Why hasn't europe built a competitor to the 240 SX back then?
or to the whole asian cars that were like that in general? (cheap, rwd, lightweight) like the Miata, silvia?
I mean I would have asked why no continent built a car like this, but we all know american cars wouldn't be able to comepte anyways to these criterias, so lol??
>tl;dr why is there no competition to the 240SX that isn't from asia
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um the bmw 318ti was available then
and they have the 1/2 series
>lightweight
>318ti
>powerful
also couldn't drift thanks to its retarded short wheelbase. It would have basically been better off as FWD in this state.
92' 240sx was $14,785
92' 318is was $23,600
92' Mustang GT was $20,199
92' Miata was $14,800
They both weigh 2,700lbs retard.
>(cheap, rwd, lightweight)
Here you go
>little to no aftermarket
>ugly as hell
>not fun to drive.
what is it like having shit taste?
>MR
>Moving goalposts
how am I moving goal posts if I'm not OP to begin with. I'm a different user. I'm just telling you how it is. Pontiac Fiero GT's aren't desirable at all and if they were, well then they would be!
I never said the fiero was desirable.
OP asked why America/Europe didn't make any lightweight, cheap, rwd cars. I was simply proving that they did. Why is that so hard to understand?
you didn't say powerful in the OP
>I never said the fiero was desirable.
yeah but you suggested it to OP, as if anyone wants that terrible car.
i think it was implied that you compare cars that are the same power, otherwise you could just say "hurr durr a smart is lightweight and RWD" but no one in its right mind would compare a 240 to a smart car
you're talking about a miata, which is down 20 horsepower to a 318 118 vs 138
>ugly
What's it like having shit taste
What if I told you that clean Silvias are overpriced these days and not worth the money if you wanted to buy in today's market?
Because Europe has something that's better in pretty much every way.
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>pigfat
>3 meters wide
>exepenisve as fuck
>ugly
how is it better?
it's a good thing they're overpriced or they'd all become drift cars
>also couldn't drift thanks to its retarded short wheelbase
it's the same wheelbase as a non-compact E36 you retard
I wish I could delete dr*ft from history.
>4 doors sedan
>dr*ft mongrel
>pigfat
Irrelevant
>3 meters wide
Naturally, if you're not comparing it to your tiny chink-mobiles
>expensive as fuck
Poorfag
>ugly
Ricer baby.
>OP states cheap, rwd, lightweight
>>pigfat
>Irrelevant
meters wide
>Naturally, if you're not comparing it to your tiny chink-mobiles
ok?? maybe learn to read stupid kraut lol
Which is exactly why i said it was better in every way, zipperhead.
that doesn't even make sense you stupid germ hahaaa
Euro SX was Calibra like in cheap sporty shitbox, it was insanely popular but no rwd, only fwd and 4x4.
>implying GM has no aftermarket
>subjective taste
>later models had lotus suspension and four-wheel discs
what's it like being retarded? Fieros are a strange car, but to pretend they can't be fun is inane
but the Pontiac Fiero is ugly and undesirable for the most part. Its the white trash MR2, which is an already a poor mans Boxster/Cayman.
>Overpriced
>yet people are buying them like hot cakes.
Do you know how supply and demand works?
>lotus suspension and four wheel disccs
PHWOAH dude. And yet it still isn't desirable. GM has always been garabge. Stop trying to save face.
stickers and fucked hood ruin it
Euro SX
>front wheel drive
you know nothing about cars
>le FWD boogeyman
this image depressed me
its because you have terrible taste and no style at all.
>also couldn't drift thanks to its retarded short wheelbase
the 3 series compact had exactly the same wheelbase as the regular 3 series you fucking retard, and a longer one than a s13 at that
>not getting the 4WD tarbo
BMW but only if stripped out and tuned or M.
Honestly stock ones are slow as fuck, overweight and turn like boats, but they are cheap, abundant, rwd and nobody but fanboys really give fuck about them so its the ideal european entry level tuner
opel omega
ford sierra
whatever bimmer you find on used car lot for triple digits
this BMWs are THE dirt cheap disposable drift cars, nobody uses s chassis, its retreated to be jap classic rarity
>>opel omega
pigfat GM barge with no power
>Ford from the 80s
all rusted away now
>BMW
more like BMuslimW am i right lol, you can only find then in the junkyard
>nobody uses s chassis
Sounds like you have never been to a grass roots drift event in the US ever. While E36's are starting to become more popular. S-chassis are still in use by most people.
s chassis' aren't as rare as you think. You must just live in a flyover state.
foxbody mustang
>cheap
>rwd
>huge aftermarket
>two doors
>makes a good drift missle
>easy to engine swap
s chassis aren't rare unless you live in euroland where anything pre 2000 and Japanese is rare
t. muhammad
i'm catholic you knee grow
enjoy no guns, no cars, no women and no summer lol
>why didn't Europe bother competing in a shitty market segment only a few models can fit in while they were making shitloads of bucks selling overpriced 'premium' sedans all over the world
I'm pretty sure he's a Euro, since he mentions E36s being the drift car of choice.
nice sensemaking eurofag
I guess. It's just that people on Veeky Forums don't seem to have a clue about what 99% of the normies care about when they buy a car, and it sure as hell isn't 'rwd' and 'lightweight'
yeah but there are also brands who make cars for enthusiasts, for example Alpine, Alpha Romo, and the Dodge SRT series....
Does the E46 rear have the same sheeting off the unibody issue that the E36 does?
*sheering
are you still shitposting about your """superior""" taste with the only 10 images you have saved? That's why nobody likes people who are into S-chassis, because almost all are complete fuckheads. Congratulations.
You mean the cracking subframe mounting points? That was only the E46 afaik, not the E36.
No, the E36 rear had an issue as well
Shit, Richard Hammond's E36 in the Top Gear challenge for best affordable Euro sports sedan vs the Ford Sierra and the Cosworth E190
The E36 M3 was inspected by zee Germans and they said it failed because the rear was rotting out and he was scared shitless when he had to drive it hard in the challenge
>10 images.
you sound talk a cuck
that's even more sad, just putting Kouki aero on it and Ganador mirrors and hood doesn't make it super beautiful. Just because it's from Japan, literally a Weeb
I'm surprised someone on Veeky Forums know's about Ganador mirrors.
That being said as much as I like OEM+ cars like the one you posted, I love this style as well.
>Just because it's from Japan, literally a Weeb
I like the kouki aero and ganador mirrors because it makes the car look more aggressive. Same with the Type X kit.
>Unironically liking Nissan
Type X *is* Kouki Aero, so is Type S and Type G
spoken like a true gm fangirl
>I'm surprised someone on Veeky Forums know's about Ganador mirrors
Literally everyone knows about ganadors
>Paying 75k for an automatic Renault
wew
YOU SHALL NOT PASS
Nissan is by far my favorite car brand and the S-Chassis, especially the S13, is my favorite and my dream car at the same time, but I fucking hate what Nissan has been for the last 15, soon 20 years.
t. different fag
yeah and I specifically like the Type X aero.
No. not "everyone"
all convertible 240sx's came automatic. just an FYI
Yes I am aware of the verts being autos. It's not impossible to convert one to manual tho. I just posted it because it's beautiful.
>Yes I am aware of the verts being autos. It's not impossible to convert one to manual tho.
youre right. a friend of mine just converted her vert to manual with the help of her boyfriend. finding the parts is ezpz assuming you aren't in bumfuck america.
type X aero = Type G + wing = Type S + sideskirts
why is the pigfat 370+z the only thing nissan will make?? nobody likes it yet they insist on pumping them out
imo the 350 and G35 was the only alright thing coming out of Renault Nissan and the interior sucked in both cars
>swap in a shitty turbo i4
>hood is fucked
>swap an objectively better v8
>hood closes perfectly
top looks better
you nan gave me top last night. faggot.
shut your yakubian ass up.
>trash i4 gets blown the fuck out
>he resorts to ad hominem
inb4
>b-b-b-b-but shitty 4 bangers add muh STYLE
bonus: even 6 cylinder engines don't fuck the hood as much as that coveted lawnmower engine
When will you learn
>RWD
>Cheap
4 door wagon>2 door coupe
Side note before you complain about weight base models were around 2800lbs
Also enjoy your crash in the s13 ill go ram into a brick wall
Nigs, any of the V6 rwd Alfas is a quicker car than the 240 and even the 90 sedan is lighter than a 240. That's just one manufacturer.
Okay, just to recap
>Why hasn't europe built a competitor to the 240 SX back then?
and then the guy mostly focuses on wanting to drift, a form of driving that wasn't popularized until about 10 years after the 240sx went out of production.
In short, OP is a faggot.
>some drivable cuckshed is comparable to that japanese classic
Are you a "refugee"?
Ford Sierra
>yurop
>no women
literally delusional
>classic
>not a weeb
Choose one
ah yes, the famous european "women"
I wish we wouldn't have saved you dumb fucks back in 1945
>he doesn't drift in a s2k
git gud
t. dumb and fat americuck
women in europe are way hotter than american women, this is a fact
you'd know this if you could afford to leave your basement
It’s probably because they don’t mix races as much or the food they eat
>this is a fact
Ah yes, fake news.
There's no european celebrity that is hot, while there are a lot of hot famous americans.
Stay jealous, maybe some Angela let's you raise Mohameds child.
>racemixing is bad
>amerifats are unironically this delusional
lol
You're the one being delusional, but I didn't expect anything else from you eruropoors, so why do I even bother wasting my time on some retarded wannabe commie namefag.
Are you implying it's not? What are you, stupid?
I am neither yuropean nor a communist
sperg more delusional fatass
>Are you implying it's not? What are you, stupid?
Communists, everybody.