all three vehicles departed the road over the northwest corner. All occupants of all three vehicles were fatally injured.
This is V3. Sounds like east west had a stop sign they blew through. I can't get downloaded images to work so here's a screenshot.
Apparently this was a midlife crisis car.

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>car was SPLIT IN FUCKING HALF
>belted passenger: minor abrasions
>unbelted driver: ded

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wow first a nig shotguns himself and now this, getting the shit desensitized out of me.

glad im a seatbelt fag

Oops
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Being any sort of first-response medical personnel seems like a fantastic way to inevitably either drown your liver or eat a bullet within ten years.

Looking at that car I think the driver was foxed either way.

Common sense suggests that this would be the case but there was a study done in my country. The results were quite surprising. Paramedics and firefighters were the two occupational groups that are least likely (and by a wide margin) to voluntarily engage in risky behaviours like alcohol use, drug use, casual sex and extreme sports. On the opposite site of the spectrum - police personnel and physicians were by far the most represented in the "lets flush our health away lmaooo" group.

From my experience (also confirmed by the study) paramedics smoke a lot. Most likely because you can smoke a cigarette within the short break youre provided with while on the job. Firefighters obviously dont smoke since they can afford to piss away their physical fitness they work hard for but we dont run up and down the stairs all day.

EMS is in this retarded uncanny place where a job can be mindbogglingly monotonous and repetitive while at the same time crushing people's mental fitness from the sheer amount of stress dumped on you all at once.
There are people suffering from occupational burnout after the first 2-3 years.
It really takes a lot of fucking dedication to stay because it doesn't pay well but you have lots of responsibility on your shoulders to deal with. And it's a shit fucking job.

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Like being in corrections

This is what I have to look forward to:
>This is a 2 vehicle fatal crash involving one CDS and one NON-CDS vehicle traveling in opposite directions. V1, a 1986 Mazda B2000 pickup truck was traveling eastbound on a two lane, rural, dry, level, straight, hard packed dirt roadway in the #1 travel lane and V2, a 2004 Caterpillar farm tractor towing a "ripper" implement was traveling westbound on the same roadway. The front of V1 contacted the leading edge of the towed "ripper". V1 traveled under the implement and damage to the front, hood, and greenhouse areas of V1 occurred as a result of this contact. V1 came to final rest off the north side of the roadway facing in a northeasterly direction. After impact with V1, V2 drove to a controlled stop on the south shoulder.
>The unrestrained driver of V1 suffered fatal injuries and was pronounced dead at the scene.
>Closed head injury/blunt head trauma/traumatic brain injury NFS

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now that's just mean

>not having a type I ambulance with the cab seperate from the box so you can smoke two cigs at once while going 90 with cpr going on in the back

>Restraints: Manual/Not Used
>Fatality every time this comes up

Hmm...really makes you think

The shittiest part is that he probably saw it right before it hit.

>all pics ITT
boomers be like i know what i got

poor taste
nice trips

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>the slavbulance

Paramedics are the lords men and women, I swear to god. You guys have saved my wife about 4 times now from massive internal GI bleed and from shock caused by intestinal blockage.

>Decide to look up my make, model, and year
>One entry
>Front destroyed
>Jeep crossed over the center lane and killed driver
>Driver died despite airbags
>Car is the exact same color and interior as mine

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You are already dead.

LATE NIGHT
BRAKES LOCK
HEAR THE TYRES SQUEAL
RED LIGHT
CAN’T STOP
SO I SPIN THE WHEEL

>look up our 03 volkswagon jetta
>only 1 died
>most of the damages are just front bumpers coming off
>crashed my car this week
>only front bumper fell off

really makes me think...

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>Fly like an eagle and strike like a hawk at a "High rate of speed" straight into two oncoming cars
>Nobody in the Subaru was wearing a seatbelt except for one guy
Without seatbelt:
>CEREBRUM DIFFUSE AXONAL INJURY (WHITE MATTER SHEARING) (Critical)
>HEAD CRUSH (Maximum)
>BRAIN STEM INJURY INVOLVING HEMORRHAGE (Critical)
>SPLEEN LACERATION (Moderate)

With seatbelt:
>Skin Laceration (Minor)

Subaru fucking stronk

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Well, the occupant was a woman, plus, the car was a lot cleaner, mine's a garbage truck

"It's totally fucking fucked mate, big time"

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>snap oversteers and nearly kills himself and his passenger
Kek
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This guy died too
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kek, searched for rx8 wrecks since I own one and that the first fatality I found.

Mfw the nhtsa has only one fatality to report with my avalanche but everything it hits gets buttfucked

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>this is rated a 9 on the severity scale
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>Heart (Myocardium) Avulsion
>Injury Source: Steering wheel hub/spoke

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>HEAD CRUSH (Maximum)

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fucking christ

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I can picture this with perfect clarity from the dozens of times I have seen fatal crash aftermaths.

Holy fuck.

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Doesn't even look so bad yet the dude died in the hospital.

I'm never buying a Smart after this desu.

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Seat belts: Use them.

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Well, atleast they died enjoying the drive.

>HEAD CRUSH (Maximum)

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How will Deusenburg ever recover

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More like endlife crisis car

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>Vehicle 1 was traveling westbound in the third of a five lane (ten lanes overall), non-positive divided traffic way.

Vehicle 2 was traveling eastbound in the fifth lane of a five lane (ten lanes overall), non-positive divided traffic way.

V1 moved over the left lane line and departed the roadway to the left onto the grassy median that separated east and westbound traffic. V1 was airborne when it entered the fifth lane of westbound traffic. The front of V1 impacted the front of V2. V1 rotated CCW and rolled over to the right side and onto its top. V1 rotated counter clockwise while on its roof and slid off the roadway to the south. V 1 came to rest south of the eastbound traffic lanes, on the side of the roadway. V2 rotated clockwise to the south and kept moving eastward. V 2 came to rest on the shoulder of the eastbound traffic lanes in front of a concrete wall. V 2 did not have contact with the wall. Both vehicles were equipped with frontal airbags. The airbags in both vehicles deployed during the crash.

Both vehicles were towed from the scene. Metal pipes from V2 became airborne and intruded through V1 windshield striking both driver and passenger. The driver of V 1 was pronounced dead at the scene with severe head trauma. The right front passenger of V 1 was dead on arrival in ER with head trauma.

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That's some Final Destination shit right there

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>V1, a 1999 Chevrolet three-quarter-ton G-series van, was traveling northbound in the first lane of a two-lane, two-way roadway, approaching a T-intersection to turn left. V2, a 1973 Volkswagen Beetle, was traveling eastbound in the second lane of a five-lane, two-way roadway, approaching the same intersection on its right. As V1 made its turn, the front of V2 impacted the left side of V1. Both vehicles deflected northeast and came to rest in the roadway.

>Both vehicles were towed due to damage. The driver and right front passenger of V1 were uninjured. The driver of V2 sustained back and hip fractures and brain injury; she was transported to a trauma center, where she succumbed to her injuries.

Because some fucktard misjudged distance, a poor buggo and it's driver perished. What a waste...

Cars are a national health crisis

Our dependence and city planning around them are the causes of huge amounts of fatalities every year

Most people aren't smart or responsible enough to operate a car

All cities should model themselves after Boston, which as it happens, has over three times fewer traffic fatalities per 100,000 than the second lowest.

Cars are fine, but designing a city around them causes exactly this

No vehicle for sale on the general market has a valid reason to be going over 80mph. Highway speeds are already too high, lower them. Jail penalties for red light running and even aggressive driving.

I feel the same about guns, too, but they're far less dangerous statistically.

No, I'm not a leftist, I just go by statistics, which also pegs me as a racial realist

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Generally they use the term to describe shit like decapitation, bisection, incineration, crushed heads, visible decomp, etc.

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Only found one listing for my car (09-14 Outback), and it’s actually two of them fucking tag-teaming a Prius.
Somebody ran a light or sign clearly and one hit it on the side in an intersection, and then it crossed the centerline and went head-on into the other one which was in the opposite turn lane
Only the Prius driver died, the Outback driver has a list of like 24 injuries with a two-week hospital stay and literally all it says for the Prius driver is basically “head, all over. Time to death 0 hours”

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Also the Prius driver was fucking cruising, like 75 in a 50.
I wish the website listed what state it happened in.

>Dead because some fuck who blew .09 clearly ran a light

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Damn, you found a way to put all the faggiest viewpoints into one post. Good bait.

>V1 was traveling northbound approaching an intersection when, for unknown reasons, it departed the east side of the roadway in a clockwise rotation. While off the roadway, V1's left side contacted a wooden utility pole. The driver of V1 was then fully ejected through the driver's side door opening. V1 continued to rotate in a clockwise direction as it crossed the width of the adjacent roadway. V1's right side then contacted a stop sign post and a chain link fence. V1's right side then contacted the rear of V2, which was parked behind the fenced area. V1 rotated counter-clockwise until it arrived at final rest on the right side of V2, facing southeast. V1 experienced a fire while at final rest.

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>V2 hits a turning school bus (V1) head on
>bus crushes V3, occupant is a fat Burger
>occupant isn't even that hurt but suffocates to death because he's overweight
You can barely see V3 under the school bus in this picture

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>search for my car
>no fatal accidents

VOLVO LIFE

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>Brain stem laceration (Maximum) Hood edge
>3rd passenger of the Ford literally got killed by shitty Ford construction flying around in the vehicle and hitting him in the head

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Holy shit.

It's always an Altima lmao.

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>HEAD CRUSH (Maximum)
good lord

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Oh, interesting, I'll search my car.
>S2000
5 fatal accidents, driver loses control of the car in every single example. 2 have passengers.
Some memorable quotes from 4 of the incidents
>The vehicle started to roll to the right and went airborne
>Impacted a wooden utility pole shearing it completely
>Left side of Vehicle 1 was struck by the front of Vehicle 3, a heavy truck (Peterbilt)
>Driver and passenger were transported to the hospital. The passenger expired later at the hospital (Driver survived, minor injuries, has to live with it.)
Well, that was sobering...

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