The GT would be perfection if Ford did what everyone wanted them to do and put a coyote in it
ITT: cars that are almost perfect but have one glaring flaw
Henry Robinson
Landon Lewis
>put a coyote in it
>so it would make less power
>so it wouldn't have won GTLM
>so it wouldn't have accomplished the one thing it was built to do from the very beginning
Luke Clark
this
OP can I see your engineering degree?
Christian Morgan
Maybe not a coyote specifically, but a V8
Noah Lee
>a twin turbo V8 with more displacement would make less power than a twin turbo V6
Brayden Flores
A twin turbo Coyote wouldn't have met GTLM regulations you dimwit
Lincoln Gutierrez
So, ignore motorsports then. GTLM is for cucks. Aston martin wanted to race the Valkyrie in the Prototype class but they don't allow road-based cars and he can't race it in the GTLM class because his 6 L V12 would be above displacement limits and he doesn't want to cuck his car. we are all in agreement that class wins aren't wins anyway.
Tyler Johnson
>ignore what made the GT40 legendary
>for the GT40's 50th anniversary special
Come the fuck on
Landon Gomez
>the GT40's 50th anniversary special
The 50th anniversary of its first Le Mans win, rather
Zachary Kelly
Then put a Bara in it. Ford literally had 3 engines that were better, the Bara, Coyote and the Voodoo, but they still chose to put a boosted ancient Mazda block into their super-advanced custom chassis
Andrew King
Barra is a packaging nightmare and exceeds GTLM's displacement restrictions too
The EcoBoost V6 was their best option and it showed
Charles Torres
The GT40 was made legendary because it got an Overall win (which is what Aston Martin wants as well) and it dominated so hard it forced regulation changes where as this new one happily obeys regulation changes instead of forcing them out of domination and is tucked under classes with the corvette, 911 and a mid-tier Ferrari all of which it would've been placed above when it started racing in the 60s. you can't really say that poor attempt at imitating the original's achievements and not coming within light-years is worth a damn can you?
Jeremiah Barnes
>a twin turbo V8 with more displacement would make less power than a twin turbo V6
>Boostlet logic
>having to pretzel your logic to believe you don't drive a displacelet
Connor Perez
>putting an iron block boat anchor square peg in a round hole racing car
Landon Gonzalez
>Putting a v6 in a race car
Alexander Nelson
user please don't do this
You're actually using your brain and common sense, something that Ford fans don't have
please don't waste your energy.
William Flores
There was no mention anywhere of a TT coyote motor. A "coyote" sure, but no one wrote that, and no one can read your precious little mind.
Blake Wilson
boy
Benjamin Allen
>Formula-bans other options so you have no choice-One
Mason Taylor
>formula-960 hp-one
Gabriel Walker
>be australian
>be ignorant
Robert Gonzalez
6 cylinders are lighter and make just as much power
Aaron Nelson
>A twin turbo Coyote wouldn't have met GTLM regulations you dimwit
Explain.
Dylan Long
Displacement limit for turbo engines is 4.0l, NA engines can go up to 5.5l
Joshua Lee
why so huge?
Luis Sanders
Has to be under 4000cc
An NA coyote would have been fine.
Jacob Powell
In stuff like F1 in which engines don't need to last long so you can go nuts on boost, smaller displacement engines are superior due to saving weight and space.
Lincoln Davis
>don't need to last long
wrong.
you get 4 engines for the season.
3 for 2018 season.
that's 7 races per engine.
Ryder Adams
shoulda been an LMP1 to compete to actually win le mans
>a pure bred race car competing against gussied up road cars with a power train lifted from a prototype race car
Jacob Walker
Still short compared to a road car.
For F1 standards they really are running in enduro mode though.
Matthew Powell
ok, but there are indestructible 6 cylinders.
Liam Hughes
The Hyper car AMG Project one is going to make less power than the naturally aspirated V12 Aston Martin Valkyrie despite having electric motors to help make the power its supposed to even have.
V10/V12 Era of F1 in the 2000s were the fastest F1 and F1 cars are only getting faster now because the technology gap has gotten big enough and since we'll never know how fast those V10s/V12s would be given the same hybrid and technological treatment (because banned) V6s will have to take all the lap records whilst being faced with no alternatives.
Hunter Baker
>is going to
concept car.
lets look at what is true right now.
still less power than a built 2jz
Oliver Morgan
Newey on the decision for the V12:
>“I spent a lot of time looking at different power units,” he said. “The two obvious choices were a V-6—either single- or twin-turbo—or a high-revving naturally aspirated V-12. In the end I came to the conclusion it should be the V-12 because of what that allowed you to do in terms of structural mounting, because it’s a very well-balanced engine with good NVH characteristics.
>“And with a turbo you need intercoolers, so by the time you’ve put those and the turbos on it, the weight starts to become fairly similar, and unless you’ve got an e-turbo you’ve got response problems. So I felt that technically the V-12 was marginally superior, but it was a close call. And, of course, emotionally as well.”
But yeah, a 6.5L V12 with KERS beats a 1.6L V6T with a MGU-K, MGU-H and two front electric motors in power, whilst being much lighter and having a smaller battery and giving more room for aero trickery.
The one advantage the Project One has is low speed traction/acceleration due to AWD.
In all other performance aspects, the Valkyrie is superior.
The Project one is a much nicer DD, so that is a decent advantage for the Chiron type of buyer.
Jace Wright
>take coyote
>destroke to meet displacement regulations
>???
Juan Adams
>take block that was made for 5+ liters of displacement
>destroke
>end up with shitloads of unnecessary size and weight
Juan Murphy
Also sustained output is interesting, as both will not be able to sustain 100% power all the time due to battery drain, but the Valkyrie has more ICE power, which means the other advantage of the Project One is fuel efficiency if they were to race in WEC style, the Project One could manage it's output to save much more fuel while having decent performance, leading to far fewer pitstops, which would help balance the difference.
Luis Long
They wanted to stay true as possible to the original win, in a similar class.
Brody Jones
Actually the displacement of the roadcar is irrelevant. The rules allow displacement to be adjusted for the racecars as is the case for BMW, Ferrari, and Corvette.
Blake Morales
the block more or less started off as being for 4.6l,and if ford really wanted to there would be nothing stopping them from shaving off a bit of the deck to lower the weight
Jordan Parker
>end up with shitloads of unnecessary size and weight
Yet you have no problem with it not being OHV?
Dominic Reyes
>911
its a fucking beetle
Evan Sanders
A GT P1 car would need to shave off ~415kg and add a massive amount of mechanical grip as well as downforce. Not possible
Logan White
A 1000hp 2jz isn't going to last even 50k km before a rebuild though.
Samuel Gonzalez
wasn't the original a lola with an American racing engine?
John Price
They'd be good if they lost the plane engine.